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I find your wording problematic and agenda driven. damookster Send a noteboard - 07/03/2017 11:58:03 PM

Since I have no reason to question or doubt your initial claim to desire nothing more than honest debate without rancor, let's view my reply as constructive criticism to help you better achieve your stated goal.

"Indulge" was such a choice. According to Merriam-Webster, indulge implies excessive compliance and weakness in gratifying another's or one's own desires. Making use of that word is obviously editorial in nature. Concede would have been a more neutral choice, had you wished to be so.

"with other mental health issues we step in and stop their behavior for their own good"

Really? How so? Force-fed medication? Let me clue you in on something. Very few adults receive involuntary commitment for mental health issues. Treatment plans are voluntary in all but the most dangerous cases.

"and we do not play along"
Another good one. Supporting the wishes of the transgender person is "playing along." Honest debate without rancor?

Here's a big one. "Interfere." So let me get this straight. When I of my own free will sought treatment for my lifelong depression, and again of my own free will accepted the medication the doctor prescribed, he was "interfering" with my mental health issue? My late wife's treatment for bipolar disorder was also interference? Perhaps intervene would have been a better choice? Ah but only if you didn't want your slant to show.

Lastly equating doing what makes you happy over the course of your life with a hedonistic pursuit of immediate happiness is a poor argument at best and disingenuous at worst.

Mook

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Self-Identification vs. Mental Health Issue *trigger warning* Jeordam - 06/03/2017 08:53:17 PM 1037 Views
I have to say I'm very confused about what your question is... and I don't think it's just me. Legolas - 07/03/2017 12:04:27 AM 762 Views
Yes, I'm talking about... Jeordam - 07/03/2017 05:03:18 PM 781 Views
Okay, clear. Legolas - 07/03/2017 06:50:00 PM 768 Views
<3 *NM* nossy - 07/03/2017 06:57:23 PM 379 Views
Mind over Matter? Jeordam - 07/03/2017 09:06:53 PM 745 Views
Mind over body might've been more apt. I believe I did answer your question actually. Legolas - 07/03/2017 10:41:01 PM 838 Views
Let's be clear.... Jeordam - 07/03/2017 11:17:02 PM 716 Views
By all means. Legolas - 07/03/2017 11:58:41 PM 749 Views
Well that's the crux of the topic isn't it.... Jeordam - 08/03/2017 05:48:50 PM 656 Views
That takes us right back to body vs mind, doesn't it? Legolas - 08/03/2017 07:13:32 PM 711 Views
Well that would be the difference... Jeordam - 08/03/2017 08:54:59 PM 762 Views
So do tell me what in fact the purpose of our discussion is, then? Legolas - 08/03/2017 09:40:09 PM 707 Views
What can I possibly say? Jeordam - 09/03/2017 05:45:54 PM 715 Views
There's a distinction to be made with eating disorders. Ghavrel - 08/03/2017 08:31:08 PM 713 Views
That brings us all the way back around.... Jeordam - 08/03/2017 09:05:40 PM 763 Views
Because nossy - 08/03/2017 09:30:37 PM 761 Views
Two things... Jeordam - 09/03/2017 05:50:32 PM 704 Views
you're missing a rather obvious difference, aren't you? damookster - 08/03/2017 09:50:09 PM 734 Views
Yeah, Snoop was just saying the same. nossy - 08/03/2017 10:14:41 PM 768 Views
Well now we are bridging a rather big gap.... Jeordam - 09/03/2017 07:12:26 PM 739 Views
Re: Well now we are bridging a rather big gap.... nossy - 09/03/2017 08:52:30 PM 832 Views
So two conversations now..... Jeordam - 09/03/2017 09:39:55 PM 721 Views
Re: So two conversations now..... nossy - 09/03/2017 10:23:39 PM 710 Views
And this is what you're overlooking.... Jeordam - 09/03/2017 10:47:47 PM 748 Views
I could be wrong nossy - 09/03/2017 11:15:22 PM 717 Views
Sex vs Gender Jeordam - 09/03/2017 11:33:54 PM 700 Views
So this is an interesting point..... Jeordam - 09/03/2017 05:56:12 PM 740 Views
Sure about that? damookster - 09/03/2017 08:53:14 PM 707 Views
It's a mater of persepctive.... Jeordam - 09/03/2017 09:12:09 PM 725 Views
wrong damookster - 09/03/2017 09:41:53 PM 652 Views
Sure. Jeordam - 09/03/2017 09:57:48 PM 766 Views
sure, could be damookster - 09/03/2017 11:56:31 PM 677 Views
I feel like this has been said several times already, in several ways Sareitha Sedai - 10/03/2017 04:10:27 PM 716 Views
It has been said, and I understand what is being said... Jeordam - 10/03/2017 06:01:06 PM 726 Views
Re: It has been said, and I understand what is being said... Sareitha Sedai - 10/03/2017 07:58:57 PM 713 Views
I find your wording problematic and agenda driven. damookster - 07/03/2017 11:58:03 PM 729 Views
I appolozie if I offended Jeordam - 08/03/2017 06:18:41 PM 719 Views
no worries damookster - 08/03/2017 06:36:10 PM 735 Views
It always goes from it doesn't hurt anyone to the whole world has to change accommodate me *NM* random thoughts - 10/03/2017 02:46:38 AM 435 Views
That's true - doesn't change the issue as such but certainly there's intolerance on that side too. *NM* Legolas - 10/03/2017 07:45:43 AM 370 Views
Both extremes are dangerous random thoughts - 10/03/2017 12:59:41 PM 771 Views
Take your trigger warnings back to tumblr where they belong ßelals Girl - 07/03/2017 12:21:05 PM 858 Views
*ha* Jeordam - 07/03/2017 05:04:10 PM 757 Views
I self-identify as a deity, so I need you to use My preferred pronouns in reference to Myself Cannoli - 07/03/2017 05:15:56 PM 674 Views
So I could self-identify aerocontrols - 08/03/2017 12:36:39 AM 683 Views
I read through this thread. kazetaran - 10/03/2017 12:44:03 AM 1017 Views
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