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Lenin. A monster. The Shrike Send a noteboard - 14/03/2017 12:55:18 PM

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All but the most rabid and delusional fanatics recognize Stalin for the monster he was, but Lenin is generally sidelined in the discussion. Which is a shame, really, because I think he's much more interesting (and sympathetic, frankly, though I don't know much about Russian history at all).

And do you know any good books on the revolution and USSR in general?


A monster who founded a totalitarian regime. I am no fan of Lenin. At all. The Red Terror occurred under Lenin. .

If you want to know about the Revolution then you need to go further back in time to understand Russia itself. But Orlando Figes' A People's Tragedy is a good place to begin for the revolution. Otherwise some general histories of Russia itself might not be bad. For more histories of the Soviet Union, I would ask Tom. He is an expert and extremely well read on the subject. I actually have a love/hate relationship with Russian/Soviet history. I prefer German history. Soviet history is too depressing especially since it affected my family in many negative ways.

Stalin was a monster but I wonder what the Soviet Union would have been like without him. Would they have been as ready for the Germans without his emphasis on massive industrialization? Would Germany have thus won WWII by quickly knocking out the Soviet Union and then focusing on the buildup of their navy to take out the UK? More what ifs.

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The February Revolution and Kerensky’s Missed Opportunity - 13/03/2017 09:37:00 PM 970 Views
Fascinating stuff - 13/03/2017 10:52:58 PM 557 Views
Who knows? It could have been worse off. - 13/03/2017 11:37:54 PM 650 Views
What's your opinion on Lenin? - 14/03/2017 02:06:59 AM 601 Views
Lenin. A monster. - 14/03/2017 12:55:18 PM 623 Views
Thanks. I'll ask him too. *NM* - 14/03/2017 03:01:36 PM 301 Views
Lenin, Stalin and Trotsky were all bloodthirsty mass murderers. - 14/03/2017 08:59:06 PM 698 Views
That's fascinating. But give me a book recommendation! - 14/03/2017 09:15:57 PM 554 Views
Start with a general history of Russia - 14/03/2017 10:17:22 PM 699 Views
Excellent. Thank you. It's next on the list. - 15/03/2017 02:11:14 AM 649 Views
Russian history is as depressing as they come. - 15/03/2017 12:08:15 PM 621 Views
Read Figes first, I suppose. - 14/03/2017 10:55:23 PM 591 Views
Thanks, Tom. I've been putting off reading good literature because of my unfamiliarity with Russia. *NM* - 15/03/2017 02:12:10 AM 296 Views
Which books have you put off reading? *NM* - 15/03/2017 12:05:32 PM 282 Views
DEMONS and THE BROTHERS KARAMAZOV are the big two. - 15/03/2017 02:58:13 PM 578 Views
You don't necessarily need to know the history. - 15/03/2017 03:15:38 PM 613 Views
I'm always afraid I'm missing something critical, though! - 15/03/2017 03:50:59 PM 572 Views
Annotations are amazing. My eBook version of War and Peace was the same. - 15/03/2017 04:03:59 PM 594 Views
My High School English teacher neglected Russian literature. - 16/03/2017 01:46:29 AM 563 Views
Hmmmm. - 16/03/2017 01:18:14 PM 584 Views
Tolstoy was a reprehensible human being - 15/03/2017 04:02:52 PM 563 Views
I had no idea. I was under the impression he was deeply devout. - 16/03/2017 01:47:43 AM 588 Views
Here's one example: - 16/03/2017 02:06:45 AM 586 Views
Good lord. The man sounds deranged. But that's fascinating! Is there a good biography on him? *NM* - 16/03/2017 07:50:10 AM 285 Views
Pavel Basinsky's bio is best - 16/03/2017 02:46:47 PM 783 Views
Getting it now. Thanks. *NM* - 16/03/2017 11:06:25 PM 284 Views
For what it's worth, I read Lenin & Trotsky as genuine idealists, while Stalin as just a thug - 15/03/2017 11:16:36 AM 662 Views
I think that's entirely incorrect. - 15/03/2017 04:00:54 PM 668 Views
I didn't mean stupid or brutish, I meant more like a mafia don than a statesman - 16/03/2017 12:18:34 PM 551 Views
Well if you want to completely redefine the phrase "just a thug", perhaps you're right - 16/03/2017 02:43:38 PM 570 Views
Good point - 16/03/2017 09:52:29 PM 709 Views
I hear what you're saying, but... - 16/03/2017 11:53:19 PM 593 Views
Attempt at clarification - 17/03/2017 12:55:03 AM 686 Views
Hehehe..."Fuck off" - 19/03/2017 05:23:49 PM 631 Views
Seems kind of nonsensical - 14/03/2017 01:33:49 AM 683 Views
Good reply. - 14/03/2017 12:57:47 PM 666 Views
They weren't really wrong - 14/03/2017 01:30:07 PM 685 Views
I do enjoy historical "what if" situations. - 14/03/2017 01:47:27 AM 568 Views
Hi there. - 14/03/2017 01:02:44 PM 545 Views
I still think democracy among those insidiously intrusive Western values Russia resists so fiercely - 14/03/2017 02:37:39 PM 679 Views
Is it your persistant anti-Russia bias that makes you so dogmatic? - 14/03/2017 02:51:23 PM 576 Views
I have no problem with Russia, only its government - 14/03/2017 03:07:14 PM 700 Views
Really? - 14/03/2017 03:15:10 PM 597 Views
What a terrible article - 14/03/2017 08:04:50 PM 569 Views
I thought you would think this way. - 15/03/2017 12:04:57 PM 651 Views
I can't decide what I think about Evans - 15/03/2017 04:10:05 PM 569 Views

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