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Lenin. A monster. The Shrike Send a noteboard - 14/03/2017 12:55:18 PM

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All but the most rabid and delusional fanatics recognize Stalin for the monster he was, but Lenin is generally sidelined in the discussion. Which is a shame, really, because I think he's much more interesting (and sympathetic, frankly, though I don't know much about Russian history at all).

And do you know any good books on the revolution and USSR in general?


A monster who founded a totalitarian regime. I am no fan of Lenin. At all. The Red Terror occurred under Lenin. .

If you want to know about the Revolution then you need to go further back in time to understand Russia itself. But Orlando Figes' A People's Tragedy is a good place to begin for the revolution. Otherwise some general histories of Russia itself might not be bad. For more histories of the Soviet Union, I would ask Tom. He is an expert and extremely well read on the subject. I actually have a love/hate relationship with Russian/Soviet history. I prefer German history. Soviet history is too depressing especially since it affected my family in many negative ways.

Stalin was a monster but I wonder what the Soviet Union would have been like without him. Would they have been as ready for the Germans without his emphasis on massive industrialization? Would Germany have thus won WWII by quickly knocking out the Soviet Union and then focusing on the buildup of their navy to take out the UK? More what ifs.

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The February Revolution and Kerensky’s Missed Opportunity - 13/03/2017 09:37:00 PM 678 Views
Fascinating stuff - 13/03/2017 10:52:58 PM 320 Views
Who knows? It could have been worse off. - 13/03/2017 11:37:54 PM 413 Views
What's your opinion on Lenin? - 14/03/2017 02:06:59 AM 356 Views
Lenin. A monster. - 14/03/2017 12:55:18 PM 387 Views
Thanks. I'll ask him too. *NM* - 14/03/2017 03:01:36 PM 186 Views
Lenin, Stalin and Trotsky were all bloodthirsty mass murderers. - 14/03/2017 08:59:06 PM 409 Views
That's fascinating. But give me a book recommendation! - 14/03/2017 09:15:57 PM 322 Views
Start with a general history of Russia - 14/03/2017 10:17:22 PM 433 Views
Excellent. Thank you. It's next on the list. - 15/03/2017 02:11:14 AM 390 Views
Russian history is as depressing as they come. - 15/03/2017 12:08:15 PM 393 Views
Read Figes first, I suppose. - 14/03/2017 10:55:23 PM 347 Views
Thanks, Tom. I've been putting off reading good literature because of my unfamiliarity with Russia. *NM* - 15/03/2017 02:12:10 AM 177 Views
Which books have you put off reading? *NM* - 15/03/2017 12:05:32 PM 164 Views
DEMONS and THE BROTHERS KARAMAZOV are the big two. - 15/03/2017 02:58:13 PM 330 Views
You don't necessarily need to know the history. - 15/03/2017 03:15:38 PM 368 Views
I'm always afraid I'm missing something critical, though! - 15/03/2017 03:50:59 PM 320 Views
Annotations are amazing. My eBook version of War and Peace was the same. - 15/03/2017 04:03:59 PM 340 Views
My High School English teacher neglected Russian literature. - 16/03/2017 01:46:29 AM 300 Views
Hmmmm. - 16/03/2017 01:18:14 PM 335 Views
Tolstoy was a reprehensible human being - 15/03/2017 04:02:52 PM 321 Views
I had no idea. I was under the impression he was deeply devout. - 16/03/2017 01:47:43 AM 339 Views
Here's one example: - 16/03/2017 02:06:45 AM 333 Views
Good lord. The man sounds deranged. But that's fascinating! Is there a good biography on him? *NM* - 16/03/2017 07:50:10 AM 166 Views
Pavel Basinsky's bio is best - 16/03/2017 02:46:47 PM 486 Views
Getting it now. Thanks. *NM* - 16/03/2017 11:06:25 PM 169 Views
For what it's worth, I read Lenin & Trotsky as genuine idealists, while Stalin as just a thug - 15/03/2017 11:16:36 AM 376 Views
I think that's entirely incorrect. - 15/03/2017 04:00:54 PM 377 Views
I didn't mean stupid or brutish, I meant more like a mafia don than a statesman - 16/03/2017 12:18:34 PM 285 Views
Well if you want to completely redefine the phrase "just a thug", perhaps you're right - 16/03/2017 02:43:38 PM 328 Views
Good point - 16/03/2017 09:52:29 PM 414 Views
I hear what you're saying, but... - 16/03/2017 11:53:19 PM 345 Views
Attempt at clarification - 17/03/2017 12:55:03 AM 407 Views
Hehehe..."Fuck off" - 19/03/2017 05:23:49 PM 349 Views
Seems kind of nonsensical - 14/03/2017 01:33:49 AM 423 Views
Good reply. - 14/03/2017 12:57:47 PM 403 Views
They weren't really wrong - 14/03/2017 01:30:07 PM 428 Views
I do enjoy historical "what if" situations. - 14/03/2017 01:47:27 AM 348 Views
Hi there. - 14/03/2017 01:02:44 PM 308 Views
I still think democracy among those insidiously intrusive Western values Russia resists so fiercely - 14/03/2017 02:37:39 PM 341 Views
Is it your persistant anti-Russia bias that makes you so dogmatic? - 14/03/2017 02:51:23 PM 341 Views
I have no problem with Russia, only its government - 14/03/2017 03:07:14 PM 364 Views
Really? - 14/03/2017 03:15:10 PM 358 Views
What a terrible article - 14/03/2017 08:04:50 PM 311 Views
I thought you would think this way. - 15/03/2017 12:04:57 PM 395 Views
I can't decide what I think about Evans - 15/03/2017 04:10:05 PM 313 Views

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