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Oh. Sareitha Sedai Send a noteboard - 20/10/2009 01:32:59 PM
I wasn't aware he was late and unprepared because he was giving birth at the time of the presentation. ;)

The point is it happens to most people at some point and its difficult for a lot of people... have you ever thought that he might not want to ask for help, egos bruise easily.


So his ego was more important to him than his obligation? But that same ego wouldn't prevent him from expecting/accepting that his company lower their expectations of him and hold him to a lower standard than the rest of their employees?

We dont know all the facts as you say, but simply stating that if someone who "falls below company standard" after just having become a parent (sleepless nights and all) deserves to be sacked is a horrible thing to say. Obsiously if he wasn't good before the child and this has just exposed the problem further, then I can accept that, but for sacking an otherwise competent employee at a one off highly stressful time for making a mistake isn't right.


It could be if his "mistake" had consequences for the company beyond what they were willing to accept.

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Have you ever had to fire someone? The Secret Lurker - 19/10/2009 03:34:57 PM 851 Views
ouch that's rough LadyLorraine - 19/10/2009 03:45:27 PM 585 Views
Yes. I still have my job. The Secret Lurker - 19/10/2009 03:59:12 PM 560 Views
i've never had to myself, but... moondog - 19/10/2009 04:19:38 PM 615 Views
Re: Yes. I still have my job. TheCrownless - 19/10/2009 06:03:40 PM 523 Views
Absolutely. The Secret Lurker - 19/10/2009 06:06:05 PM 583 Views
"coming down from ON high" is the proper expression Tom - 19/10/2009 09:46:41 PM 596 Views
Thank you. I did not know that. *NM* The Secret Lurker - 20/10/2009 01:38:46 AM 213 Views
...does that matter if he didn't do his job, and that had negative consequences for the company? *NM* Sareitha Sedai - 19/10/2009 06:28:03 PM 231 Views
As long as its ok for people to sack women who get pregnant TheCrownless - 19/10/2009 07:59:58 PM 565 Views
Women who get pregnant and are using that as an excuse to not do their jobs? Sure. Sareitha Sedai - 19/10/2009 09:11:56 PM 587 Views
I'm with you... Antigone - 19/10/2009 11:32:08 PM 572 Views
Thats not at all what I'm saying TheCrownless - 20/10/2009 12:40:28 AM 553 Views
Lots of assumptions. Antigone - 20/10/2009 01:54:02 AM 498 Views
Like I said... assumptions TheCrownless - 20/10/2009 01:40:23 PM 607 Views
Can you work and give birth at the same time? TheCrownless - 20/10/2009 12:27:45 AM 578 Views
Oh. Sareitha Sedai - 20/10/2009 01:32:59 PM 563 Views
Re: Oh. TheCrownless - 20/10/2009 01:47:33 PM 579 Views
LOL Sareitha Sedai - 20/10/2009 01:51:34 PM 505 Views
I hadn't read that, it was posted after I commented TheCrownless - 20/10/2009 10:49:19 PM 511 Views
I agree. Companies aren't charities. Tom - 19/10/2009 09:47:43 PM 523 Views
So you're against maternity pay? TheCrownless - 20/10/2009 12:29:07 AM 576 Views
Where I work you have to use your sick leave and annual leave to cover maternity leave. Tashmere - 20/10/2009 01:26:34 AM 514 Views
Same with my job... Antigone - 20/10/2009 01:56:00 AM 513 Views
And nobody gets special treatment. *NM* Tashmere - 22/10/2009 01:16:13 AM 215 Views
Thats just one of the variations of maternity leave I was suggesting. TheCrownless - 20/10/2009 01:50:11 PM 527 Views
But that's what I was addressing when I talked about his choice. Sareitha Sedai - 20/10/2009 01:54:30 PM 517 Views
That's why it's an employer and not a social worker... Antigone - 20/10/2009 09:58:00 PM 569 Views
How is this any different from sick leave? Ghavrel - 20/10/2009 10:20:50 PM 564 Views
Because the person is not there, mainly. Antigone - 21/10/2009 12:54:39 AM 508 Views
You pick up the slack because you're a super-wonderful person TheCrownless - 20/10/2009 10:56:04 PM 515 Views
No, I never said anything of the sort Tom - 20/10/2009 03:14:07 PM 537 Views
I was simply saying TheCrownless - 20/10/2009 11:00:09 PM 476 Views
Had that happen to me. TaskmasterJack - 19/10/2009 04:15:45 PM 563 Views
I'm very sorry StarrBecca - 19/10/2009 05:35:57 PM 537 Views
Man that stinks. :/ globug0822 - 19/10/2009 06:52:04 PM 584 Views
Yep... Hated it too. Jedi Wolf Sister - 19/10/2009 07:48:31 PM 496 Views
It takes a special person to be a supervisor/manager. Tashmere - 20/10/2009 01:21:42 AM 585 Views
Did he deserve it???? good question. The Secret Lurker - 20/10/2009 01:38:29 AM 631 Views
Seems like the answer is yes Sareitha Sedai - 20/10/2009 01:37:15 PM 523 Views
Did he try to transfer? Or did he procrastinate or blow off your suggestion? Tashmere - 21/10/2009 03:39:57 AM 515 Views
Hmm - sounds to me like your boss is a coward SilverWarder - 29/10/2009 02:48:30 AM 494 Views
I have fired four people. Nurse Denice - 20/10/2009 11:02:35 AM 570 Views
Why have I got an image of someone walking the plank? TheCrownless - 20/10/2009 10:52:30 PM 528 Views
Yep - and it sucks SilverWarder - 20/10/2009 07:05:35 PM 535 Views
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