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Seems like the answer is yes Sareitha Sedai Send a noteboard - 20/10/2009 01:37:15 PM
on August 9, 2009 I told him that I thought it would be a good idea if he transferred out of our team and went to research and documents for the time being. He had been late a few times as his wife was having complications with this pregnancy. Tardiness I can handle and cover for. But his work had been slipping. I noticed. Our boss noticed. The owner noticed. I thought he had it worked out after the birth and the baby and mother were hale and healthy. Now with an infant at home (I understand his situation can not be easy) I give him one last warning as per my directives from my boss. That was two weeks ago. I find a personal note from my boss on my desk this morning to call A.S.A.P. I knew it would not be good. I got my instructions. I asked if we could transfer him or put him on unpaid leave for punishment. Not an option.


You (and your company) were very accommodating. In the end it was his choices that caused this. I'm sure that doesn't make it easier for you to have to have fired him, but if you feel guilt, it's misplaced. Compassion is okay of course ;)
If you are from Betelgeuse, please have one of your Earth friends read what I've written before you respond. Or try concentrating harder.

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Have you ever had to fire someone? The Secret Lurker - 19/10/2009 03:34:57 PM 852 Views
ouch that's rough LadyLorraine - 19/10/2009 03:45:27 PM 586 Views
Yes. I still have my job. The Secret Lurker - 19/10/2009 03:59:12 PM 560 Views
i've never had to myself, but... moondog - 19/10/2009 04:19:38 PM 615 Views
Re: Yes. I still have my job. TheCrownless - 19/10/2009 06:03:40 PM 524 Views
Absolutely. The Secret Lurker - 19/10/2009 06:06:05 PM 584 Views
"coming down from ON high" is the proper expression Tom - 19/10/2009 09:46:41 PM 597 Views
Thank you. I did not know that. *NM* The Secret Lurker - 20/10/2009 01:38:46 AM 213 Views
...does that matter if he didn't do his job, and that had negative consequences for the company? *NM* Sareitha Sedai - 19/10/2009 06:28:03 PM 231 Views
As long as its ok for people to sack women who get pregnant TheCrownless - 19/10/2009 07:59:58 PM 567 Views
Women who get pregnant and are using that as an excuse to not do their jobs? Sure. Sareitha Sedai - 19/10/2009 09:11:56 PM 588 Views
I'm with you... Antigone - 19/10/2009 11:32:08 PM 572 Views
Thats not at all what I'm saying TheCrownless - 20/10/2009 12:40:28 AM 553 Views
Lots of assumptions. Antigone - 20/10/2009 01:54:02 AM 498 Views
Like I said... assumptions TheCrownless - 20/10/2009 01:40:23 PM 608 Views
Can you work and give birth at the same time? TheCrownless - 20/10/2009 12:27:45 AM 578 Views
Oh. Sareitha Sedai - 20/10/2009 01:32:59 PM 563 Views
Re: Oh. TheCrownless - 20/10/2009 01:47:33 PM 580 Views
LOL Sareitha Sedai - 20/10/2009 01:51:34 PM 505 Views
I hadn't read that, it was posted after I commented TheCrownless - 20/10/2009 10:49:19 PM 512 Views
I agree. Companies aren't charities. Tom - 19/10/2009 09:47:43 PM 523 Views
So you're against maternity pay? TheCrownless - 20/10/2009 12:29:07 AM 576 Views
Where I work you have to use your sick leave and annual leave to cover maternity leave. Tashmere - 20/10/2009 01:26:34 AM 515 Views
Same with my job... Antigone - 20/10/2009 01:56:00 AM 513 Views
And nobody gets special treatment. *NM* Tashmere - 22/10/2009 01:16:13 AM 215 Views
Thats just one of the variations of maternity leave I was suggesting. TheCrownless - 20/10/2009 01:50:11 PM 528 Views
But that's what I was addressing when I talked about his choice. Sareitha Sedai - 20/10/2009 01:54:30 PM 518 Views
That's why it's an employer and not a social worker... Antigone - 20/10/2009 09:58:00 PM 569 Views
How is this any different from sick leave? Ghavrel - 20/10/2009 10:20:50 PM 564 Views
Because the person is not there, mainly. Antigone - 21/10/2009 12:54:39 AM 509 Views
You pick up the slack because you're a super-wonderful person TheCrownless - 20/10/2009 10:56:04 PM 516 Views
No, I never said anything of the sort Tom - 20/10/2009 03:14:07 PM 538 Views
I was simply saying TheCrownless - 20/10/2009 11:00:09 PM 478 Views
Had that happen to me. TaskmasterJack - 19/10/2009 04:15:45 PM 563 Views
I'm very sorry StarrBecca - 19/10/2009 05:35:57 PM 538 Views
Man that stinks. :/ globug0822 - 19/10/2009 06:52:04 PM 586 Views
Yep... Hated it too. Jedi Wolf Sister - 19/10/2009 07:48:31 PM 498 Views
It takes a special person to be a supervisor/manager. Tashmere - 20/10/2009 01:21:42 AM 585 Views
Did he deserve it???? good question. The Secret Lurker - 20/10/2009 01:38:29 AM 631 Views
Seems like the answer is yes Sareitha Sedai - 20/10/2009 01:37:15 PM 525 Views
Did he try to transfer? Or did he procrastinate or blow off your suggestion? Tashmere - 21/10/2009 03:39:57 AM 516 Views
Hmm - sounds to me like your boss is a coward SilverWarder - 29/10/2009 02:48:30 AM 496 Views
I have fired four people. Nurse Denice - 20/10/2009 11:02:35 AM 570 Views
Why have I got an image of someone walking the plank? TheCrownless - 20/10/2009 10:52:30 PM 528 Views
Yep - and it sucks SilverWarder - 20/10/2009 07:05:35 PM 535 Views
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