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You and Adam are being equally unconstructive. Joel Send a noteboard - 18/01/2010 06:21:45 AM
You both seem to feel I'm very wrong, but neither want to say more than that. Though you're on safer ground (and not indulging in ad hominems) because while I may or may not be a moron, I think I have a better idea of what I believe than he does.

I stand by my comments though: If we're talking Sacraments, leave the law out of it, and if we're talking law, leave the Sacraments out of it (as the law requires. ) Even countries that still have state churchs have figured that one out, and distinguish between the civil ceremony and any religious one that may or may not occur.
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LOL... *NM* - 18/01/2010 05:21:14 AM 441 Views
You and Adam are being equally unconstructive. - 18/01/2010 06:21:45 AM 725 Views
why do you imply "constructive" is in anyway the intent? *NM* - 18/01/2010 06:32:27 AM 361 Views
*shrug* I never stopped believing in lost causes? - 18/01/2010 07:36:04 AM 732 Views
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Not much of a friend then. Good ridance to bad friends. *NM* - 17/01/2010 08:51:02 PM 493 Views
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Link? - 27/01/2010 09:28:22 AM 832 Views
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cannoli is a pastry *NM* - 19/01/2010 07:25:04 PM 301 Views
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