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I presume you are equally against the current set up snoopcester Send a noteboard - 18/01/2010 12:31:33 PM
You are not wrong about your distinction between civil & religious weddings. However, same-sex marriage forces others to treat unions to which they are personally opposed as legitimate. For example, nothing stops an employer from extending his health benefits to his exployees' same-sex partner if he chooses, and the free market means that employers who do such things have an advantage in trying to attract employees who would be interested (and for the Christians, the right of an employer to spend his money as he pleases in such a manner is supported by the Gospels, so this should not be an issue) in this benefit. Meanwhile those who oppose it are free to withhold such recognition and also free to accept the consequences of losing employees who dislike such a policy. The point is, everyone is free to act according to his or her beliefs. Not so if same-sex marriage is legalized. Now everyone must accept same-sex marriage under threat of force, even if it violates their conscience or religion. By trying to get legal recognition for same-sex marriage, it supporters aer the ones trying to ram THEIR ideology down everyone's throat!



After all, it is forcing the same situation you oppose on, for example, a gay employer who is against hetrosexual marriage. It is, after all, supporters of hetrosexual marriage that are currently actually the ones ramming THEIR ideology down everyone's throat!
*MySmiley*

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I may have lost a friend over same sex marriage - 17/01/2010 08:03:26 AM 1496 Views
the problem with your friend is the "southern evangelical christian" part - 17/01/2010 09:07:02 AM 807 Views
They believe gay marriage is ongoing unrepentant sin. - 17/01/2010 12:04:58 PM 801 Views
God your a moron. - 17/01/2010 09:10:17 PM 754 Views
be nice - 18/01/2010 06:26:58 AM 662 Views
<shrug> They can believe that all that they like - 18/01/2010 08:07:28 PM 714 Views
And live accordingly. Just like everyone else. - 18/01/2010 11:10:51 PM 716 Views
Re: And live accordingly. Just like everyone else. - 20/01/2010 10:40:36 PM 669 Views
It is, I believe, hardest for the intelligent educated man. - 21/01/2010 10:29:39 AM 803 Views
You can't use logic in an irrational argument. - 17/01/2010 10:12:11 AM 701 Views
LOL... *NM* - 18/01/2010 05:21:14 AM 385 Views
You and Adam are being equally unconstructive. - 18/01/2010 06:21:45 AM 615 Views
why do you imply "constructive" is in anyway the intent? *NM* - 18/01/2010 06:32:27 AM 302 Views
*shrug* I never stopped believing in lost causes? - 18/01/2010 07:36:04 AM 620 Views
Re: You can't use logic in an irrational argument. - 18/01/2010 06:28:41 AM 756 Views
Always welcome. - 18/01/2010 07:31:27 AM 865 Views
We finally converted you - 17/01/2010 08:43:25 PM 641 Views
Not much of a friend then. Good ridance to bad friends. *NM* - 17/01/2010 08:51:02 PM 442 Views
I agree. A friend who can't respect differences of opinion is no friend at all. *NM* - 17/01/2010 09:11:33 PM 304 Views
seriously. *NM* - 17/01/2010 10:46:17 PM 260 Views
Only because such sentiment is my pet peeve...condemning exclusivity is hypocritical. *NM* - 19/01/2010 12:37:37 AM 329 Views
yeah no kidding - 18/01/2010 06:30:45 AM 627 Views
It forces other people to accept THEIR ideology that same sex unions are legitimate. - 18/01/2010 01:49:20 AM 802 Views
I would assume, then, that you don't support any government-mandated health care? - 18/01/2010 02:07:40 AM 619 Views
Correct - 18/01/2010 04:29:04 AM 704 Views
Although I disagree with the vast majority of your arguments, - 18/01/2010 08:50:09 AM 695 Views
Thank you. - 20/01/2010 01:47:34 AM 850 Views
Please tell me you have a source for that quotation. Other than me. - 21/01/2010 12:31:27 PM 716 Views
It's GK Chesterton! What the hell are you going on about? - 27/01/2010 02:41:00 AM 590 Views
Link? - 27/01/2010 09:28:22 AM 687 Views
I can't find a link to the exact quote - 27/01/2010 12:14:19 PM 796 Views
Re: Link? - 27/01/2010 01:38:36 PM 819 Views
Perhaps we should define our terms more precisely. - 15/02/2010 11:28:09 AM 1189 Views
we do not exist in a free market. - 18/01/2010 04:09:37 AM 631 Views
And that's bad. Since when has the correct response to oppression been "accept further oppression"? *NM* - 18/01/2010 04:30:44 AM 310 Views
I am simply pointing out your arguments do not apply to the present economic environment. - 18/01/2010 04:46:04 AM 579 Views
No I am not. - 19/01/2010 10:44:31 PM 710 Views
That's utter nonsense. - 18/01/2010 04:19:57 AM 661 Views
Re: That's utter nonsense. - 18/01/2010 04:41:27 AM 677 Views
civil marriages DO have a purpose. - 18/01/2010 04:49:12 AM 659 Views
Re: civil marriages DO have a purpose. - 19/01/2010 10:47:18 PM 717 Views
Re: That's utter nonsense. - 18/01/2010 07:13:54 AM 662 Views
Re: That's utter nonsense. - 19/01/2010 10:59:45 PM 627 Views
Re: That's utter nonsense. - 18/01/2010 07:15:50 AM 767 Views
Re: That's utter nonsense. - 20/01/2010 01:38:37 AM 549 Views
Are you at all surprised? - 18/01/2010 07:59:30 AM 651 Views
A truly free country means I don't have the freedom to shoot you - 18/01/2010 05:57:44 AM 748 Views
You really said nothing, right there. - 18/01/2010 08:34:33 AM 698 Views
I presume you are equally against the current set up - 18/01/2010 12:31:33 PM 733 Views
He said as much in his response to me above. *NM* - 18/01/2010 09:37:49 PM 249 Views
That's such an amusing argument - 18/01/2010 08:17:15 PM 615 Views
I'm against people with pasta based nicknames on fantasy forums *NM* - 19/01/2010 03:03:31 PM 271 Views
cannoli is a pastry *NM* - 19/01/2010 07:25:04 PM 245 Views
I have no problem with people with pastry based names, just pasta - 21/01/2010 12:28:44 AM 587 Views
I can't help but find it funny - 18/01/2010 12:51:57 PM 601 Views
So... - 18/01/2010 03:39:33 PM 740 Views
I think you missed who was the one to walk out - 18/01/2010 04:11:05 PM 624 Views
you acept your friends with their warts or you don't - 18/01/2010 06:45:13 PM 728 Views
I think you missed who was the one to walk out *NM* - 18/01/2010 08:01:25 PM 228 Views
I don't think it was that clear - 18/01/2010 10:01:32 PM 647 Views
I don't think it is all that clear yet, either - 18/01/2010 10:27:54 PM 681 Views
I wasn't taking sides - 18/01/2010 10:57:39 PM 559 Views

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