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I don't understand this Tor Send a noteboard - 20/01/2010 09:07:09 AM
Granted, I'm considered rather left-wing by Norwegian standards, which probably makes me a communist by American standards, but I would still like to understand what people see as the problem with ObamaCare.

As I see it, the money to pay for hospitals etc. must come from the people. In Norway, that happens through taxes. People pay taxes to the government, the government gives the money to the hospitals (which are owned by the government). The way I understand it, in America those who can afford it give money to an insurance company, which then probably keeps some fraction of it for themselves, and hand the rest on to hospitals as their clients receive treatment.

I am simply unable to understand why it is seen as a good idea to involve private insurance companies, who are presumably looking to make a profit, into one of the most essential functions in a country.

I'm not deliberately trying to be difficult here, I just don't understand it, and I'd be happy if anyone could explain.
Fram kamerater!
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The Democrats have the arrogance to say "people don't understand the Health Care Bill". - 20/01/2010 03:57:17 AM 722 Views
agreed... *NM* - 20/01/2010 05:14:04 AM 456 Views
That is fucking nuts. *NM* - 20/01/2010 04:06:48 AM 441 Views
Celebrate good times come on! - 20/01/2010 03:53:01 AM 650 Views
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If it'd numb the pain, I'd take it gladly right now! - 20/01/2010 05:47:04 AM 633 Views
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Do you honestly think this bill would help you? - 20/01/2010 02:21:02 PM 694 Views
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Well lucky you - 21/01/2010 09:09:16 PM 753 Views
I don't understand this - 20/01/2010 09:07:09 AM 964 Views
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I think "tries" is the key word here. - 20/01/2010 07:44:53 PM 693 Views
Yeah, that's true. *NM* - 20/01/2010 10:05:15 PM 370 Views
I think.... - 20/01/2010 12:52:07 PM 731 Views
There are a lot of reasons - 20/01/2010 02:13:58 PM 688 Views
That was a really good response. *NM* - 20/01/2010 02:54:36 PM 487 Views
Re: There are a lot of reasons - 20/01/2010 03:02:48 PM 731 Views
There is the overtreatment aspect as well, of course. *NM* - 20/01/2010 03:46:45 PM 374 Views
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Re: There are a lot of reasons - 20/01/2010 11:00:11 PM 898 Views
I think your misunderstanding comes from one concept you mention. - 20/01/2010 04:57:27 PM 772 Views
Re: I don't understand this - 20/01/2010 07:56:02 PM 689 Views
*celebrates the beginning of the downfall of the USA* *NM* - 20/01/2010 12:39:19 PM 368 Views
Want some sugar with those grapes? *NM* - 20/01/2010 12:41:33 PM 359 Views
Beginning? *NM* - 20/01/2010 12:47:51 PM 334 Views
Right...you just keep thinking that... *NM* - 20/01/2010 02:15:41 PM 314 Views
The beginning!? Ha! *NM* - 20/01/2010 07:47:57 PM 324 Views
This is excellent. I am happy. - 20/01/2010 01:50:22 PM 672 Views
I'm not really familiar with Coakley or Brown - 20/01/2010 02:22:51 PM 710 Views
"not the gay things" XD *NM* - 20/01/2010 07:47:00 PM 346 Views
I do hope this doesn't turn Obama into a lame duck. *NM* - 20/01/2010 02:07:34 PM 383 Views
Frankly, I hope it does. *NM* - 20/01/2010 02:15:11 PM 347 Views
Agreed. *NM* - 20/01/2010 10:23:17 PM 340 Views
And then what will happen after that? - 20/01/2010 10:35:46 PM 823 Views
It would mean, effectively, that Congress controls the domestic agenda and Hillary foreign affairs. - 20/01/2010 10:52:24 PM 523 Views
That's kind of ironic... - 20/01/2010 11:15:05 PM 833 Views
And condemn more people to untimely deaths? - 20/01/2010 02:33:08 PM 668 Views
Pity, that there is no government sanctioned murder of the stupid. - 20/01/2010 02:52:52 PM 604 Views
I think the technical term is "dumbicide". - 20/01/2010 03:00:13 PM 714 Views
Don't the Darwin Awards help with that? *NM* - 20/01/2010 03:50:37 PM 364 Views
Oh dear. - 20/01/2010 07:42:18 PM 754 Views
Bah! - 20/01/2010 07:45:48 PM 648 Views
The elderly, eh? Too bad we don't have a program for that. *NM* - 20/01/2010 03:01:40 PM 404 Views
They had their whole lives to save up! F*** 'em. *NM* - 22/01/2010 01:12:20 PM 568 Views
I thought it was time for another such celebration... - 20/01/2010 03:35:28 PM 723 Views
That thud you heard was the lid dropping on the coffin - 20/01/2010 03:49:21 PM 728 Views
True, but it is now finally DEAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! - 21/01/2010 01:08:12 AM 711 Views
I keep thinking this thread title says, "BROWNS WIN!" - 21/01/2010 02:21:24 PM 641 Views
Lack of Health Care Reform means American Wage Stagnation - 21/01/2010 06:38:11 PM 829 Views

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