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And then what will happen after that? Legolas Send a noteboard - 20/01/2010 10:35:46 PM
Suppose he does remain a lame duck president. I'm assuming that your post means you're willing to pay three years of little action on the important issues facing the US as the price for Obama not passing legislation you disagree with. But what after 2012? Do you really think suddenly the next president will be that much better and that much more able to pass good legislation, or that much more capable to tackle the problems that will only have grown worse by then?

I can see the positive effects this defeat can have in terms of forcing Obama to be more bipartisan, ignoring the negative effects for a moment. But I cannot see how him being a lame duck president for the rest of his term is a good thing in any way, among other reasons because it would imply no improvement and more likely a worsening in the current polarization.
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BROWN WINS! Let's celebrate the end of ObamaCare!!! - 20/01/2010 02:20:22 AM 1385 Views
My vote put him over the top!!!! *NM* - 20/01/2010 02:22:50 AM 401 Views
Wait...you only voted once? - 20/01/2010 02:24:42 AM 642 Views
I had planned to post a fake-news joke post earlier. - 20/01/2010 02:27:14 AM 778 Views
The joke is even less funny when written. - 20/01/2010 02:51:18 PM 629 Views
*dances with you* - 20/01/2010 02:24:17 AM 644 Views
Because of Brown or because of dancing with me? *NM* - 20/01/2010 02:25:24 AM 403 Views
Its hard to pick. *NM* - 20/01/2010 02:27:31 AM 342 Views
Don't jinx it - 20/01/2010 02:27:25 AM 758 Views
It's a win-win situation as far as I'm concerned. - 20/01/2010 02:33:16 AM 674 Views
God I love reading the shit at DailyKos right now. - 20/01/2010 02:45:23 AM 732 Views
Actually, there is a chance they can use reconiliation to pass it. I hope not. - 20/01/2010 02:46:47 AM 761 Views
If they did that, they'd be signing their own resignations. - 20/01/2010 02:54:56 AM 679 Views
Probably so but Pelosi did bring it up a few weeks ago. - 20/01/2010 04:05:17 AM 667 Views
Pelosi never thought it would come to this a few weeks ago. - 20/01/2010 04:18:15 AM 686 Views
Re: Pelosi never thought it would come to this a few weeks ago. - 20/01/2010 04:48:32 AM 653 Views
They can, theoretically. - 20/01/2010 12:30:42 PM 651 Views
*does a cartwheel* - 20/01/2010 03:07:00 AM 764 Views
If this isn't a wake up call to the democratic party... - 20/01/2010 03:39:36 AM 688 Views
I guess it depends on the wake up call's message. - 20/01/2010 03:45:38 AM 710 Views
indeed - 20/01/2010 03:51:39 AM 727 Views
Seriously?? - 20/01/2010 03:54:56 AM 777 Views
The Democrats have the arrogance to say "people don't understand the Health Care Bill". - 20/01/2010 03:57:17 AM 723 Views
agreed... *NM* - 20/01/2010 05:14:04 AM 457 Views
That is fucking nuts. *NM* - 20/01/2010 04:06:48 AM 442 Views
Celebrate good times come on! - 20/01/2010 03:53:01 AM 651 Views
I'm in no mood to celebrate - 20/01/2010 04:34:42 AM 809 Views
Re: I'm in no mood to celebrate - 20/01/2010 04:52:16 AM 692 Views
If it'd numb the pain, I'd take it gladly right now! - 20/01/2010 05:47:04 AM 635 Views
Re: If it'd numb the pain, I'd take it gladly right now! - 20/01/2010 06:12:34 AM 777 Views
Do you honestly think this bill would help you? - 20/01/2010 02:21:02 PM 695 Views
just wondering.... - 21/01/2010 01:56:05 AM 702 Views
Well lucky you - 21/01/2010 09:09:16 PM 754 Views
I don't understand this - 20/01/2010 09:07:09 AM 967 Views
Re: I don't understand this - 20/01/2010 12:43:39 PM 811 Views
That would be so massive a reform that it would never ever pass. - 20/01/2010 12:47:23 PM 736 Views
I think "tries" is the key word here. - 20/01/2010 07:44:53 PM 695 Views
Yeah, that's true. *NM* - 20/01/2010 10:05:15 PM 371 Views
I think.... - 20/01/2010 12:52:07 PM 732 Views
There are a lot of reasons - 20/01/2010 02:13:58 PM 689 Views
That was a really good response. *NM* - 20/01/2010 02:54:36 PM 489 Views
Re: There are a lot of reasons - 20/01/2010 03:02:48 PM 732 Views
There is the overtreatment aspect as well, of course. *NM* - 20/01/2010 03:46:45 PM 375 Views
Re: There are a lot of reasons - 20/01/2010 05:01:31 PM 717 Views
Re: There are a lot of reasons - 20/01/2010 11:00:11 PM 900 Views
I think your misunderstanding comes from one concept you mention. - 20/01/2010 04:57:27 PM 773 Views
Re: I don't understand this - 20/01/2010 07:56:02 PM 690 Views
*celebrates the beginning of the downfall of the USA* *NM* - 20/01/2010 12:39:19 PM 368 Views
Want some sugar with those grapes? *NM* - 20/01/2010 12:41:33 PM 360 Views
Beginning? *NM* - 20/01/2010 12:47:51 PM 335 Views
Right...you just keep thinking that... *NM* - 20/01/2010 02:15:41 PM 315 Views
The beginning!? Ha! *NM* - 20/01/2010 07:47:57 PM 325 Views
This is excellent. I am happy. - 20/01/2010 01:50:22 PM 673 Views
I'm not really familiar with Coakley or Brown - 20/01/2010 02:22:51 PM 711 Views
"not the gay things" XD *NM* - 20/01/2010 07:47:00 PM 346 Views
I do hope this doesn't turn Obama into a lame duck. *NM* - 20/01/2010 02:07:34 PM 384 Views
Frankly, I hope it does. *NM* - 20/01/2010 02:15:11 PM 348 Views
Agreed. *NM* - 20/01/2010 10:23:17 PM 341 Views
And then what will happen after that? - 20/01/2010 10:35:46 PM 824 Views
It would mean, effectively, that Congress controls the domestic agenda and Hillary foreign affairs. - 20/01/2010 10:52:24 PM 524 Views
That's kind of ironic... - 20/01/2010 11:15:05 PM 834 Views
And condemn more people to untimely deaths? - 20/01/2010 02:33:08 PM 671 Views
Pity, that there is no government sanctioned murder of the stupid. - 20/01/2010 02:52:52 PM 605 Views
I think the technical term is "dumbicide". - 20/01/2010 03:00:13 PM 715 Views
Don't the Darwin Awards help with that? *NM* - 20/01/2010 03:50:37 PM 364 Views
Oh dear. - 20/01/2010 07:42:18 PM 755 Views
Bah! - 20/01/2010 07:45:48 PM 649 Views
The elderly, eh? Too bad we don't have a program for that. *NM* - 20/01/2010 03:01:40 PM 404 Views
They had their whole lives to save up! F*** 'em. *NM* - 22/01/2010 01:12:20 PM 568 Views
I thought it was time for another such celebration... - 20/01/2010 03:35:28 PM 724 Views
That thud you heard was the lid dropping on the coffin - 20/01/2010 03:49:21 PM 729 Views
True, but it is now finally DEAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! - 21/01/2010 01:08:12 AM 712 Views
I keep thinking this thread title says, "BROWNS WIN!" - 21/01/2010 02:21:24 PM 643 Views
Lack of Health Care Reform means American Wage Stagnation - 21/01/2010 06:38:11 PM 830 Views

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