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The Democrats have the arrogance to say "people don't understand the Health Care Bill". Tom Send a noteboard - 20/01/2010 03:57:17 AM
The inference is that, if the masses weren't "lied to", they would understand that the Democrats are their benevolent caretakers, acting in their interests. Bullshit.

Yes, people were lied to. Sarah Palin's name comes to mind. However, the Democrats did their fair share of lying as well, especially with respect to the price tag on the bill. It is clear by this point that the bill neither (a) addresses the primary causes of the high cost of health care nor (b) has any chance of doing what it is ostensibly being passed to do. It will kill jobs at a time when unemployment is at 10%. It will increase our deficit and likely also lead to tax increases, both of which will kill more jobs. It will bloat the Federal government's size still further, which will also help to kill our economy.

People understand that. Now, it sounds like SOME Democrats are starting to realise that they have to re-examine their stance on the bill. I expect that they'll start to bail like rats from a sinking ship, letting Pelosi and Reid go down. I wouldn't be surprised to see a change in leadership in both houses of Congress.
Political correctness is the pettiest form of casuistry.

ἡ δὲ κἀκ τριῶν τρυπημάτων ἐργαζομένη ἐνεκάλει τῇ φύσει, δυσφορουμένη, ὅτι δὴ μὴ καὶ τοὺς τιτθοὺς αὐτῇ εὐρύτερον ἢ νῦν εἰσι τρυπώη, ὅπως καὶ ἄλλην ἐνταῦθα μίξιν ἐπιτεχνᾶσθαι δυνατὴ εἴη. – Procopius

Ummaka qinnassa nīk!

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BROWN WINS! Let's celebrate the end of ObamaCare!!! - 20/01/2010 02:20:22 AM 1872 Views
My vote put him over the top!!!! *NM* - 20/01/2010 02:22:50 AM 646 Views
Wait...you only voted once? - 20/01/2010 02:24:42 AM 1114 Views
I had planned to post a fake-news joke post earlier. - 20/01/2010 02:27:14 AM 1261 Views
The joke is even less funny when written. - 20/01/2010 02:51:18 PM 1096 Views
*dances with you* - 20/01/2010 02:24:17 AM 1133 Views
Because of Brown or because of dancing with me? *NM* - 20/01/2010 02:25:24 AM 663 Views
Its hard to pick. *NM* - 20/01/2010 02:27:31 AM 606 Views
Don't jinx it - 20/01/2010 02:27:25 AM 1227 Views
It's a win-win situation as far as I'm concerned. - 20/01/2010 02:33:16 AM 1164 Views
i predict that political predictions are not always so cut and dried - 21/01/2010 01:50:23 AM 1178 Views
God I love reading the shit at DailyKos right now. - 20/01/2010 02:45:23 AM 1194 Views
Actually, there is a chance they can use reconiliation to pass it. I hope not. - 20/01/2010 02:46:47 AM 1268 Views
If they did that, they'd be signing their own resignations. - 20/01/2010 02:54:56 AM 1150 Views
Probably so but Pelosi did bring it up a few weeks ago. - 20/01/2010 04:05:17 AM 1138 Views
Pelosi never thought it would come to this a few weeks ago. - 20/01/2010 04:18:15 AM 1137 Views
Re: Pelosi never thought it would come to this a few weeks ago. - 20/01/2010 04:48:32 AM 1122 Views
They can, theoretically. - 20/01/2010 12:30:42 PM 1112 Views
*does a cartwheel* - 20/01/2010 03:07:00 AM 1260 Views
If this isn't a wake up call to the democratic party... - 20/01/2010 03:39:36 AM 1192 Views
I guess it depends on the wake up call's message. - 20/01/2010 03:45:38 AM 1157 Views
indeed - 20/01/2010 03:51:39 AM 1234 Views
Seriously?? - 20/01/2010 03:54:56 AM 1259 Views
The Democrats have the arrogance to say "people don't understand the Health Care Bill". - 20/01/2010 03:57:17 AM 1237 Views
agreed... *NM* - 20/01/2010 05:14:04 AM 719 Views
That is fucking nuts. *NM* - 20/01/2010 04:06:48 AM 678 Views
Celebrate good times come on! - 20/01/2010 03:53:01 AM 1118 Views
I'm in no mood to celebrate - 20/01/2010 04:34:42 AM 1312 Views
Re: I'm in no mood to celebrate - 20/01/2010 04:52:16 AM 1182 Views
If it'd numb the pain, I'd take it gladly right now! - 20/01/2010 05:47:04 AM 1113 Views
Re: If it'd numb the pain, I'd take it gladly right now! - 20/01/2010 06:12:34 AM 1257 Views
Do you honestly think this bill would help you? - 20/01/2010 02:21:02 PM 1181 Views
just wondering.... - 21/01/2010 01:56:05 AM 1202 Views
Well lucky you - 21/01/2010 09:09:16 PM 1186 Views
I don't understand this - 20/01/2010 09:07:09 AM 1641 Views
Re: I don't understand this - 20/01/2010 12:43:39 PM 1313 Views
That would be so massive a reform that it would never ever pass. - 20/01/2010 12:47:23 PM 1221 Views
I think "tries" is the key word here. - 20/01/2010 07:44:53 PM 1184 Views
Yeah, that's true. *NM* - 20/01/2010 10:05:15 PM 627 Views
I think.... - 20/01/2010 12:52:07 PM 1229 Views
There are a lot of reasons - 20/01/2010 02:13:58 PM 1203 Views
That was a really good response. *NM* - 20/01/2010 02:54:36 PM 765 Views
Re: There are a lot of reasons - 20/01/2010 03:02:48 PM 1183 Views
There is the overtreatment aspect as well, of course. *NM* - 20/01/2010 03:46:45 PM 629 Views
Groaning under illegal immigrants? - 20/01/2010 03:38:23 PM 1263 Views
Re: There are a lot of reasons - 20/01/2010 05:01:31 PM 1230 Views
Re: There are a lot of reasons - 20/01/2010 11:00:11 PM 1399 Views
I think your misunderstanding comes from one concept you mention. - 20/01/2010 04:57:27 PM 1268 Views
Re: I don't understand this - 20/01/2010 07:56:02 PM 1178 Views
*celebrates the beginning of the downfall of the USA* *NM* - 20/01/2010 12:39:19 PM 623 Views
Want some sugar with those grapes? *NM* - 20/01/2010 12:41:33 PM 619 Views
Beginning? *NM* - 20/01/2010 12:47:51 PM 571 Views
Right...you just keep thinking that... *NM* - 20/01/2010 02:15:41 PM 584 Views
The beginning!? Ha! *NM* - 20/01/2010 07:47:57 PM 602 Views
This is excellent. I am happy. - 20/01/2010 01:50:22 PM 1148 Views
I'm not really familiar with Coakley or Brown - 20/01/2010 02:22:51 PM 1185 Views
"not the gay things" XD *NM* - 20/01/2010 07:47:00 PM 599 Views
I do hope this doesn't turn Obama into a lame duck. *NM* - 20/01/2010 02:07:34 PM 632 Views
Frankly, I hope it does. *NM* - 20/01/2010 02:15:11 PM 625 Views
Agreed. *NM* - 20/01/2010 10:23:17 PM 618 Views
And then what will happen after that? - 20/01/2010 10:35:46 PM 1347 Views
It would mean, effectively, that Congress controls the domestic agenda and Hillary foreign affairs. - 20/01/2010 10:52:24 PM 1020 Views
That's kind of ironic... - 20/01/2010 11:15:05 PM 1346 Views
And condemn more people to untimely deaths? - 20/01/2010 02:33:08 PM 1186 Views
Pity, that there is no government sanctioned murder of the stupid. - 20/01/2010 02:52:52 PM 1084 Views
I think the technical term is "dumbicide". - 20/01/2010 03:00:13 PM 1172 Views
Don't the Darwin Awards help with that? *NM* - 20/01/2010 03:50:37 PM 614 Views
Oh dear. - 20/01/2010 07:42:18 PM 1218 Views
Bah! - 20/01/2010 07:45:48 PM 1130 Views
The elderly, eh? Too bad we don't have a program for that. *NM* - 20/01/2010 03:01:40 PM 665 Views
They had their whole lives to save up! F*** 'em. *NM* - 22/01/2010 01:12:20 PM 822 Views
I thought it was time for another such celebration... - 20/01/2010 03:35:28 PM 1234 Views
That thud you heard was the lid dropping on the coffin - 20/01/2010 03:49:21 PM 1208 Views
True, but it is now finally DEAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! - 21/01/2010 01:08:12 AM 1190 Views
I keep thinking this thread title says, "BROWNS WIN!" - 21/01/2010 02:21:24 PM 1126 Views
Lack of Health Care Reform means American Wage Stagnation - 21/01/2010 06:38:11 PM 1324 Views

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