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agreed... somewhat. lil lady Send a noteboard - 27/01/2010 05:52:26 PM
because it puts a face and a name to the debate. By many accounts, Tim wouldn't even exist...because his mother's doctors regarded him as nothing important. They were willing to get rid of him based upon...opinion?

If she had caved into their opinions, he would be dead. Because of her regard for her son's life Tim lives. It is a fantastic message to share that his mother's love is *literally* why he lives.

~Jeordam


If she had "chosen" differently there would be no Tim. But the key word here is choice. Personally, if I got pregnant now (impossible cuz I'm fixed) I would keep the baby. I have two children now. But if my daughter gets pregnant as a teenager I want her to be able to choose what is right for her.
I'm still me.
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Anti-Abortion CBS Super Bowl commercial lil lady - 27/01/2010 05:35:37 PM 2095 Views
I think that its a fantastic idea... Jeordam - 27/01/2010 05:46:17 PM 1452 Views
agreed... somewhat. lil lady - 27/01/2010 05:52:26 PM 1415 Views
See, that's the debate here... Jeordam - 27/01/2010 06:03:01 PM 1123 Views
depending on the developmental stage, an embryo might be nothign more than a clump of cells. LadyLorraine - 27/01/2010 07:18:25 PM 1077 Views
You make baby Allah cry. *NM* LiterateDog - 27/01/2010 07:58:01 PM 639 Views
was it the dog comparison? LadyLorraine - 27/01/2010 07:59:22 PM 1217 Views
Nah, Dog is God reversed, after all. LiterateDog - 27/01/2010 08:29:12 PM 1133 Views
parasites! parasites i say!!! LadyLorraine - 27/01/2010 08:37:53 PM 1162 Views
yeah except islam allows abortion in certain conditions Aisha - 28/01/2010 05:43:29 AM 1156 Views
Do those conditions include "I don't want a baby"? beckstcw - 28/01/2010 11:52:24 PM 1431 Views
some scholars say yes, some say no Aisha - 29/01/2010 05:51:18 AM 1275 Views
Shall we be technical.... Jeordam - 27/01/2010 09:28:20 PM 1151 Views
And since when are you a trained eye? LadyLorraine - 27/01/2010 09:52:05 PM 1270 Views
A valid question Jeordam - 27/01/2010 10:07:16 PM 1067 Views
Okay then, that's fair enough LadyLorraine - 27/01/2010 10:48:10 PM 1148 Views
If there's a chance the mother might die... LadyLorraine - 27/01/2010 07:30:54 PM 1153 Views
What if the "real" preson is an asshole? I'd gamble on the baby who has the potential to not be. Cannoli - 27/01/2010 08:44:57 PM 1172 Views
I wasn't commenting on the commercial, I did that further below. LadyLorraine - 27/01/2010 08:59:17 PM 1148 Views
Which is why I'm against elective abortion Jeordam - 27/01/2010 09:33:59 PM 1195 Views
Then we are in accord. LadyLorraine - 27/01/2010 10:00:32 PM 1175 Views
That works.... Jeordam - 27/01/2010 10:10:22 PM 1170 Views
And I think that is wonderful. LadyLorraine - 27/01/2010 10:33:05 PM 1284 Views
I want to see an atheism Superbowl ad beetnemesis - 27/01/2010 06:21:02 PM 1271 Views
Re: I want to see an atheism Superbowl ad lil lady - 27/01/2010 06:35:30 PM 1299 Views
Go ahead and pay for one.... Jeordam - 27/01/2010 06:37:18 PM 1339 Views
beetnemesis - 27/01/2010 07:01:59 PM 1279 Views
at your Jeordam - 27/01/2010 07:03:39 PM 1155 Views
how does atheism take anything away? LadyLorraine - 27/01/2010 07:20:49 PM 1196 Views
Exactly Brian - 27/01/2010 07:29:49 PM 1069 Views
Smiles.... Jeordam - 27/01/2010 09:38:25 PM 1214 Views
just because you believe in god LadyLorraine - 27/01/2010 09:57:39 PM 1084 Views
losing, not loosing *NM* Brian - 27/01/2010 10:22:51 PM 651 Views
Re: Smiles.... lyringlas - 29/01/2010 09:03:48 PM 1154 Views
LOL It only "takes away" mental enslavement. LiterateDog - 27/01/2010 07:50:56 PM 1195 Views
Who says? Jeordam - 27/01/2010 09:42:07 PM 1164 Views
You're not "open" to anything. LiterateDog - 27/01/2010 10:02:03 PM 1283 Views
I don't need your sadness dude...or your pity. Jeordam - 27/01/2010 10:19:43 PM 1242 Views
Personally speaking Brian - 27/01/2010 10:36:45 PM 1111 Views
Although off topic that's exactly how I see it too. *NM* ironclad - 27/01/2010 10:43:49 PM 639 Views
But notice your perspective Brian... Jeordam - 27/01/2010 11:08:52 PM 1311 Views
Your argument assumes in the existance of the Christian God. LadyLorraine - 27/01/2010 11:28:16 PM 1204 Views
Because we're His children beckstcw - 28/01/2010 01:08:20 AM 1234 Views
My perspective as someone who is for the most part an Atheist? Brian - 28/01/2010 01:13:02 AM 1086 Views
You have a very odd and self-serving notion of what "open" is. LiterateDog - 28/01/2010 12:12:06 AM 4514 Views
Tolerance much? snoopcester - 27/01/2010 08:11:12 PM 1302 Views
I took care of that. LiterateDog - 27/01/2010 08:33:18 PM 1243 Views
Don't read an emotion into that I didn't put into it. Jeordam - 27/01/2010 09:44:37 PM 1020 Views
Oh, well there are examples. Google those ads I mentioned beetnemesis - 27/01/2010 11:24:10 PM 1010 Views
all athesim means is not believing in deities 9_9 LadyLorraine - 27/01/2010 11:30:37 PM 1047 Views
Your comment is rude and narrow minded. Regardless of what emotion you feel snoopcester - 28/01/2010 03:20:11 PM 1115 Views
Fortunately, positivity doesn't appear to be the qualifying characteristic Sareitha Sedai - 27/01/2010 08:26:28 PM 1178 Views
Well there is a difference between... Jeordam - 27/01/2010 09:47:36 PM 1363 Views
The fact is that it was a positive message, whether you agreed with it or not. Sareitha Sedai - 27/01/2010 09:52:47 PM 1155 Views
Says the Protestant. Ghavrel - 27/01/2010 11:22:05 PM 1154 Views
What is the UCC? *NM* Tashmere - 29/01/2010 02:59:07 AM 662 Views
United Church of Christ Sareitha Sedai - 29/01/2010 02:24:11 PM 1066 Views
I don't think it is the same thing random thoughts - 27/01/2010 07:17:19 PM 1099 Views
I wasn't making an argument- just that it'd be interesting beetnemesis - 27/01/2010 08:11:57 PM 1012 Views
that I can agree with random thoughts - 27/01/2010 08:27:30 PM 1061 Views
Re: I think that its a fantastic idea... callandor1000 - 28/01/2010 03:36:11 AM 1175 Views
Followed by an add of all the babies that should have been aborted? *NM* Helene - 29/01/2010 05:53:43 PM 639 Views
Hey whatever they want to pay for PhoenixReborn - 27/01/2010 05:52:11 PM 1241 Views
Hahahaha... I couldn't care less, but this line cracked me up beetnemesis - 27/01/2010 06:19:37 PM 1206 Views
wow...I didn't even think of that... Jeordam - 27/01/2010 06:39:04 PM 1199 Views
Heh. *NM* Tashmere - 28/01/2010 10:43:43 PM 656 Views
I think they need to treat all sides the same random thoughts - 27/01/2010 06:49:47 PM 1185 Views
agreed *NM* ironclad - 27/01/2010 07:15:48 PM 651 Views
this. *NM* Avendesora - 28/01/2010 01:33:01 AM 562 Views
whether you agree with Tebow or not... damookster - 27/01/2010 06:51:58 PM 1173 Views
I don't think there'd be a problem if it wasn't the Super Bowl LadyLorraine - 27/01/2010 07:35:18 PM 1199 Views
The problem is the hyprocrisy of CBS. LiterateDog - 27/01/2010 07:56:58 PM 1331 Views
Bingo. Sareitha Sedai - 27/01/2010 07:58:01 PM 906 Views
And they claim this is the result of you liberal types pissing and moaning. Cannoli - 27/01/2010 08:40:57 PM 1168 Views
Yeah, I'm sure that's it. LiterateDog - 27/01/2010 08:44:26 PM 999 Views
"the buggery agenda" LadyLorraine - 27/01/2010 08:47:28 PM 1218 Views
I know, I loved it! I might start using that instead of Fagenda. *NM* LiterateDog - 27/01/2010 09:03:53 PM 641 Views
You might need to rework titles too. "Most Buggered", "Her Buggerness" LadyLorraine - 27/01/2010 09:06:44 PM 1323 Views
this commercial is only a big deal to those Hobgoblin - 27/01/2010 07:59:27 PM 1231 Views
I really, really hope a pro-choice group buys the next ad space snoopcester - 27/01/2010 08:09:16 PM 1186 Views
Replace Hitler with Ben Affleck and I'd help pay for it. Brian - 27/01/2010 08:12:25 PM 1063 Views
that's funny enough it'd pay for itself LadyLorraine - 27/01/2010 08:13:31 PM 1162 Views
That would work also. The main thing is to pick someone who has committed crimes against humanity snoopcester - 28/01/2010 10:57:28 AM 955 Views
But how would you folks argue on the internet then? I'd still have Stalin... *NM* Cannoli - 27/01/2010 08:49:17 PM 619 Views
I'm sure people could think of something *NM* LadyLorraine - 27/01/2010 09:00:23 PM 508 Views
LMAO! that would be awesome *NM* Aisha - 28/01/2010 12:02:25 AM 654 Views
The funny thing is Sareitha Sedai - 27/01/2010 08:28:22 PM 1398 Views
Oh no you di'in't! Tigr - 27/01/2010 08:54:47 PM 947 Views
I had a similar thought... TaskmasterJack - 27/01/2010 10:17:15 PM 1178 Views
*NM* Avendesora - 28/01/2010 01:12:46 AM 585 Views
*brain explodes* Joel - 27/01/2010 08:30:51 PM 1007 Views
are your sinuses clear now? *NM* random thoughts - 27/01/2010 08:54:18 PM 601 Views
Oddly enough, they aren't. Joel - 27/01/2010 08:59:27 PM 1236 Views
thats what you get for living in the hill country random thoughts - 27/01/2010 09:10:09 PM 1010 Views
Not my idea, and I'm working on it. Joel - 28/01/2010 12:36:17 AM 1135 Views
the super bowl is no place for political messages, no matter how thinly veiled. moondog - 28/01/2010 05:15:13 AM 1046 Views
Are you saying that CBS should be required to run an opposing ad? *NM* beckstcw - 28/01/2010 05:19:39 AM 603 Views
if they are going to approve a political message, they should be required to air the opposite view moondog - 28/01/2010 05:27:33 AM 938 Views
I'm pretty strongly pro-choice and even I find that silly. *NM* Ghavrel - 28/01/2010 06:55:37 AM 663 Views
What kind of ad would they run in response? beckstcw - 28/01/2010 11:50:10 PM 1152 Views
more like.... moondog - 29/01/2010 03:20:24 AM 1329 Views
The problem with Pro-Choice is... Silence_DoGood - 28/01/2010 02:12:13 PM 1128 Views
Not really a fair comment snoopcester - 28/01/2010 02:44:21 PM 1088 Views
Re: Not really a fair comment Silence_DoGood - 28/01/2010 03:27:03 PM 1160 Views
I can't see Youtube at work and am out the next couple of nights so I can't see it till the weekend snoopcester - 28/01/2010 03:36:48 PM 940 Views
I know you were going to tell me that it was slanted... Silence_DoGood - 28/01/2010 03:57:37 PM 1180 Views
That is unfair on me snoopcester - 28/01/2010 04:18:07 PM 1238 Views
Sorry...wasn't trying to be unfair.... Silence_DoGood - 28/01/2010 04:34:18 PM 1137 Views
Apology accepted snoopcester - 28/01/2010 04:52:39 PM 974 Views
...which is yet another argument for publicly funded healthcare Floffe - 28/01/2010 03:46:25 PM 1087 Views
Re: ...which is yet another argument for publicly funded healthcare Silence_DoGood - 28/01/2010 04:03:46 PM 1191 Views
An unfortunate choice of words.... Jeordam - 28/01/2010 07:00:18 PM 974 Views
I don't think it's so much a matter of supplying misleading information, Rebekah - 28/01/2010 11:07:24 PM 1119 Views
Ah, snoopcester - 29/01/2010 02:51:22 PM 1113 Views
No. Rebekah - 29/01/2010 06:10:47 PM 1148 Views
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