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If there's a chance the mother might die... LadyLorraine Send a noteboard - 27/01/2010 07:30:54 PM
then you have to make a decision between the possibility to lose two people (one of whom is a fully developed person entrenched in society with relationships, personal history, etc...etc...) or only losing a mass of cells that there is no attachment to other than biological drive and "oh but what might have been!!"

So yes...the mother's decision allowed for "Tim" to be born. But what if she had died before carrying to term? his mother would have been gone and quite possibly Tim as well, leading to a more tragic ending.

There is too many factors to declare that abortion be declared illegal. The government should not demand people sacrifice their own health for the sake of an embryo. If a family wants to, that is their choice. If a family does not want to, it is their choice.

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Anti-Abortion CBS Super Bowl commercial - 27/01/2010 05:35:37 PM 2226 Views
I think that its a fantastic idea... - 27/01/2010 05:46:17 PM 1710 Views
agreed... somewhat. - 27/01/2010 05:52:26 PM 1648 Views
See, that's the debate here... - 27/01/2010 06:03:01 PM 1343 Views
depending on the developmental stage, an embryo might be nothign more than a clump of cells. - 27/01/2010 07:18:25 PM 1380 Views
You make baby Allah cry. *NM* - 27/01/2010 07:58:01 PM 720 Views
was it the dog comparison? - 27/01/2010 07:59:22 PM 1479 Views
Nah, Dog is God reversed, after all. - 27/01/2010 08:29:12 PM 1337 Views
parasites! parasites i say!!! - 27/01/2010 08:37:53 PM 1404 Views
yeah except islam allows abortion in certain conditions - 28/01/2010 05:43:29 AM 1381 Views
Do those conditions include "I don't want a baby"? - 28/01/2010 11:52:24 PM 1700 Views
some scholars say yes, some say no - 29/01/2010 05:51:18 AM 1503 Views
Shall we be technical.... - 27/01/2010 09:28:20 PM 1386 Views
And since when are you a trained eye? - 27/01/2010 09:52:05 PM 1540 Views
A valid question - 27/01/2010 10:07:16 PM 1209 Views
Okay then, that's fair enough - 27/01/2010 10:48:10 PM 1380 Views
If there's a chance the mother might die... - 27/01/2010 07:30:54 PM 1345 Views
Which is why I'm against elective abortion - 27/01/2010 09:33:59 PM 1495 Views
Then we are in accord. - 27/01/2010 10:00:32 PM 1392 Views
That works.... - 27/01/2010 10:10:22 PM 1394 Views
And I think that is wonderful. - 27/01/2010 10:33:05 PM 1510 Views
I want to see an atheism Superbowl ad - 27/01/2010 06:21:02 PM 1561 Views
Re: I want to see an atheism Superbowl ad - 27/01/2010 06:35:30 PM 1606 Views
Go ahead and pay for one.... - 27/01/2010 06:37:18 PM 1604 Views
- 27/01/2010 07:01:59 PM 1561 Views
at your - 27/01/2010 07:03:39 PM 1400 Views
how does atheism take anything away? - 27/01/2010 07:20:49 PM 1420 Views
Exactly - 27/01/2010 07:29:49 PM 1178 Views
Smiles.... - 27/01/2010 09:38:25 PM 1481 Views
just because you believe in god - 27/01/2010 09:57:39 PM 1305 Views
losing, not loosing *NM* - 27/01/2010 10:22:51 PM 749 Views
Re: Smiles.... - 29/01/2010 09:03:48 PM 1433 Views
LOL It only "takes away" mental enslavement. - 27/01/2010 07:50:56 PM 1414 Views
Who says? - 27/01/2010 09:42:07 PM 1380 Views
You're not "open" to anything. - 27/01/2010 10:02:03 PM 1520 Views
I don't need your sadness dude...or your pity. - 27/01/2010 10:19:43 PM 1527 Views
Personally speaking - 27/01/2010 10:36:45 PM 1232 Views
Although off topic that's exactly how I see it too. *NM* - 27/01/2010 10:43:49 PM 742 Views
But notice your perspective Brian... - 27/01/2010 11:08:52 PM 1533 Views
Your argument assumes in the existance of the Christian God. - 27/01/2010 11:28:16 PM 1480 Views
Because we're His children - 28/01/2010 01:08:20 AM 1492 Views
My perspective as someone who is for the most part an Atheist? - 28/01/2010 01:13:02 AM 1344 Views
You have a very odd and self-serving notion of what "open" is. - 28/01/2010 12:12:06 AM 4734 Views
Tolerance much? - 27/01/2010 08:11:12 PM 1585 Views
I took care of that. - 27/01/2010 08:33:18 PM 1503 Views
Don't read an emotion into that I didn't put into it. - 27/01/2010 09:44:37 PM 1247 Views
Oh, well there are examples. Google those ads I mentioned - 27/01/2010 11:24:10 PM 1238 Views
all athesim means is not believing in deities 9_9 - 27/01/2010 11:30:37 PM 1275 Views
Your comment is rude and narrow minded. Regardless of what emotion you feel - 28/01/2010 03:20:11 PM 1297 Views
Fortunately, positivity doesn't appear to be the qualifying characteristic - 27/01/2010 08:26:28 PM 1458 Views
Well there is a difference between... - 27/01/2010 09:47:36 PM 1641 Views
The fact is that it was a positive message, whether you agreed with it or not. - 27/01/2010 09:52:47 PM 1374 Views
Says the Protestant. - 27/01/2010 11:22:05 PM 1373 Views
What is the UCC? *NM* - 29/01/2010 02:59:07 AM 765 Views
United Church of Christ - 29/01/2010 02:24:11 PM 1291 Views
I don't think it is the same thing - 27/01/2010 07:17:19 PM 1371 Views
I wasn't making an argument- just that it'd be interesting - 27/01/2010 08:11:57 PM 1241 Views
that I can agree with - 27/01/2010 08:27:30 PM 1218 Views
Re: I think that its a fantastic idea... - 28/01/2010 03:36:11 AM 1446 Views
Hey whatever they want to pay for - 27/01/2010 05:52:11 PM 1459 Views
Hahahaha... I couldn't care less, but this line cracked me up - 27/01/2010 06:19:37 PM 1448 Views
wow...I didn't even think of that... - 27/01/2010 06:39:04 PM 1462 Views
Heh. *NM* - 28/01/2010 10:43:43 PM 741 Views
I think they need to treat all sides the same - 27/01/2010 06:49:47 PM 1448 Views
agreed *NM* - 27/01/2010 07:15:48 PM 752 Views
this. *NM* - 28/01/2010 01:33:01 AM 632 Views
whether you agree with Tebow or not... - 27/01/2010 06:51:58 PM 1287 Views
I don't think there'd be a problem if it wasn't the Super Bowl - 27/01/2010 07:35:18 PM 1488 Views
The problem is the hyprocrisy of CBS. - 27/01/2010 07:56:58 PM 1605 Views
Bingo. - 27/01/2010 07:58:01 PM 1020 Views
And they claim this is the result of you liberal types pissing and moaning. - 27/01/2010 08:40:57 PM 1430 Views
Yeah, I'm sure that's it. - 27/01/2010 08:44:26 PM 1239 Views
"the buggery agenda" - 27/01/2010 08:47:28 PM 1489 Views
I know, I loved it! I might start using that instead of Fagenda. *NM* - 27/01/2010 09:03:53 PM 726 Views
You might need to rework titles too. "Most Buggered", "Her Buggerness" - 27/01/2010 09:06:44 PM 1589 Views
this commercial is only a big deal to those - 27/01/2010 07:59:27 PM 1455 Views
I really, really hope a pro-choice group buys the next ad space - 27/01/2010 08:09:16 PM 1300 Views
Replace Hitler with Ben Affleck and I'd help pay for it. - 27/01/2010 08:12:25 PM 1321 Views
that's funny enough it'd pay for itself - 27/01/2010 08:13:31 PM 1447 Views
But how would you folks argue on the internet then? I'd still have Stalin... *NM* - 27/01/2010 08:49:17 PM 714 Views
I'm sure people could think of something *NM* - 27/01/2010 09:00:23 PM 605 Views
LMAO! that would be awesome *NM* - 28/01/2010 12:02:25 AM 747 Views
The funny thing is - 27/01/2010 08:28:22 PM 1671 Views
Oh no you di'in't! - 27/01/2010 08:54:47 PM 1155 Views
I had a similar thought... - 27/01/2010 10:17:15 PM 1448 Views
*NM* - 28/01/2010 01:12:46 AM 689 Views
*brain explodes* - 27/01/2010 08:30:51 PM 1196 Views
are your sinuses clear now? *NM* - 27/01/2010 08:54:18 PM 694 Views
Oddly enough, they aren't. - 27/01/2010 08:59:27 PM 1498 Views
thats what you get for living in the hill country - 27/01/2010 09:10:09 PM 1129 Views
Not my idea, and I'm working on it. - 28/01/2010 12:36:17 AM 1345 Views
the super bowl is no place for political messages, no matter how thinly veiled. - 28/01/2010 05:15:13 AM 1257 Views
Are you saying that CBS should be required to run an opposing ad? *NM* - 28/01/2010 05:19:39 AM 711 Views
if they are going to approve a political message, they should be required to air the opposite view - 28/01/2010 05:27:33 AM 1060 Views
I'm pretty strongly pro-choice and even I find that silly. *NM* - 28/01/2010 06:55:37 AM 757 Views
What kind of ad would they run in response? - 28/01/2010 11:50:10 PM 1408 Views
more like.... - 29/01/2010 03:20:24 AM 1605 Views
The problem with Pro-Choice is... - 28/01/2010 02:12:13 PM 1347 Views
Not really a fair comment - 28/01/2010 02:44:21 PM 1266 Views
Re: Not really a fair comment - 28/01/2010 03:27:03 PM 1284 Views
I can't see Youtube at work and am out the next couple of nights so I can't see it till the weekend - 28/01/2010 03:36:48 PM 1116 Views
I know you were going to tell me that it was slanted... - 28/01/2010 03:57:37 PM 1411 Views
That is unfair on me - 28/01/2010 04:18:07 PM 1506 Views
Sorry...wasn't trying to be unfair.... - 28/01/2010 04:34:18 PM 1326 Views
Apology accepted - 28/01/2010 04:52:39 PM 1194 Views
...which is yet another argument for publicly funded healthcare - 28/01/2010 03:46:25 PM 1363 Views
Re: ...which is yet another argument for publicly funded healthcare - 28/01/2010 04:03:46 PM 1480 Views
An unfortunate choice of words.... - 28/01/2010 07:00:18 PM 1140 Views
I don't think it's so much a matter of supplying misleading information, - 28/01/2010 11:07:24 PM 1398 Views
Ah, - 29/01/2010 02:51:22 PM 1337 Views
No. - 29/01/2010 06:10:47 PM 1329 Views

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