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Well there is a difference between... Jeordam Send a noteboard - 27/01/2010 09:47:36 PM
After all that whining about those bus ads a while back, this would be great.


It would be interesting to see someone try and spin an atheism message as being positive, when at its very core all it does it take away...

~Jeordam


Or the UCC ad would have been allowed ;)



positivity & well, being disruptive. The UCC has a long standing history of ascribing to beliefs/viewpoints that run counter culture to not only the Christian church as a whole, but the very theology that is supposed to be the basis of their faith. Their ad was at its very core, self-serving & divisive. Tim's ad with his mother is neither.

~Jeordam
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Saving the Princess, Humanity, or the World-Entire since 1985
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Anti-Abortion CBS Super Bowl commercial lil lady - 27/01/2010 05:35:37 PM 2271 Views
I think that its a fantastic idea... Jeordam - 27/01/2010 05:46:17 PM 1786 Views
agreed... somewhat. lil lady - 27/01/2010 05:52:26 PM 1713 Views
See, that's the debate here... Jeordam - 27/01/2010 06:03:01 PM 1399 Views
depending on the developmental stage, an embryo might be nothign more than a clump of cells. LadyLorraine - 27/01/2010 07:18:25 PM 1458 Views
You make baby Allah cry. *NM* LiterateDog - 27/01/2010 07:58:01 PM 745 Views
was it the dog comparison? LadyLorraine - 27/01/2010 07:59:22 PM 1555 Views
Nah, Dog is God reversed, after all. LiterateDog - 27/01/2010 08:29:12 PM 1392 Views
parasites! parasites i say!!! LadyLorraine - 27/01/2010 08:37:53 PM 1457 Views
yeah except islam allows abortion in certain conditions Aisha - 28/01/2010 05:43:29 AM 1441 Views
Do those conditions include "I don't want a baby"? beckstcw - 28/01/2010 11:52:24 PM 1783 Views
some scholars say yes, some say no Aisha - 29/01/2010 05:51:18 AM 1559 Views
Shall we be technical.... Jeordam - 27/01/2010 09:28:20 PM 1448 Views
And since when are you a trained eye? LadyLorraine - 27/01/2010 09:52:05 PM 1620 Views
A valid question Jeordam - 27/01/2010 10:07:16 PM 1250 Views
Okay then, that's fair enough LadyLorraine - 27/01/2010 10:48:10 PM 1451 Views
If there's a chance the mother might die... LadyLorraine - 27/01/2010 07:30:54 PM 1398 Views
What if the "real" preson is an asshole? I'd gamble on the baby who has the potential to not be. Cannoli - 27/01/2010 08:44:57 PM 1581 Views
I wasn't commenting on the commercial, I did that further below. LadyLorraine - 27/01/2010 08:59:17 PM 1465 Views
Which is why I'm against elective abortion Jeordam - 27/01/2010 09:33:59 PM 1579 Views
Then we are in accord. LadyLorraine - 27/01/2010 10:00:32 PM 1452 Views
That works.... Jeordam - 27/01/2010 10:10:22 PM 1456 Views
And I think that is wonderful. LadyLorraine - 27/01/2010 10:33:05 PM 1580 Views
I want to see an atheism Superbowl ad beetnemesis - 27/01/2010 06:21:02 PM 1631 Views
Re: I want to see an atheism Superbowl ad lil lady - 27/01/2010 06:35:30 PM 1680 Views
Go ahead and pay for one.... Jeordam - 27/01/2010 06:37:18 PM 1676 Views
beetnemesis - 27/01/2010 07:01:59 PM 1643 Views
at your Jeordam - 27/01/2010 07:03:39 PM 1459 Views
how does atheism take anything away? LadyLorraine - 27/01/2010 07:20:49 PM 1492 Views
Exactly Brian - 27/01/2010 07:29:49 PM 1224 Views
Smiles.... Jeordam - 27/01/2010 09:38:25 PM 1559 Views
just because you believe in god LadyLorraine - 27/01/2010 09:57:39 PM 1383 Views
losing, not loosing *NM* Brian - 27/01/2010 10:22:51 PM 773 Views
Re: Smiles.... lyringlas - 29/01/2010 09:03:48 PM 1505 Views
LOL It only "takes away" mental enslavement. LiterateDog - 27/01/2010 07:50:56 PM 1479 Views
Who says? Jeordam - 27/01/2010 09:42:07 PM 1453 Views
You're not "open" to anything. LiterateDog - 27/01/2010 10:02:03 PM 1588 Views
I don't need your sadness dude...or your pity. Jeordam - 27/01/2010 10:19:43 PM 1608 Views
Personally speaking Brian - 27/01/2010 10:36:45 PM 1273 Views
Although off topic that's exactly how I see it too. *NM* ironclad - 27/01/2010 10:43:49 PM 766 Views
But notice your perspective Brian... Jeordam - 27/01/2010 11:08:52 PM 1597 Views
Your argument assumes in the existance of the Christian God. LadyLorraine - 27/01/2010 11:28:16 PM 1556 Views
Because we're His children beckstcw - 28/01/2010 01:08:20 AM 1564 Views
My perspective as someone who is for the most part an Atheist? Brian - 28/01/2010 01:13:02 AM 1422 Views
You have a very odd and self-serving notion of what "open" is. LiterateDog - 28/01/2010 12:12:06 AM 4799 Views
Tolerance much? snoopcester - 27/01/2010 08:11:12 PM 1679 Views
I took care of that. LiterateDog - 27/01/2010 08:33:18 PM 1575 Views
Don't read an emotion into that I didn't put into it. Jeordam - 27/01/2010 09:44:37 PM 1312 Views
Oh, well there are examples. Google those ads I mentioned beetnemesis - 27/01/2010 11:24:10 PM 1299 Views
all athesim means is not believing in deities 9_9 LadyLorraine - 27/01/2010 11:30:37 PM 1332 Views
Your comment is rude and narrow minded. Regardless of what emotion you feel snoopcester - 28/01/2010 03:20:11 PM 1349 Views
Fortunately, positivity doesn't appear to be the qualifying characteristic Sareitha Sedai - 27/01/2010 08:26:28 PM 1525 Views
Well there is a difference between... Jeordam - 27/01/2010 09:47:36 PM 1741 Views
The fact is that it was a positive message, whether you agreed with it or not. Sareitha Sedai - 27/01/2010 09:52:47 PM 1437 Views
Says the Protestant. Ghavrel - 27/01/2010 11:22:05 PM 1438 Views
What is the UCC? *NM* Tashmere - 29/01/2010 02:59:07 AM 804 Views
United Church of Christ Sareitha Sedai - 29/01/2010 02:24:11 PM 1345 Views
I don't think it is the same thing random thoughts - 27/01/2010 07:17:19 PM 1445 Views
I wasn't making an argument- just that it'd be interesting beetnemesis - 27/01/2010 08:11:57 PM 1301 Views
that I can agree with random thoughts - 27/01/2010 08:27:30 PM 1275 Views
Re: I think that its a fantastic idea... callandor1000 - 28/01/2010 03:36:11 AM 1522 Views
Followed by an add of all the babies that should have been aborted? *NM* Helene - 29/01/2010 05:53:43 PM 727 Views
Hey whatever they want to pay for PhoenixReborn - 27/01/2010 05:52:11 PM 1533 Views
Hahahaha... I couldn't care less, but this line cracked me up beetnemesis - 27/01/2010 06:19:37 PM 1515 Views
wow...I didn't even think of that... Jeordam - 27/01/2010 06:39:04 PM 1557 Views
Heh. *NM* Tashmere - 28/01/2010 10:43:43 PM 768 Views
I think they need to treat all sides the same random thoughts - 27/01/2010 06:49:47 PM 1525 Views
agreed *NM* ironclad - 27/01/2010 07:15:48 PM 779 Views
this. *NM* Avendesora - 28/01/2010 01:33:01 AM 660 Views
whether you agree with Tebow or not... damookster - 27/01/2010 06:51:58 PM 1326 Views
I don't think there'd be a problem if it wasn't the Super Bowl LadyLorraine - 27/01/2010 07:35:18 PM 1560 Views
The problem is the hyprocrisy of CBS. LiterateDog - 27/01/2010 07:56:58 PM 1678 Views
Bingo. Sareitha Sedai - 27/01/2010 07:58:01 PM 1061 Views
And they claim this is the result of you liberal types pissing and moaning. Cannoli - 27/01/2010 08:40:57 PM 1502 Views
Yeah, I'm sure that's it. LiterateDog - 27/01/2010 08:44:26 PM 1295 Views
"the buggery agenda" LadyLorraine - 27/01/2010 08:47:28 PM 1561 Views
I know, I loved it! I might start using that instead of Fagenda. *NM* LiterateDog - 27/01/2010 09:03:53 PM 754 Views
You might need to rework titles too. "Most Buggered", "Her Buggerness" LadyLorraine - 27/01/2010 09:06:44 PM 1663 Views
this commercial is only a big deal to those Hobgoblin - 27/01/2010 07:59:27 PM 1509 Views
I really, really hope a pro-choice group buys the next ad space snoopcester - 27/01/2010 08:09:16 PM 1338 Views
Replace Hitler with Ben Affleck and I'd help pay for it. Brian - 27/01/2010 08:12:25 PM 1389 Views
that's funny enough it'd pay for itself LadyLorraine - 27/01/2010 08:13:31 PM 1526 Views
That would work also. The main thing is to pick someone who has committed crimes against humanity snoopcester - 28/01/2010 10:57:28 AM 1252 Views
But how would you folks argue on the internet then? I'd still have Stalin... *NM* Cannoli - 27/01/2010 08:49:17 PM 737 Views
I'm sure people could think of something *NM* LadyLorraine - 27/01/2010 09:00:23 PM 628 Views
LMAO! that would be awesome *NM* Aisha - 28/01/2010 12:02:25 AM 774 Views
The funny thing is Sareitha Sedai - 27/01/2010 08:28:22 PM 1745 Views
Oh no you di'in't! Tigr - 27/01/2010 08:54:47 PM 1221 Views
I had a similar thought... TaskmasterJack - 27/01/2010 10:17:15 PM 1521 Views
*NM* Avendesora - 28/01/2010 01:12:46 AM 712 Views
*brain explodes* Joel - 27/01/2010 08:30:51 PM 1249 Views
are your sinuses clear now? *NM* random thoughts - 27/01/2010 08:54:18 PM 715 Views
Oddly enough, they aren't. Joel - 27/01/2010 08:59:27 PM 1569 Views
thats what you get for living in the hill country random thoughts - 27/01/2010 09:10:09 PM 1172 Views
Not my idea, and I'm working on it. Joel - 28/01/2010 12:36:17 AM 1411 Views
the super bowl is no place for political messages, no matter how thinly veiled. moondog - 28/01/2010 05:15:13 AM 1319 Views
Are you saying that CBS should be required to run an opposing ad? *NM* beckstcw - 28/01/2010 05:19:39 AM 739 Views
if they are going to approve a political message, they should be required to air the opposite view moondog - 28/01/2010 05:27:33 AM 1120 Views
I'm pretty strongly pro-choice and even I find that silly. *NM* Ghavrel - 28/01/2010 06:55:37 AM 783 Views
What kind of ad would they run in response? beckstcw - 28/01/2010 11:50:10 PM 1464 Views
more like.... moondog - 29/01/2010 03:20:24 AM 1678 Views
The problem with Pro-Choice is... Silence_DoGood - 28/01/2010 02:12:13 PM 1405 Views
Not really a fair comment snoopcester - 28/01/2010 02:44:21 PM 1316 Views
Re: Not really a fair comment Silence_DoGood - 28/01/2010 03:27:03 PM 1337 Views
I can't see Youtube at work and am out the next couple of nights so I can't see it till the weekend snoopcester - 28/01/2010 03:36:48 PM 1167 Views
I know you were going to tell me that it was slanted... Silence_DoGood - 28/01/2010 03:57:37 PM 1476 Views
That is unfair on me snoopcester - 28/01/2010 04:18:07 PM 1574 Views
Sorry...wasn't trying to be unfair.... Silence_DoGood - 28/01/2010 04:34:18 PM 1374 Views
Apology accepted snoopcester - 28/01/2010 04:52:39 PM 1257 Views
...which is yet another argument for publicly funded healthcare Floffe - 28/01/2010 03:46:25 PM 1447 Views
Re: ...which is yet another argument for publicly funded healthcare Silence_DoGood - 28/01/2010 04:03:46 PM 1553 Views
An unfortunate choice of words.... Jeordam - 28/01/2010 07:00:18 PM 1201 Views
I don't think it's so much a matter of supplying misleading information, Rebekah - 28/01/2010 11:07:24 PM 1468 Views
Ah, snoopcester - 29/01/2010 02:51:22 PM 1402 Views
No. Rebekah - 29/01/2010 06:10:47 PM 1382 Views
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