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That works.... Jeordam Send a noteboard - 27/01/2010 10:10:22 PM
I did not know the specifics of Tim's mother's medical status. I was simply using the given example. My bad.

In my mind, the only good reasons for an abortion is medical risk and rape. And I'm sure you'll disagree with me about the rape, but neither of us will convince the other, so I don't see much point in railing about it ;)


because if we were going to use the rape scenerio...then I wouldn't be here typing to you. My own mother was told that I wasn't a "real" child, because of the circumstances that lead to me being conceived. Thankfully enough, she realized that it wasn't me that raped her, that wronged her, or that somehow ruined those years of her life.

Instead it was her loving me, and me loving her back that helped her get through that time.

~Jeordam
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Saving the Princess, Humanity, or the World-Entire since 1985
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Anti-Abortion CBS Super Bowl commercial lil lady - 27/01/2010 05:35:37 PM 2072 Views
I think that its a fantastic idea... Jeordam - 27/01/2010 05:46:17 PM 1393 Views
agreed... somewhat. lil lady - 27/01/2010 05:52:26 PM 1369 Views
See, that's the debate here... Jeordam - 27/01/2010 06:03:01 PM 1077 Views
depending on the developmental stage, an embryo might be nothign more than a clump of cells. LadyLorraine - 27/01/2010 07:18:25 PM 1018 Views
You make baby Allah cry. *NM* LiterateDog - 27/01/2010 07:58:01 PM 620 Views
was it the dog comparison? LadyLorraine - 27/01/2010 07:59:22 PM 1164 Views
Nah, Dog is God reversed, after all. LiterateDog - 27/01/2010 08:29:12 PM 1088 Views
parasites! parasites i say!!! LadyLorraine - 27/01/2010 08:37:53 PM 1122 Views
yeah except islam allows abortion in certain conditions Aisha - 28/01/2010 05:43:29 AM 1110 Views
Do those conditions include "I don't want a baby"? beckstcw - 28/01/2010 11:52:24 PM 1375 Views
some scholars say yes, some say no Aisha - 29/01/2010 05:51:18 AM 1224 Views
Shall we be technical.... Jeordam - 27/01/2010 09:28:20 PM 1105 Views
And since when are you a trained eye? LadyLorraine - 27/01/2010 09:52:05 PM 1220 Views
A valid question Jeordam - 27/01/2010 10:07:16 PM 1039 Views
Okay then, that's fair enough LadyLorraine - 27/01/2010 10:48:10 PM 1098 Views
If there's a chance the mother might die... LadyLorraine - 27/01/2010 07:30:54 PM 1118 Views
What if the "real" preson is an asshole? I'd gamble on the baby who has the potential to not be. Cannoli - 27/01/2010 08:44:57 PM 1120 Views
I wasn't commenting on the commercial, I did that further below. LadyLorraine - 27/01/2010 08:59:17 PM 1099 Views
Which is why I'm against elective abortion Jeordam - 27/01/2010 09:33:59 PM 1139 Views
Then we are in accord. LadyLorraine - 27/01/2010 10:00:32 PM 1122 Views
That works.... Jeordam - 27/01/2010 10:10:22 PM 1126 Views
And I think that is wonderful. LadyLorraine - 27/01/2010 10:33:05 PM 1232 Views
I want to see an atheism Superbowl ad beetnemesis - 27/01/2010 06:21:02 PM 1207 Views
Re: I want to see an atheism Superbowl ad lil lady - 27/01/2010 06:35:30 PM 1233 Views
Go ahead and pay for one.... Jeordam - 27/01/2010 06:37:18 PM 1288 Views
beetnemesis - 27/01/2010 07:01:59 PM 1216 Views
at your Jeordam - 27/01/2010 07:03:39 PM 1107 Views
how does atheism take anything away? LadyLorraine - 27/01/2010 07:20:49 PM 1147 Views
Exactly Brian - 27/01/2010 07:29:49 PM 1042 Views
Smiles.... Jeordam - 27/01/2010 09:38:25 PM 1152 Views
just because you believe in god LadyLorraine - 27/01/2010 09:57:39 PM 1039 Views
losing, not loosing *NM* Brian - 27/01/2010 10:22:51 PM 629 Views
Re: Smiles.... lyringlas - 29/01/2010 09:03:48 PM 1099 Views
LOL It only "takes away" mental enslavement. LiterateDog - 27/01/2010 07:50:56 PM 1137 Views
Who says? Jeordam - 27/01/2010 09:42:07 PM 1120 Views
You're not "open" to anything. LiterateDog - 27/01/2010 10:02:03 PM 1241 Views
I don't need your sadness dude...or your pity. Jeordam - 27/01/2010 10:19:43 PM 1179 Views
Personally speaking Brian - 27/01/2010 10:36:45 PM 1091 Views
Although off topic that's exactly how I see it too. *NM* ironclad - 27/01/2010 10:43:49 PM 623 Views
But notice your perspective Brian... Jeordam - 27/01/2010 11:08:52 PM 1261 Views
Your argument assumes in the existance of the Christian God. LadyLorraine - 27/01/2010 11:28:16 PM 1139 Views
Because we're His children beckstcw - 28/01/2010 01:08:20 AM 1183 Views
My perspective as someone who is for the most part an Atheist? Brian - 28/01/2010 01:13:02 AM 1041 Views
You have a very odd and self-serving notion of what "open" is. LiterateDog - 28/01/2010 12:12:06 AM 4465 Views
Tolerance much? snoopcester - 27/01/2010 08:11:12 PM 1245 Views
I took care of that. LiterateDog - 27/01/2010 08:33:18 PM 1186 Views
Don't read an emotion into that I didn't put into it. Jeordam - 27/01/2010 09:44:37 PM 974 Views
Oh, well there are examples. Google those ads I mentioned beetnemesis - 27/01/2010 11:24:10 PM 966 Views
all athesim means is not believing in deities 9_9 LadyLorraine - 27/01/2010 11:30:37 PM 996 Views
Your comment is rude and narrow minded. Regardless of what emotion you feel snoopcester - 28/01/2010 03:20:11 PM 1078 Views
Fortunately, positivity doesn't appear to be the qualifying characteristic Sareitha Sedai - 27/01/2010 08:26:28 PM 1120 Views
Well there is a difference between... Jeordam - 27/01/2010 09:47:36 PM 1307 Views
The fact is that it was a positive message, whether you agreed with it or not. Sareitha Sedai - 27/01/2010 09:52:47 PM 1109 Views
Says the Protestant. Ghavrel - 27/01/2010 11:22:05 PM 1112 Views
What is the UCC? *NM* Tashmere - 29/01/2010 02:59:07 AM 638 Views
United Church of Christ Sareitha Sedai - 29/01/2010 02:24:11 PM 1014 Views
I don't think it is the same thing random thoughts - 27/01/2010 07:17:19 PM 1043 Views
I wasn't making an argument- just that it'd be interesting beetnemesis - 27/01/2010 08:11:57 PM 967 Views
that I can agree with random thoughts - 27/01/2010 08:27:30 PM 1022 Views
Re: I think that its a fantastic idea... callandor1000 - 28/01/2010 03:36:11 AM 1118 Views
Followed by an add of all the babies that should have been aborted? *NM* Helene - 29/01/2010 05:53:43 PM 628 Views
Hey whatever they want to pay for PhoenixReborn - 27/01/2010 05:52:11 PM 1199 Views
Hahahaha... I couldn't care less, but this line cracked me up beetnemesis - 27/01/2010 06:19:37 PM 1162 Views
wow...I didn't even think of that... Jeordam - 27/01/2010 06:39:04 PM 1136 Views
Heh. *NM* Tashmere - 28/01/2010 10:43:43 PM 637 Views
I think they need to treat all sides the same random thoughts - 27/01/2010 06:49:47 PM 1134 Views
agreed *NM* ironclad - 27/01/2010 07:15:48 PM 628 Views
this. *NM* Avendesora - 28/01/2010 01:33:01 AM 549 Views
whether you agree with Tebow or not... damookster - 27/01/2010 06:51:58 PM 1155 Views
I don't think there'd be a problem if it wasn't the Super Bowl LadyLorraine - 27/01/2010 07:35:18 PM 1144 Views
The problem is the hyprocrisy of CBS. LiterateDog - 27/01/2010 07:56:58 PM 1273 Views
Bingo. Sareitha Sedai - 27/01/2010 07:58:01 PM 888 Views
And they claim this is the result of you liberal types pissing and moaning. Cannoli - 27/01/2010 08:40:57 PM 1109 Views
Yeah, I'm sure that's it. LiterateDog - 27/01/2010 08:44:26 PM 953 Views
"the buggery agenda" LadyLorraine - 27/01/2010 08:47:28 PM 1160 Views
I know, I loved it! I might start using that instead of Fagenda. *NM* LiterateDog - 27/01/2010 09:03:53 PM 626 Views
You might need to rework titles too. "Most Buggered", "Her Buggerness" LadyLorraine - 27/01/2010 09:06:44 PM 1262 Views
this commercial is only a big deal to those Hobgoblin - 27/01/2010 07:59:27 PM 1179 Views
I really, really hope a pro-choice group buys the next ad space snoopcester - 27/01/2010 08:09:16 PM 1158 Views
Replace Hitler with Ben Affleck and I'd help pay for it. Brian - 27/01/2010 08:12:25 PM 1008 Views
that's funny enough it'd pay for itself LadyLorraine - 27/01/2010 08:13:31 PM 1108 Views
That would work also. The main thing is to pick someone who has committed crimes against humanity snoopcester - 28/01/2010 10:57:28 AM 911 Views
But how would you folks argue on the internet then? I'd still have Stalin... *NM* Cannoli - 27/01/2010 08:49:17 PM 600 Views
I'm sure people could think of something *NM* LadyLorraine - 27/01/2010 09:00:23 PM 489 Views
LMAO! that would be awesome *NM* Aisha - 28/01/2010 12:02:25 AM 633 Views
The funny thing is Sareitha Sedai - 27/01/2010 08:28:22 PM 1341 Views
Oh no you di'in't! Tigr - 27/01/2010 08:54:47 PM 907 Views
I had a similar thought... TaskmasterJack - 27/01/2010 10:17:15 PM 1128 Views
*NM* Avendesora - 28/01/2010 01:12:46 AM 563 Views
*brain explodes* Joel - 27/01/2010 08:30:51 PM 971 Views
are your sinuses clear now? *NM* random thoughts - 27/01/2010 08:54:18 PM 582 Views
Oddly enough, they aren't. Joel - 27/01/2010 08:59:27 PM 1188 Views
thats what you get for living in the hill country random thoughts - 27/01/2010 09:10:09 PM 991 Views
Not my idea, and I'm working on it. Joel - 28/01/2010 12:36:17 AM 1093 Views
the super bowl is no place for political messages, no matter how thinly veiled. moondog - 28/01/2010 05:15:13 AM 1002 Views
Are you saying that CBS should be required to run an opposing ad? *NM* beckstcw - 28/01/2010 05:19:39 AM 581 Views
if they are going to approve a political message, they should be required to air the opposite view moondog - 28/01/2010 05:27:33 AM 908 Views
I'm pretty strongly pro-choice and even I find that silly. *NM* Ghavrel - 28/01/2010 06:55:37 AM 641 Views
What kind of ad would they run in response? beckstcw - 28/01/2010 11:50:10 PM 1110 Views
more like.... moondog - 29/01/2010 03:20:24 AM 1271 Views
The problem with Pro-Choice is... Silence_DoGood - 28/01/2010 02:12:13 PM 1085 Views
Not really a fair comment snoopcester - 28/01/2010 02:44:21 PM 1048 Views
Re: Not really a fair comment Silence_DoGood - 28/01/2010 03:27:03 PM 1141 Views
I can't see Youtube at work and am out the next couple of nights so I can't see it till the weekend snoopcester - 28/01/2010 03:36:48 PM 910 Views
I know you were going to tell me that it was slanted... Silence_DoGood - 28/01/2010 03:57:37 PM 1132 Views
That is unfair on me snoopcester - 28/01/2010 04:18:07 PM 1184 Views
Sorry...wasn't trying to be unfair.... Silence_DoGood - 28/01/2010 04:34:18 PM 1101 Views
Apology accepted snoopcester - 28/01/2010 04:52:39 PM 929 Views
...which is yet another argument for publicly funded healthcare Floffe - 28/01/2010 03:46:25 PM 1035 Views
Re: ...which is yet another argument for publicly funded healthcare Silence_DoGood - 28/01/2010 04:03:46 PM 1130 Views
An unfortunate choice of words.... Jeordam - 28/01/2010 07:00:18 PM 941 Views
I don't think it's so much a matter of supplying misleading information, Rebekah - 28/01/2010 11:07:24 PM 1064 Views
Ah, snoopcester - 29/01/2010 02:51:22 PM 1067 Views
No. Rebekah - 29/01/2010 06:10:47 PM 1116 Views
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