We're sorting of hitting the 'arguing about two seperate issues' point.
What I am saying is that the HDI is a fairly legit way to measure a country, but not to contrast to others as a means of fine comparison. In many ways it's basically worthless, because it's pretty obvious and unnecessary to compare dirt hovel places with western countries, and the western countries are simply too close to measure policy off of. You don't need the HDI, nor does it serve any useful purpose, if you're trying to show Country X has a superior literacy program to Country Y. The specific program itself can be used and really is the only useful standard. The thing is not accurate in that way, not to say 'Ah look, X had .01 higher on the HDI, let's assume that is a sign of superior policy' because it just isn't accurate enough.
I want to emphasize, yes, 1/3 can carry on beyond 1 digit, but only if it's been treated as a clean derivative. There has to be a justificaiton for that. 1/2mv^2 can easily be shown to be the integral of mv, the 1/2 comes from that, it is the clean byproduct of a mathematical equation, not a empirical result. It is not a coefficient that has simply been taken from the data, it is very specifically 1/2. Saying 1/3 for weighting is simply an unjustified assumption, unproven, therefore no more or less accurate than saying 1/3.0002 or 1/3.4. Does it make sense to equally weight them when no legitimate justification exists for more accurate weighting and they all seem very important? Yes, sure. But that doesn't mean it becomes highly accurate as a measure of anything but itself. And the more one tries to yank specific comparisons of policy out, the more one is subject to biased interpretations and corrections as well as giving people a big reason to try it. There are simply too many variables in it that have distortion or are distortable to compare, not only do you have the 'no more accurate than least accurate' problem but also that innaccuracies stack.
If I measure the momentum of object by it's mass and velocity, and each is only measurable to within 1%, the momentum isn't accurate to 1%, it's accurate to the range of the of their combined inaccuracy.
This isn't something subject to debate, the variables involved, while allowing for a decent measure of accuracy for HDI, do not allow the HDI to be used as a useful tool for comparison of policy. You are, I believe, trying to argue the accuracy of the HDI itself, I am arguing is accuracy as a useful index for comparison. There's no polite way to put this, but in this regard, I am right. There can be no argument without empirical proof that 1/3 is a more accurate value than 1/4 or .356, and no such empirical proof exists. As such a change in waiting would noticeably alter the rankings, the HDI can not possibly be considered anything but a loose benchmark, and therefore the ranking order as it is can not be used as a legitimate measure of policy between parallel entities.
What I am saying is that the HDI is a fairly legit way to measure a country, but not to contrast to others as a means of fine comparison. In many ways it's basically worthless, because it's pretty obvious and unnecessary to compare dirt hovel places with western countries, and the western countries are simply too close to measure policy off of. You don't need the HDI, nor does it serve any useful purpose, if you're trying to show Country X has a superior literacy program to Country Y. The specific program itself can be used and really is the only useful standard. The thing is not accurate in that way, not to say 'Ah look, X had .01 higher on the HDI, let's assume that is a sign of superior policy' because it just isn't accurate enough.
I want to emphasize, yes, 1/3 can carry on beyond 1 digit, but only if it's been treated as a clean derivative. There has to be a justificaiton for that. 1/2mv^2 can easily be shown to be the integral of mv, the 1/2 comes from that, it is the clean byproduct of a mathematical equation, not a empirical result. It is not a coefficient that has simply been taken from the data, it is very specifically 1/2. Saying 1/3 for weighting is simply an unjustified assumption, unproven, therefore no more or less accurate than saying 1/3.0002 or 1/3.4. Does it make sense to equally weight them when no legitimate justification exists for more accurate weighting and they all seem very important? Yes, sure. But that doesn't mean it becomes highly accurate as a measure of anything but itself. And the more one tries to yank specific comparisons of policy out, the more one is subject to biased interpretations and corrections as well as giving people a big reason to try it. There are simply too many variables in it that have distortion or are distortable to compare, not only do you have the 'no more accurate than least accurate' problem but also that innaccuracies stack.
If I measure the momentum of object by it's mass and velocity, and each is only measurable to within 1%, the momentum isn't accurate to 1%, it's accurate to the range of the of their combined inaccuracy.
This isn't something subject to debate, the variables involved, while allowing for a decent measure of accuracy for HDI, do not allow the HDI to be used as a useful tool for comparison of policy. You are, I believe, trying to argue the accuracy of the HDI itself, I am arguing is accuracy as a useful index for comparison. There's no polite way to put this, but in this regard, I am right. There can be no argument without empirical proof that 1/3 is a more accurate value than 1/4 or .356, and no such empirical proof exists. As such a change in waiting would noticeably alter the rankings, the HDI can not possibly be considered anything but a loose benchmark, and therefore the ranking order as it is can not be used as a legitimate measure of policy between parallel entities.
The intuitive mind is a sacred gift and the rational mind is a faithful servant. We have created a society that honors the servant and has forgotten the gift.
- Albert Einstein
King of Cairhien 20-7-2
Chancellor of the Landsraad, Archduke of Is'Mod
- Albert Einstein
King of Cairhien 20-7-2
Chancellor of the Landsraad, Archduke of Is'Mod
Why bipartisanship can't work: the expert view
- 01/02/2010 11:34:58 PM
984 Views
And a personal comment
- 01/02/2010 11:39:28 PM
718 Views
Who's to say YOU really know what's happening in Washington, though?
- 02/02/2010 01:41:20 AM
753 Views
not to mention those who mistake knowledge for understanding
- 02/02/2010 10:41:14 PM
568 Views
Even so.
- 05/02/2010 05:45:54 AM
612 Views
Like the NYT?
- 05/02/2010 02:12:36 PM
615 Views
I don't believe the Times has ever conceded bias.
- 05/02/2010 06:03:02 PM
637 Views
and neither does Fox so I am not sure that matters
- 05/02/2010 06:40:15 PM
693 Views
Note that I didn't mention Fox (or anyone, for that matter. )
- 05/02/2010 07:13:31 PM
614 Views
PBS is biased
- 05/02/2010 07:21:14 PM
592 Views
You're entitled to believe that.
- 05/02/2010 07:31:07 PM
739 Views
PBS has an obvious yet undeclared bias so does NPR
- 09/02/2010 04:47:53 AM
562 Views
Even were that true (which I dispute) my statement stands.
- 09/02/2010 09:50:36 AM
694 Views
so they wouldn't be biased becuas it could hurt them but you still argue republicans attack them
- 09/02/2010 02:19:53 PM
638 Views
We have been for some time.
- 02/02/2010 03:31:10 AM
653 Views
I don't think that's the case
- 03/02/2010 02:59:50 PM
598 Views
Universal healthcare was the primary plank in Clintons '92 platform.
- 04/02/2010 10:02:18 AM
592 Views
That does not mean his bare plurality was an endorsement of National Healthcare
- 04/02/2010 02:09:32 PM
694 Views
I don't think he won by default, and that was his primary issue.
- 05/02/2010 08:09:50 AM
746 Views
Re: I don't think he won by default, and that was his primary issue.
- 05/02/2010 03:52:23 PM
685 Views
[insert witty subject line here]
- 06/02/2010 02:15:21 AM
702 Views
Let me break this into multiple replies here
- 06/02/2010 07:45:36 PM
697 Views
'K
- 08/02/2010 01:22:12 PM
704 Views
Probably time to go into 'summary mode'
- 08/02/2010 07:34:55 PM
723 Views
Again, we're back to "how would you prefer to do it?"
- 09/02/2010 09:42:51 AM
721 Views
Any way that works, which currently probably is none
- 09/02/2010 06:12:41 PM
681 Views
I think HDI is more accurate than nothing, though it certainly needs some fine tuning.
- 10/02/2010 11:03:08 AM
746 Views
I'll play a bigger age card since it was my third election to vote in and he won because of Perot
- 05/02/2010 05:57:04 PM
585 Views
Let's put it another way: Why did Dems nominate him instead of, say, Gephardt?
- 06/02/2010 02:22:04 AM
679 Views
you don't get mandates from primaries
- 08/02/2010 02:12:29 PM
572 Views
No, but end of the day more people wanted healthcare than didn't.
- 08/02/2010 03:09:31 PM
593 Views
everyone want health care they just don't want congress runnig it
- 09/02/2010 04:56:44 AM
630 Views
Whom do you prefer?
- 09/02/2010 10:07:39 AM
665 Views
Sorry not a big fan of socialism I hear it big over in Europe though
- 09/02/2010 02:23:55 PM
557 Views
In other words you prefer the system we have; thanks for admitting it.
- 10/02/2010 10:05:38 AM
621 Views
- 10/02/2010 10:05:38 AM
621 Views
I prefer Thomas Woods Jr's description of bipartisanship
- 02/02/2010 02:49:06 AM
631 Views
If only someone had stood up on 8 December, 1941 and said, "hey, you're not supposed to do stuff!"
- 02/02/2010 03:28:38 AM
763 Views
you're making a good job taking things out of context, Joel
- 03/02/2010 12:47:57 PM
581 Views
Don't speak in absolutes and I won't read absolutes.
- 04/02/2010 10:08:43 AM
589 Views
Some qualifiers can be left unsaid for a clearer message. Or better delivery
- 04/02/2010 10:26:56 AM
590 Views
- 04/02/2010 10:26:56 AM
590 Views
Qualifiers are clarifying by nature.
- 04/02/2010 10:49:06 AM
706 Views
huh. That does make sense. I know malpractice is a big weight on the the system in the US.
- 04/02/2010 11:58:37 AM
559 Views
Perhaps, but it's hardly the greatest weight, or even in the top three, IMHO.
- 05/02/2010 05:44:49 AM
698 Views
Pearl Harbor would never have happened to a classically liberal nation
- 05/02/2010 01:33:56 AM
610 Views
Wow - that was a dumb statement even for you!
- 05/02/2010 04:22:59 PM
757 Views
I do generally agree, but I think the Washington Naval Conference is too often overlooked.
- 06/02/2010 02:33:51 AM
743 Views
Politicians and pundits should stop calling things that happened in the last decade "unprecedented"
- 02/02/2010 03:23:27 AM
822 Views
Or the democratic party has shifted so far to to the left they can't even get all of the dems
- 02/02/2010 02:39:14 PM
571 Views
You didn't hear all the whining when Bush was in charge with a Republican Congress?
- 02/02/2010 08:50:05 PM
584 Views
I there was plenty of whining going on
- 02/02/2010 10:36:56 PM
530 Views
Is this you conceding that the GOP is being obstructionist?
- 08/02/2010 01:43:04 PM
567 Views
I agree they are obstructing the libs from doing whatever they want
- 08/02/2010 02:19:13 PM
468 Views
They've tried including Republicans in drafting bills.
- 08/02/2010 03:08:17 PM
666 Views
tyring to pcik off one republican is not including republicans
- 09/02/2010 05:03:44 AM
583 Views
So we've gone from "stop being secretive" to "no public meetings" eh?
- 09/02/2010 11:59:50 AM
630 Views
well it was your guy who was up in arms about private meetings
- 09/02/2010 02:29:34 PM
592 Views
Was it? I don't recall any Dem complaining about private meeting on healthcare.
- 10/02/2010 09:44:56 AM
744 Views
most liberals seem to foretting the "rhetoric" that Obama used to get elected
- 13/02/2010 06:54:34 AM
569 Views

