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Doesn't matter Isaac Send a noteboard - 05/03/2010 04:22:19 AM
They've been convicted on evidence, they can appeal on evidence, they can be released on evidence, the burden of proof is never on them. Shit Happens, but you can also be struck by lightning and realistically your odds of being sentenced to death for a murder you didn't commit are on par with those. We don't deal with vagaries, we deal only with cases, individual cases, always, always, always individual cases.

As for humane treatment in prison, that is totally unrelated in every way from how many of them are innocent, prisoners are treated humanely because hurting them achieves little but the debasement of civilization. First and foremost prison exists to protect society, then to punish where such punishment might achieve something and is humane, never for it's own sake.

To release prisoners of a certain percent arbitrarily and unspecifically being innocent, one would have to justify conviction on those same grounds, if 25% innocent was good enough for release, would 50% of domestic abusers being murderers be grounds for imprisonment on murder?

This is a nonsensical and pointless rhetorical argument, irrelevant because conviction can only be done to an individual person on an individual case. If we found out 10% of DNA prints gave false answers, that's not grounds for release when 8% wouldn't be, it's grounds for appeal, nothing else.
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A level-of-comfort question regarding imprisonment of mixed innocent and guilty groups. - 05/03/2010 02:39:53 AM 328 Views
100% - 05/03/2010 03:47:31 AM 213 Views
Law of averages says there are certainly many innocent people in prison. - 05/03/2010 04:09:41 AM 198 Views
Doesn't matter - 05/03/2010 04:22:19 AM 189 Views
It does, in so far as it makes appeals a necessary option. - 05/03/2010 04:35:13 AM 190 Views
Did I say they weren't? - 05/03/2010 05:52:18 AM 219 Views
Nope. - 15/03/2010 06:14:33 AM 168 Views
You know Scalia said something like that last year - 05/03/2010 04:37:00 PM 196 Views
'Something'? Quotes are nice - 05/03/2010 05:07:00 PM 182 Views
Clarification: X% of them definitely did not meet the standards of reasonable doubt. - 05/03/2010 09:44:09 PM 172 Views
It's a pointless question - 06/03/2010 06:36:08 AM 173 Views
I never really liked silly questions like this - 05/03/2010 02:23:36 PM 206 Views
If there were 2,000,000 innocent and only 1 guilty, retrying everyone would not be practical. - 05/03/2010 09:22:16 PM 178 Views
That's silly though - 05/03/2010 09:39:53 PM 184 Views
Re: That's silly though - 05/03/2010 11:11:50 PM 193 Views
Re: That's silly though - 06/03/2010 12:11:06 AM 175 Views
Re: That's silly though - 06/03/2010 04:30:20 AM 168 Views
The answer is not "I don't know" it's - 07/03/2010 08:50:50 AM 168 Views
what does the chance of reoffending have to do with guilt? - 05/03/2010 10:02:21 PM 164 Views
Debt can be paid off, leaving the question of rehabilitation. *NM* - 05/03/2010 10:32:38 PM 67 Views
I still don't see the realtionship to guilt - 05/03/2010 10:59:28 PM 157 Views
Re: I still don't see the realtionship to guilt - 05/03/2010 11:31:51 PM 171 Views
there is a reason they call it the justice system and not the rehabilation system - 05/03/2010 11:33:55 PM 188 Views
It's called all kinds of things - 06/03/2010 12:02:00 AM 186 Views
Re: It's called all kinds of things - 06/03/2010 05:44:32 AM 176 Views
Well, we aren't going to agree at all (and I DID say it was opinion) - 07/03/2010 09:00:37 AM 150 Views
there is no perfect system - 05/03/2010 04:58:16 PM 182 Views
Reason Article inside - 05/03/2010 10:34:40 PM 213 Views

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