There is a military establishment with a serious amount of Kurdish blood on their hands, the result of a brutal military campaign much of the world is ignorant of (perhaps because American military equipment caused the bloodshed and Turkey is a "good NATO ally" ). They're not "good guys".
No, they most certainly aren't.
Then there's the AKP, which has Islamist roots, supports the theocracy in Iran and plays to base nationalist sentiment with anti-American statements and now with threats of ethnic cleansing. I don't see them as "good guys" either.
The AKP has its flaws - though I wouldn't count any of the things you just mentioned here among those - but then so does every political party. Obviously Turkey isn't quite as democratic as Western countries are, but considering the progress in that direction it has made under AKP leadership, I think they deserve to be cut a little slack. You can just take the petty but nicely simple and straightforward stance of saying "there are no good guys in Turkey" and loathing all of them, but then don't act so indignant when other people do the same regarding Russia.
Turkey threatens to expel 100,000 Armenians
- 17/03/2010 05:10:26 PM
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Why not let sleeping dogs lie?
- 17/03/2010 05:22:34 PM
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Erdogan is the Middle East's Chavez. *NM*
- 17/03/2010 06:38:00 PM
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I think Lieberman has the better claim there. *NM*
- 18/03/2010 03:39:29 AM
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Hardly. Lieberman makes sense
- 18/03/2010 05:34:43 PM
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I've read some articles saying otherwise.
- 18/03/2010 05:49:52 PM
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Torpedoing Biden's mission ? What a sad joke.
- 18/03/2010 06:22:37 PM
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Would you like to call it something else?
- 18/03/2010 06:26:34 PM
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Because Obama was looking for a way to get offended
- 18/03/2010 06:54:55 PM
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Your problem is that a "settlement freeze" doesn't impress anyone at all.
- 18/03/2010 07:16:55 PM
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Maybe we should just ask the Palestinians if we can keep Tel Aviv ?
- 18/03/2010 07:44:07 PM
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If you want anyone to be impressed, yes.
- 18/03/2010 09:03:11 PM
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How is it too much when there is a freeze ?
- 18/03/2010 09:22:03 PM
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You call this a freeze?
- 18/03/2010 09:43:52 PM
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Not your sourness silly. Obama's
- 18/03/2010 10:15:56 PM
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How long are supposed to stop building for?
- 18/03/2010 09:32:58 PM
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How about permanently? 
- 18/03/2010 09:50:46 PM
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- 18/03/2010 09:50:46 PM
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I don't think i agree that the condidtions for peace or that well known
- 19/03/2010 04:32:37 AM
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Major conditions
- 19/03/2010 09:59:37 AM
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Re: Major conditions
- 19/03/2010 01:26:54 PM
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Seriously, what conflict are you looking at?
- 19/03/2010 01:56:24 PM
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Re: Seriously, what conflict are you looking at?
- 19/03/2010 04:47:07 PM
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Ah, good point there... I was kinda thinking of the West.
- 19/03/2010 08:31:11 PM
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- 19/03/2010 08:31:11 PM
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well I wasn't talking about how anyone treated but who was making the decisions
- 19/03/2010 09:24:47 PM
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That really isn't a very useful observation at this point, though.
- 19/03/2010 09:32:30 PM
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Man, your analysis is weird
- 20/03/2010 11:24:40 AM
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I'm a bit confused what you're saying exactly...
- 20/03/2010 04:10:14 PM
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How so ?
- 20/03/2010 11:04:30 PM
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They don't exactly have much that they *can* give up.
- 19/03/2010 10:46:35 AM
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I don't want them to give up anything more then the violience
- 19/03/2010 01:55:51 PM
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That's simple enough: Israel is a first world state.
- 19/03/2010 02:13:17 PM
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It is pretty crude
- 17/03/2010 11:15:28 PM
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Why is recognizing a 100-year-old evil in his country's past "backing him into a corner"????
- 18/03/2010 11:41:05 AM
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The guy who has managed to face down one military coup from a sector that doesn't want it admitted?
- 18/03/2010 12:39:46 PM
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Why is it so hard for you people to see that the AKP are the "good guys" in Turkey?
- 18/03/2010 01:44:13 PM
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There are no "good guys" in Turkey, at least not in the government.
- 18/03/2010 01:57:44 PM
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Equating the two is ridiculous.
- 18/03/2010 02:13:37 PM
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My issues are not with a lack of democracy and I don't equate the AKP and the military
- 18/03/2010 02:35:00 PM
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So they respond to claims of genocide with threats of ethnic cleansing? Terrible. Just terrible.
- 18/03/2010 11:39:31 AM
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I agree. What they are doing now only makes things worse for them
- 18/03/2010 08:48:25 PM
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