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I've read some articles saying otherwise. Legolas Send a noteboard - 18/03/2010 05:49:52 PM
outside of the BBC and is not as influencial as Erdogan, hence deserves less scrutiny.

Or rather, that the unholy duo of Lieberman and Yishai has rather too much power over Netanyahu - like just now with the torpedoing of Biden's mission.

Other than that, Erdogan is a bit of an alpha male at times, but that's not too rare a trait in politics - it's perhaps a bit out of fashion what with leaders like Obama, Zapatero, Medvedev and of course Merkel dominating, but people like Sarkozy and Berlusconi still have it as well, and Erdogan certainly makes more sense than Berlusconi. :P

Seriously, the comparison to Chavez is utterly ridiculous.
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Turkey threatens to expel 100,000 Armenians everynametaken - 17/03/2010 05:10:26 PM 1046 Views
Why not let sleeping dogs lie? Talic - 17/03/2010 05:22:34 PM 521 Views
No Isaac - 17/03/2010 06:17:50 PM 506 Views
Everyone else knows what happened.... Talic - 17/03/2010 06:35:37 PM 553 Views
Every nation has to come to grips with the "sins of its past". everynametaken - 18/03/2010 01:30:56 AM 460 Views
Erdogan is the Middle East's Chavez. *NM* AgentOrange - 17/03/2010 06:38:00 PM 241 Views
I think Lieberman has the better claim there. *NM* Legolas - 18/03/2010 03:39:29 AM 210 Views
Hardly. Lieberman makes sense AgentOrange - 18/03/2010 05:34:43 PM 446 Views
I've read some articles saying otherwise. Legolas - 18/03/2010 05:49:52 PM 496 Views
Torpedoing Biden's mission ? What a sad joke. AgentOrange - 18/03/2010 06:22:37 PM 444 Views
Would you like to call it something else? Legolas - 18/03/2010 06:26:34 PM 479 Views
Because Obama was looking for a way to get offended AgentOrange - 18/03/2010 06:54:55 PM 637 Views
Your problem is that a "settlement freeze" doesn't impress anyone at all. Legolas - 18/03/2010 07:16:55 PM 438 Views
Maybe we should just ask the Palestinians if we can keep Tel Aviv ? AgentOrange - 18/03/2010 07:44:07 PM 439 Views
If you want anyone to be impressed, yes. Legolas - 18/03/2010 09:03:11 PM 413 Views
How is it too much when there is a freeze ? AgentOrange - 18/03/2010 09:22:03 PM 484 Views
You call this a freeze? Legolas - 18/03/2010 09:43:52 PM 519 Views
Not your sourness silly. Obama's AgentOrange - 18/03/2010 10:15:56 PM 456 Views
Ah. Legolas - 18/03/2010 10:22:58 PM 430 Views
And you know what really annoys me ? AgentOrange - 18/03/2010 10:53:13 PM 502 Views
How long are supposed to stop building for? random thoughts - 18/03/2010 09:32:58 PM 427 Views
How about permanently? Legolas - 18/03/2010 09:50:46 PM 499 Views
I don't think i agree that the condidtions for peace or that well known random thoughts - 19/03/2010 04:32:37 AM 403 Views
Major conditions Floffe - 19/03/2010 09:59:37 AM 455 Views
Re: Major conditions random thoughts - 19/03/2010 01:26:54 PM 469 Views
Seriously, what conflict are you looking at? Legolas - 19/03/2010 01:56:24 PM 637 Views
Re: Seriously, what conflict are you looking at? ßelals Girl - 19/03/2010 04:47:07 PM 441 Views
Ah, good point there... I was kinda thinking of the West. Legolas - 19/03/2010 08:31:11 PM 486 Views
well I wasn't talking about how anyone treated but who was making the decisions random thoughts - 19/03/2010 09:24:47 PM 514 Views
That really isn't a very useful observation at this point, though. Legolas - 19/03/2010 09:32:30 PM 430 Views
Man, your analysis is weird AgentOrange - 20/03/2010 11:24:40 AM 729 Views
I'm a bit confused what you're saying exactly... Legolas - 20/03/2010 04:10:14 PM 466 Views
How so ? AgentOrange - 20/03/2010 11:04:30 PM 412 Views
It was over because Israel wanted it to be over. Legolas - 20/03/2010 11:24:33 PM 451 Views
Maybe. AgentOrange - 21/03/2010 12:23:58 AM 517 Views
Re: Major conditions Floffe - 19/03/2010 03:01:42 PM 590 Views
They don't exactly have much that they *can* give up. Legolas - 19/03/2010 10:46:35 AM 484 Views
I don't want them to give up anything more then the violience random thoughts - 19/03/2010 01:55:51 PM 485 Views
That's simple enough: Israel is a first world state. Legolas - 19/03/2010 02:13:17 PM 437 Views
That is a little thin random thoughts - 19/03/2010 03:27:10 PM 509 Views
Israel has been a democracy since its inception Floffe - 19/03/2010 04:01:30 PM 525 Views
Okay, two things first... Legolas - 19/03/2010 08:59:57 PM 535 Views
That's ridiculous. everynametaken - 18/03/2010 06:53:40 PM 504 Views
Truly I cannot answer that. AgentOrange - 18/03/2010 07:00:58 PM 445 Views
It is pretty crude snoopcester - 17/03/2010 11:15:28 PM 528 Views
This. Nicely put. *NM* Legolas - 18/03/2010 03:29:02 AM 203 Views
Why is recognizing a 100-year-old evil in his country's past "backing him into a corner"???? Tom - 18/03/2010 11:41:05 AM 486 Views
The guy who has managed to face down one military coup from a sector that doesn't want it admitted? snoopcester - 18/03/2010 12:39:46 PM 563 Views
Turkey's atrocities against the Kurds are what I referred to. Tom - 18/03/2010 02:00:58 PM 521 Views
Ah, well that is a different matter snoopcester - 18/03/2010 02:31:58 PM 521 Views
Why is it so hard for you people to see that the AKP are the "good guys" in Turkey? Legolas - 18/03/2010 01:44:13 PM 453 Views
There are no "good guys" in Turkey, at least not in the government. Tom - 18/03/2010 01:57:44 PM 432 Views
Equating the two is ridiculous. Legolas - 18/03/2010 02:13:37 PM 673 Views
My issues are not with a lack of democracy and I don't equate the AKP and the military Tom - 18/03/2010 02:35:00 PM 578 Views
The AKP is not anti-American. Legolas - 18/03/2010 03:02:00 PM 474 Views
Its better than the alternative Aisha - 18/03/2010 01:11:07 AM 612 Views
So they respond to claims of genocide with threats of ethnic cleansing? Terrible. Just terrible. Tom - 18/03/2010 11:39:31 AM 456 Views
Nicely put *NM* Isaac - 18/03/2010 04:22:58 PM 225 Views
Money. AgentOrange - 18/03/2010 05:47:27 PM 418 Views
Unlikely. Tom - 18/03/2010 08:51:28 PM 437 Views
I agree. What they are doing now only makes things worse for them random thoughts - 18/03/2010 08:48:25 PM 399 Views
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