They don't exactly have much that they *can* give up.
Legolas Send a noteboard - 19/03/2010 10:46:35 AM
What do you believe the Palestinians should be required to give up for peace? I keep seeing people demand Israel give into the demands of the Palestinians in order to have peace. Like elections war have consequences and Israel won they get to set the rules.
Them giving up violence forever is a nobrainer, but what else are you going to ask? More land? Then their state ceases to be viable and things will go back to violence anyway. Money, well, obviously not. The Haram al-Sharif is also a complete non-starter. There's a few things you could ask from the Arabic countries that supposedly support Palestine - complete normalisation of relations with Israel, perhaps even an acknowledgement of the harsh treatment of the Jews back in the fifties - but as far as the Palestinians themselves go, they simply don't have much to negotiate with. So yes, Israel has to make far larger concessions in any realistic peace deal, because they can afford to - because they have been the winners all along, got plenty of land that wasn't theirs over the past half century.
Turkey threatens to expel 100,000 Armenians
17/03/2010 05:10:26 PM
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Why not let sleeping dogs lie?
17/03/2010 05:22:34 PM
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Erdogan is the Middle East's Chavez. *NM*
17/03/2010 06:38:00 PM
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I think Lieberman has the better claim there. *NM*
18/03/2010 03:39:29 AM
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Hardly. Lieberman makes sense
18/03/2010 05:34:43 PM
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I've read some articles saying otherwise.
18/03/2010 05:49:52 PM
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Torpedoing Biden's mission ? What a sad joke.
18/03/2010 06:22:37 PM
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Would you like to call it something else?
18/03/2010 06:26:34 PM
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Because Obama was looking for a way to get offended
18/03/2010 06:54:55 PM
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Your problem is that a "settlement freeze" doesn't impress anyone at all.
18/03/2010 07:16:55 PM
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Maybe we should just ask the Palestinians if we can keep Tel Aviv ?
18/03/2010 07:44:07 PM
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If you want anyone to be impressed, yes.
18/03/2010 09:03:11 PM
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How is it too much when there is a freeze ?
18/03/2010 09:22:03 PM
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You call this a freeze?
18/03/2010 09:43:52 PM
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Not your sourness silly. Obama's
18/03/2010 10:15:56 PM
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How long are supposed to stop building for?
18/03/2010 09:32:58 PM
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How about permanently?
18/03/2010 09:50:46 PM
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I don't think i agree that the condidtions for peace or that well known
19/03/2010 04:32:37 AM
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Major conditions
19/03/2010 09:59:37 AM
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Re: Major conditions
19/03/2010 01:26:54 PM
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Seriously, what conflict are you looking at?
19/03/2010 01:56:24 PM
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Re: Seriously, what conflict are you looking at?
19/03/2010 04:47:07 PM
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Ah, good point there... I was kinda thinking of the West.
19/03/2010 08:31:11 PM
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well I wasn't talking about how anyone treated but who was making the decisions
19/03/2010 09:24:47 PM
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That really isn't a very useful observation at this point, though.
19/03/2010 09:32:30 PM
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Man, your analysis is weird
20/03/2010 11:24:40 AM
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I'm a bit confused what you're saying exactly...
20/03/2010 04:10:14 PM
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How so ?
20/03/2010 11:04:30 PM
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They don't exactly have much that they *can* give up.
19/03/2010 10:46:35 AM
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I don't want them to give up anything more then the violience
19/03/2010 01:55:51 PM
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That's simple enough: Israel is a first world state.
19/03/2010 02:13:17 PM
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It is pretty crude
17/03/2010 11:15:28 PM
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Why is recognizing a 100-year-old evil in his country's past "backing him into a corner"????
18/03/2010 11:41:05 AM
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The guy who has managed to face down one military coup from a sector that doesn't want it admitted?
18/03/2010 12:39:46 PM
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Why is it so hard for you people to see that the AKP are the "good guys" in Turkey?
18/03/2010 01:44:13 PM
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There are no "good guys" in Turkey, at least not in the government.
18/03/2010 01:57:44 PM
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Equating the two is ridiculous.
18/03/2010 02:13:37 PM
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My issues are not with a lack of democracy and I don't equate the AKP and the military
18/03/2010 02:35:00 PM
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So they respond to claims of genocide with threats of ethnic cleansing? Terrible. Just terrible.
18/03/2010 11:39:31 AM
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I agree. What they are doing now only makes things worse for them
18/03/2010 08:48:25 PM
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