What do you believe the Palestinians should be required to give up for peace? I keep seeing people demand Israel give into the demands of the Palestinians in order to have peace. Like elections war have consequences and Israel won they get to set the rules.
I thought that "winner sets the rules" mentality went away after the results of Versailles. If a deal is to be viable, it'll have to take both sides into account.
Did we let the Germans and Japanese set the rules after WWII? What some seem to want is a switch where the loser sets the rules.
But as for what needs to be settled for a peace in the region:
- Israel needs to give up some settlements so that a Palestinian state can be viable (and this state will be less than the 1967 borders, as that's the starting point for negotiations)
How many? I have not heard the Palestinians say they would agree to stop the conflict if Israel simply gives up some settlements and that is what we need to hear.
- Refugees need to somehow be compensated for not being able to return
Again I have not heard the Palestinians say they will accept a cash payment. Until they agree to accept money in return for dropping their claim it is a mute point.
Also there comes a point where you stop being a refuge and that point is less then 40 years.
- Palestinians need to build up a police/security force and stop attacks on Israel
That would be a good start but until that happens I don't think Israel should give them anything. If Israel gives them what they want while there is still violence it will not be a peace treaty it will be extortion not to mention it won't accomplish anything. The Palestinians have been using these methods for decades now with nothing but misery to show for I see no reason to believe they will abandon them if they start to actually work.
- The status of Jerusalem needs to be settled. Remember how it was supposed to be an independent, UN-run area in the 1948 partitioning plan. Both sides need to realise that they can not have it on their own if they want peace.
The UN couldn't run a bake sale and they do not have a history of being pro-Israel. Jerusalem need to open to all three major religions but Israel should not have to hand over control.
Do you have any more major points that need to be solved?
Palestinians is trying to use terrorism to get what they can not win on the field of battle. If they succeed they validate the method. If Palestine were to use peaceful methods of resistances they could get a lot of what you are saying needs to be done.
I think the world stood up to Palestine a demanded that stop using terrorist as a tactic they would be forced to back down and accept some reasonable peace deal but as long they are encouraged to continue this fruitless struggle they will never stop until all of the demands are met.
Turkey threatens to expel 100,000 Armenians
- 17/03/2010 05:10:26 PM
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Why not let sleeping dogs lie?
- 17/03/2010 05:22:34 PM
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Erdogan is the Middle East's Chavez. *NM*
- 17/03/2010 06:38:00 PM
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I think Lieberman has the better claim there. *NM*
- 18/03/2010 03:39:29 AM
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Hardly. Lieberman makes sense
- 18/03/2010 05:34:43 PM
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I've read some articles saying otherwise.
- 18/03/2010 05:49:52 PM
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Torpedoing Biden's mission ? What a sad joke.
- 18/03/2010 06:22:37 PM
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Would you like to call it something else?
- 18/03/2010 06:26:34 PM
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Because Obama was looking for a way to get offended
- 18/03/2010 06:54:55 PM
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Your problem is that a "settlement freeze" doesn't impress anyone at all.
- 18/03/2010 07:16:55 PM
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Maybe we should just ask the Palestinians if we can keep Tel Aviv ?
- 18/03/2010 07:44:07 PM
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If you want anyone to be impressed, yes.
- 18/03/2010 09:03:11 PM
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How is it too much when there is a freeze ?
- 18/03/2010 09:22:03 PM
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You call this a freeze?
- 18/03/2010 09:43:52 PM
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Not your sourness silly. Obama's
- 18/03/2010 10:15:56 PM
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How long are supposed to stop building for?
- 18/03/2010 09:32:58 PM
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How about permanently? 
- 18/03/2010 09:50:46 PM
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- 18/03/2010 09:50:46 PM
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I don't think i agree that the condidtions for peace or that well known
- 19/03/2010 04:32:37 AM
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Major conditions
- 19/03/2010 09:59:37 AM
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Re: Major conditions
- 19/03/2010 01:26:54 PM
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Seriously, what conflict are you looking at?
- 19/03/2010 01:56:24 PM
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Re: Seriously, what conflict are you looking at?
- 19/03/2010 04:47:07 PM
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Ah, good point there... I was kinda thinking of the West.
- 19/03/2010 08:31:11 PM
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- 19/03/2010 08:31:11 PM
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well I wasn't talking about how anyone treated but who was making the decisions
- 19/03/2010 09:24:47 PM
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That really isn't a very useful observation at this point, though.
- 19/03/2010 09:32:30 PM
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Man, your analysis is weird
- 20/03/2010 11:24:40 AM
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I'm a bit confused what you're saying exactly...
- 20/03/2010 04:10:14 PM
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How so ?
- 20/03/2010 11:04:30 PM
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They don't exactly have much that they *can* give up.
- 19/03/2010 10:46:35 AM
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I don't want them to give up anything more then the violience
- 19/03/2010 01:55:51 PM
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That's simple enough: Israel is a first world state.
- 19/03/2010 02:13:17 PM
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It is pretty crude
- 17/03/2010 11:15:28 PM
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Why is recognizing a 100-year-old evil in his country's past "backing him into a corner"????
- 18/03/2010 11:41:05 AM
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The guy who has managed to face down one military coup from a sector that doesn't want it admitted?
- 18/03/2010 12:39:46 PM
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Why is it so hard for you people to see that the AKP are the "good guys" in Turkey?
- 18/03/2010 01:44:13 PM
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There are no "good guys" in Turkey, at least not in the government.
- 18/03/2010 01:57:44 PM
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Equating the two is ridiculous.
- 18/03/2010 02:13:37 PM
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My issues are not with a lack of democracy and I don't equate the AKP and the military
- 18/03/2010 02:35:00 PM
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So they respond to claims of genocide with threats of ethnic cleansing? Terrible. Just terrible.
- 18/03/2010 11:39:31 AM
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I agree. What they are doing now only makes things worse for them
- 18/03/2010 08:48:25 PM
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