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Yea, he's going to be adding to it all day, trying to explain the various facets of the bill. Inigo Montoya Send a noteboard - 22/03/2010 03:05:03 PM
You may be right about reform having to start now, too. I'm rather torn on the issue, myself - the bill as passed is not that bad in itself, but it *is* bad, even disastrous, if it's the only bill that's going to be passed for the next five or ten years. So if the polarization and ugliness that this bill has sown is such that Congress waits years before trying to pass additional reforms, I'm afraid it wasn't worth that. As such, I still think a more bipartisan bill should've been possible.


Yea, that's the thing. This bill doesn't do nearly enough on it's own to truly change or save the system financially. But I have to think it makes it a hell of alot easier going foward to make more impactful reforms down the line now that the initial hurdle has been cleared. Especially if it can be explained in terms to the public that the figures (like Klein uses that graph to illustrate) are only a drop in the bucket of our total healthcare spending. When people see that this bill hasn't taken away any "freedom" as the crazy, loud right would have us believe and has given almost everyone access to care when they're sick, I think further reform will be much more palatable to the people down the road. Especially if some of the cost-saving pilot programs included in this bill are actually coming up with real results that can be shown demonstrably to save money.
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No posts on the bill passing? - 22/03/2010 08:22:27 AM 1421 Views
Meh - 22/03/2010 09:07:27 AM 762 Views
Re: Meh - 22/03/2010 01:53:43 PM 775 Views
I know what you mean. I love hearing that the "majority" are against this. - 22/03/2010 01:57:15 PM 874 Views
surveys are crap anyways. - 22/03/2010 01:59:39 PM 711 Views
That's ignorance speaking. - 22/03/2010 02:02:46 PM 742 Views
well yah. Sorry, I wasn't meaning to say surveys as a whole are nonsense - 22/03/2010 02:09:42 PM 678 Views
Some are a plurality, some are a majority.... - 22/03/2010 04:01:56 PM 792 Views
But most of them with a high/low don't go into enough detail - 22/03/2010 09:24:29 PM 837 Views
A question? - 23/03/2010 01:11:07 AM 771 Views
I accept that there are situations where leaders must go against popular opinion - 23/03/2010 02:53:00 AM 798 Views
on the other hand *edited stupid spelling error* - 23/03/2010 03:09:47 AM 912 Views
On a certain level I do agree with you - 23/03/2010 05:14:24 AM 726 Views
I was thinking about this after posting - 23/03/2010 12:12:17 PM 711 Views
Ahahahahahahahaha - 23/03/2010 12:57:17 PM 851 Views
why? *NM* - 23/03/2010 03:37:00 PM 371 Views
Because "populous" is not a noun in English. *NM* - 23/03/2010 03:42:16 PM 353 Views
This. - 23/03/2010 03:46:25 PM 769 Views
damn you phonetics. - 23/03/2010 03:50:33 PM 1030 Views
As Emo Philips would say - 23/03/2010 04:32:52 PM 803 Views
I always laugh when I see someone say people are "retarted" *NM* - 23/03/2010 03:51:46 PM 427 Views
"Get a life, morans!" *NM* - 23/03/2010 03:55:27 PM 359 Views
I think this is one of them - 23/03/2010 12:49:35 PM 1215 Views
A step in the wrong direction. - 22/03/2010 10:38:31 AM 897 Views
didn't realize it had - 22/03/2010 11:49:36 AM 730 Views
I am happy for it - 22/03/2010 11:55:10 AM 716 Views
The Bill passed? - 22/03/2010 12:27:36 PM 828 Views
I think with the saturation coverage it has been getting people are just worn out *NM* - 22/03/2010 01:27:59 PM 387 Views
hollah that. *NM* - 22/03/2010 01:58:47 PM 326 Views
Yes. - 22/03/2010 02:38:03 PM 736 Views
Re: No posts on the bill passing? - 22/03/2010 01:39:14 PM 747 Views
I chose to read about it first at the NYT, then the WSJ, then the Economist. - 22/03/2010 01:43:07 PM 927 Views
Re: I chose to read about it first at the NYT, then the WSJ, then the Economist. - 22/03/2010 02:01:07 PM 738 Views
The Bill won't get repealed. Whatever happens in November. - 23/03/2010 12:17:21 AM 754 Views
There are 18 incumbent Dem Senate seats; 41+18<67. - 29/03/2010 11:15:29 AM 762 Views
I am worried. The official reports show that it will actually erase some debt. But . . . - 22/03/2010 01:39:26 PM 851 Views
I think reform had to start now. - 22/03/2010 02:27:11 PM 942 Views
That's a good column. - 22/03/2010 02:44:56 PM 827 Views
Yea, he's going to be adding to it all day, trying to explain the various facets of the bill. - 22/03/2010 03:05:03 PM 858 Views
I think the problem highlight what I don't like about this bill - 22/03/2010 03:20:54 PM 764 Views
Re: I think the problem highlight what I don't like about this bill - 22/03/2010 03:33:31 PM 729 Views
Let's be realistic here at least.... - 22/03/2010 04:16:23 PM 728 Views
I hope your house is built on fimrer foundations then your reasoning - 22/03/2010 04:25:49 PM 767 Views
I'm not worried, there are lots of ways to pay for the bill. - 22/03/2010 05:36:39 PM 678 Views
You should worry about cost control (AKA the only real reason for healthcare reform to begin. ) - 23/03/2010 07:02:24 AM 860 Views
bingo - 24/03/2010 03:45:48 AM 884 Views
Next question: WTF do we do about it? - 24/03/2010 04:00:39 AM 757 Views
sadly probably not a damned thing... - 24/03/2010 04:20:45 AM 731 Views
I worry the day is coming when the Bastille is stormed. - 29/03/2010 11:06:31 AM 832 Views
It is a good start - 22/03/2010 03:01:08 PM 719 Views
Re: It is a good start - 22/03/2010 04:13:28 PM 698 Views
Heh - 22/03/2010 04:21:22 PM 785 Views
Re: Heh - 22/03/2010 04:32:30 PM 730 Views
Re: Heh - 22/03/2010 08:25:05 PM 790 Views
Sorry, I was out seizing the means of production. *NM* - 22/03/2010 07:43:19 PM 317 Views
You should delve the debate before getting excited. - 23/03/2010 07:22:36 AM 823 Views
I really like what GRR Martin wrote in his blog. - 23/03/2010 09:55:11 AM 846 Views
I agree with him - 23/03/2010 12:14:47 PM 754 Views
I would say it is rather weak point - 23/03/2010 01:12:43 PM 742 Views
Erm... - 23/03/2010 01:39:58 PM 852 Views
I am pleasantly surprised - 23/03/2010 04:14:52 PM 675 Views
Exceptions? - 24/03/2010 05:08:17 AM 688 Views
I haven't been following it too closely - 23/03/2010 02:10:39 PM 885 Views

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