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Yea, he's going to be adding to it all day, trying to explain the various facets of the bill. Inigo Montoya Send a noteboard - 22/03/2010 03:05:03 PM
You may be right about reform having to start now, too. I'm rather torn on the issue, myself - the bill as passed is not that bad in itself, but it *is* bad, even disastrous, if it's the only bill that's going to be passed for the next five or ten years. So if the polarization and ugliness that this bill has sown is such that Congress waits years before trying to pass additional reforms, I'm afraid it wasn't worth that. As such, I still think a more bipartisan bill should've been possible.


Yea, that's the thing. This bill doesn't do nearly enough on it's own to truly change or save the system financially. But I have to think it makes it a hell of alot easier going foward to make more impactful reforms down the line now that the initial hurdle has been cleared. Especially if it can be explained in terms to the public that the figures (like Klein uses that graph to illustrate) are only a drop in the bucket of our total healthcare spending. When people see that this bill hasn't taken away any "freedom" as the crazy, loud right would have us believe and has given almost everyone access to care when they're sick, I think further reform will be much more palatable to the people down the road. Especially if some of the cost-saving pilot programs included in this bill are actually coming up with real results that can be shown demonstrably to save money.
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No posts on the bill passing? - 22/03/2010 08:22:27 AM 1578 Views
Meh - 22/03/2010 09:07:27 AM 937 Views
Re: Meh - 22/03/2010 01:53:43 PM 946 Views
I know what you mean. I love hearing that the "majority" are against this. - 22/03/2010 01:57:15 PM 1048 Views
surveys are crap anyways. - 22/03/2010 01:59:39 PM 900 Views
That's ignorance speaking. - 22/03/2010 02:02:46 PM 923 Views
well yah. Sorry, I wasn't meaning to say surveys as a whole are nonsense - 22/03/2010 02:09:42 PM 847 Views
Some are a plurality, some are a majority.... - 22/03/2010 04:01:56 PM 953 Views
But most of them with a high/low don't go into enough detail - 22/03/2010 09:24:29 PM 1012 Views
A question? - 23/03/2010 01:11:07 AM 964 Views
I accept that there are situations where leaders must go against popular opinion - 23/03/2010 02:53:00 AM 1023 Views
on the other hand *edited stupid spelling error* - 23/03/2010 03:09:47 AM 1072 Views
On a certain level I do agree with you - 23/03/2010 05:14:24 AM 926 Views
I was thinking about this after posting - 23/03/2010 12:12:17 PM 907 Views
Ahahahahahahahaha - 23/03/2010 12:57:17 PM 1030 Views
why? *NM* - 23/03/2010 03:37:00 PM 451 Views
Because "populous" is not a noun in English. *NM* - 23/03/2010 03:42:16 PM 431 Views
This. - 23/03/2010 03:46:25 PM 945 Views
damn you phonetics. - 23/03/2010 03:50:33 PM 1190 Views
As Emo Philips would say - 23/03/2010 04:32:52 PM 966 Views
I always laugh when I see someone say people are "retarted" *NM* - 23/03/2010 03:51:46 PM 509 Views
"Get a life, morans!" *NM* - 23/03/2010 03:55:27 PM 452 Views
I think this is one of them - 23/03/2010 12:49:35 PM 1396 Views
A step in the wrong direction. - 22/03/2010 10:38:31 AM 1057 Views
didn't realize it had - 22/03/2010 11:49:36 AM 896 Views
I am happy for it - 22/03/2010 11:55:10 AM 876 Views
The Bill passed? - 22/03/2010 12:27:36 PM 1011 Views
I think with the saturation coverage it has been getting people are just worn out *NM* - 22/03/2010 01:27:59 PM 466 Views
hollah that. *NM* - 22/03/2010 01:58:47 PM 410 Views
Yes. - 22/03/2010 02:38:03 PM 898 Views
Re: No posts on the bill passing? - 22/03/2010 01:39:14 PM 900 Views
I chose to read about it first at the NYT, then the WSJ, then the Economist. - 22/03/2010 01:43:07 PM 1086 Views
Re: I chose to read about it first at the NYT, then the WSJ, then the Economist. - 22/03/2010 02:01:07 PM 893 Views
The Bill won't get repealed. Whatever happens in November. - 23/03/2010 12:17:21 AM 928 Views
There are 18 incumbent Dem Senate seats; 41+18<67. - 29/03/2010 11:15:29 AM 933 Views
I am worried. The official reports show that it will actually erase some debt. But . . . - 22/03/2010 01:39:26 PM 1036 Views
I think reform had to start now. - 22/03/2010 02:27:11 PM 1117 Views
That's a good column. - 22/03/2010 02:44:56 PM 996 Views
Yea, he's going to be adding to it all day, trying to explain the various facets of the bill. - 22/03/2010 03:05:03 PM 1043 Views
I think the problem highlight what I don't like about this bill - 22/03/2010 03:20:54 PM 931 Views
Re: I think the problem highlight what I don't like about this bill - 22/03/2010 03:33:31 PM 919 Views
Let's be realistic here at least.... - 22/03/2010 04:16:23 PM 916 Views
I hope your house is built on fimrer foundations then your reasoning - 22/03/2010 04:25:49 PM 964 Views
I'm not worried, there are lots of ways to pay for the bill. - 22/03/2010 05:36:39 PM 851 Views
You should worry about cost control (AKA the only real reason for healthcare reform to begin. ) - 23/03/2010 07:02:24 AM 1037 Views
bingo - 24/03/2010 03:45:48 AM 1053 Views
Next question: WTF do we do about it? - 24/03/2010 04:00:39 AM 966 Views
sadly probably not a damned thing... - 24/03/2010 04:20:45 AM 902 Views
I worry the day is coming when the Bastille is stormed. - 29/03/2010 11:06:31 AM 1002 Views
It is a good start - 22/03/2010 03:01:08 PM 880 Views
Re: It is a good start - 22/03/2010 04:13:28 PM 852 Views
Heh - 22/03/2010 04:21:22 PM 985 Views
Re: Heh - 22/03/2010 04:32:30 PM 890 Views
Re: Heh - 22/03/2010 08:25:05 PM 969 Views
Sorry, I was out seizing the means of production. *NM* - 22/03/2010 07:43:19 PM 393 Views
You should delve the debate before getting excited. - 23/03/2010 07:22:36 AM 1002 Views
I really like what GRR Martin wrote in his blog. - 23/03/2010 09:55:11 AM 1043 Views
I agree with him - 23/03/2010 12:14:47 PM 914 Views
I would say it is rather weak point - 23/03/2010 01:12:43 PM 900 Views
Erm... - 23/03/2010 01:39:58 PM 1012 Views
I am pleasantly surprised - 23/03/2010 04:14:52 PM 816 Views
Exceptions? - 24/03/2010 05:08:17 AM 857 Views
I haven't been following it too closely - 23/03/2010 02:10:39 PM 1070 Views

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