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Yea, he's going to be adding to it all day, trying to explain the various facets of the bill. Inigo Montoya Send a noteboard - 22/03/2010 03:05:03 PM
You may be right about reform having to start now, too. I'm rather torn on the issue, myself - the bill as passed is not that bad in itself, but it *is* bad, even disastrous, if it's the only bill that's going to be passed for the next five or ten years. So if the polarization and ugliness that this bill has sown is such that Congress waits years before trying to pass additional reforms, I'm afraid it wasn't worth that. As such, I still think a more bipartisan bill should've been possible.


Yea, that's the thing. This bill doesn't do nearly enough on it's own to truly change or save the system financially. But I have to think it makes it a hell of alot easier going foward to make more impactful reforms down the line now that the initial hurdle has been cleared. Especially if it can be explained in terms to the public that the figures (like Klein uses that graph to illustrate) are only a drop in the bucket of our total healthcare spending. When people see that this bill hasn't taken away any "freedom" as the crazy, loud right would have us believe and has given almost everyone access to care when they're sick, I think further reform will be much more palatable to the people down the road. Especially if some of the cost-saving pilot programs included in this bill are actually coming up with real results that can be shown demonstrably to save money.
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No posts on the bill passing? - 22/03/2010 08:22:27 AM 1307 Views
Meh - 22/03/2010 09:07:27 AM 662 Views
Re: Meh - 22/03/2010 01:53:43 PM 630 Views
I know what you mean. I love hearing that the "majority" are against this. - 22/03/2010 01:57:15 PM 773 Views
surveys are crap anyways. - 22/03/2010 01:59:39 PM 602 Views
That's ignorance speaking. - 22/03/2010 02:02:46 PM 629 Views
well yah. Sorry, I wasn't meaning to say surveys as a whole are nonsense - 22/03/2010 02:09:42 PM 563 Views
Some are a plurality, some are a majority.... - 22/03/2010 04:01:56 PM 691 Views
But most of them with a high/low don't go into enough detail - 22/03/2010 09:24:29 PM 717 Views
A question? - 23/03/2010 01:11:07 AM 642 Views
I accept that there are situations where leaders must go against popular opinion - 23/03/2010 02:53:00 AM 689 Views
on the other hand *edited stupid spelling error* - 23/03/2010 03:09:47 AM 804 Views
On a certain level I do agree with you - 23/03/2010 05:14:24 AM 599 Views
I was thinking about this after posting - 23/03/2010 12:12:17 PM 604 Views
Ahahahahahahahaha - 23/03/2010 12:57:17 PM 757 Views
why? *NM* - 23/03/2010 03:37:00 PM 314 Views
Because "populous" is not a noun in English. *NM* - 23/03/2010 03:42:16 PM 312 Views
This. - 23/03/2010 03:46:25 PM 664 Views
damn you phonetics. - 23/03/2010 03:50:33 PM 914 Views
As Emo Philips would say - 23/03/2010 04:32:52 PM 686 Views
I always laugh when I see someone say people are "retarted" *NM* - 23/03/2010 03:51:46 PM 387 Views
"Get a life, morans!" *NM* - 23/03/2010 03:55:27 PM 313 Views
I think this is one of them - 23/03/2010 12:49:35 PM 1077 Views
A step in the wrong direction. - 22/03/2010 10:38:31 AM 781 Views
didn't realize it had - 22/03/2010 11:49:36 AM 626 Views
I am happy for it - 22/03/2010 11:55:10 AM 614 Views
The Bill passed? - 22/03/2010 12:27:36 PM 711 Views
I think with the saturation coverage it has been getting people are just worn out *NM* - 22/03/2010 01:27:59 PM 336 Views
hollah that. *NM* - 22/03/2010 01:58:47 PM 273 Views
Yes. - 22/03/2010 02:38:03 PM 628 Views
Re: No posts on the bill passing? - 22/03/2010 01:39:14 PM 637 Views
I chose to read about it first at the NYT, then the WSJ, then the Economist. - 22/03/2010 01:43:07 PM 820 Views
Re: I chose to read about it first at the NYT, then the WSJ, then the Economist. - 22/03/2010 02:01:07 PM 626 Views
The Bill won't get repealed. Whatever happens in November. - 23/03/2010 12:17:21 AM 636 Views
There are 18 incumbent Dem Senate seats; 41+18<67. - 29/03/2010 11:15:29 AM 633 Views
I am worried. The official reports show that it will actually erase some debt. But . . . - 22/03/2010 01:39:26 PM 740 Views
I think reform had to start now. - 22/03/2010 02:27:11 PM 814 Views
That's a good column. - 22/03/2010 02:44:56 PM 714 Views
Yea, he's going to be adding to it all day, trying to explain the various facets of the bill. - 22/03/2010 03:05:03 PM 746 Views
I think the problem highlight what I don't like about this bill - 22/03/2010 03:20:54 PM 639 Views
Re: I think the problem highlight what I don't like about this bill - 22/03/2010 03:33:31 PM 614 Views
Let's be realistic here at least.... - 22/03/2010 04:16:23 PM 628 Views
I hope your house is built on fimrer foundations then your reasoning - 22/03/2010 04:25:49 PM 636 Views
I'm not worried, there are lots of ways to pay for the bill. - 22/03/2010 05:36:39 PM 555 Views
You should worry about cost control (AKA the only real reason for healthcare reform to begin. ) - 23/03/2010 07:02:24 AM 746 Views
bingo - 24/03/2010 03:45:48 AM 766 Views
Next question: WTF do we do about it? - 24/03/2010 04:00:39 AM 643 Views
sadly probably not a damned thing... - 24/03/2010 04:20:45 AM 621 Views
I worry the day is coming when the Bastille is stormed. - 29/03/2010 11:06:31 AM 713 Views
It is a good start - 22/03/2010 03:01:08 PM 603 Views
Re: It is a good start - 22/03/2010 04:13:28 PM 603 Views
Heh - 22/03/2010 04:21:22 PM 661 Views
Re: Heh - 22/03/2010 04:32:30 PM 622 Views
Re: Heh - 22/03/2010 08:25:05 PM 679 Views
Sorry, I was out seizing the means of production. *NM* - 22/03/2010 07:43:19 PM 272 Views
You should delve the debate before getting excited. - 23/03/2010 07:22:36 AM 715 Views
I really like what GRR Martin wrote in his blog. - 23/03/2010 09:55:11 AM 732 Views
I agree with him - 23/03/2010 12:14:47 PM 646 Views
I would say it is rather weak point - 23/03/2010 01:12:43 PM 616 Views
Erm... - 23/03/2010 01:39:58 PM 721 Views
I am pleasantly surprised - 23/03/2010 04:14:52 PM 567 Views
Exceptions? - 24/03/2010 05:08:17 AM 573 Views
I haven't been following it too closely - 23/03/2010 02:10:39 PM 765 Views

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