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Yea, he's going to be adding to it all day, trying to explain the various facets of the bill. Inigo Montoya Send a noteboard - 22/03/2010 03:05:03 PM
You may be right about reform having to start now, too. I'm rather torn on the issue, myself - the bill as passed is not that bad in itself, but it *is* bad, even disastrous, if it's the only bill that's going to be passed for the next five or ten years. So if the polarization and ugliness that this bill has sown is such that Congress waits years before trying to pass additional reforms, I'm afraid it wasn't worth that. As such, I still think a more bipartisan bill should've been possible.


Yea, that's the thing. This bill doesn't do nearly enough on it's own to truly change or save the system financially. But I have to think it makes it a hell of alot easier going foward to make more impactful reforms down the line now that the initial hurdle has been cleared. Especially if it can be explained in terms to the public that the figures (like Klein uses that graph to illustrate) are only a drop in the bucket of our total healthcare spending. When people see that this bill hasn't taken away any "freedom" as the crazy, loud right would have us believe and has given almost everyone access to care when they're sick, I think further reform will be much more palatable to the people down the road. Especially if some of the cost-saving pilot programs included in this bill are actually coming up with real results that can be shown demonstrably to save money.
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No posts on the bill passing? - 22/03/2010 08:22:27 AM 1543 Views
Meh - 22/03/2010 09:07:27 AM 886 Views
Re: Meh - 22/03/2010 01:53:43 PM 907 Views
I know what you mean. I love hearing that the "majority" are against this. - 22/03/2010 01:57:15 PM 1002 Views
surveys are crap anyways. - 22/03/2010 01:59:39 PM 851 Views
That's ignorance speaking. - 22/03/2010 02:02:46 PM 874 Views
well yah. Sorry, I wasn't meaning to say surveys as a whole are nonsense - 22/03/2010 02:09:42 PM 806 Views
Some are a plurality, some are a majority.... - 22/03/2010 04:01:56 PM 919 Views
But most of them with a high/low don't go into enough detail - 22/03/2010 09:24:29 PM 973 Views
A question? - 23/03/2010 01:11:07 AM 915 Views
I accept that there are situations where leaders must go against popular opinion - 23/03/2010 02:53:00 AM 965 Views
on the other hand *edited stupid spelling error* - 23/03/2010 03:09:47 AM 1036 Views
On a certain level I do agree with you - 23/03/2010 05:14:24 AM 875 Views
I was thinking about this after posting - 23/03/2010 12:12:17 PM 857 Views
Ahahahahahahahaha - 23/03/2010 12:57:17 PM 981 Views
why? *NM* - 23/03/2010 03:37:00 PM 434 Views
Because "populous" is not a noun in English. *NM* - 23/03/2010 03:42:16 PM 411 Views
This. - 23/03/2010 03:46:25 PM 906 Views
damn you phonetics. - 23/03/2010 03:50:33 PM 1152 Views
As Emo Philips would say - 23/03/2010 04:32:52 PM 920 Views
I always laugh when I see someone say people are "retarted" *NM* - 23/03/2010 03:51:46 PM 489 Views
"Get a life, morans!" *NM* - 23/03/2010 03:55:27 PM 430 Views
I think this is one of them - 23/03/2010 12:49:35 PM 1359 Views
A step in the wrong direction. - 22/03/2010 10:38:31 AM 1019 Views
didn't realize it had - 22/03/2010 11:49:36 AM 863 Views
I am happy for it - 22/03/2010 11:55:10 AM 849 Views
The Bill passed? - 22/03/2010 12:27:36 PM 976 Views
I think with the saturation coverage it has been getting people are just worn out *NM* - 22/03/2010 01:27:59 PM 447 Views
hollah that. *NM* - 22/03/2010 01:58:47 PM 391 Views
Yes. - 22/03/2010 02:38:03 PM 861 Views
Re: No posts on the bill passing? - 22/03/2010 01:39:14 PM 867 Views
I chose to read about it first at the NYT, then the WSJ, then the Economist. - 22/03/2010 01:43:07 PM 1051 Views
Re: I chose to read about it first at the NYT, then the WSJ, then the Economist. - 22/03/2010 02:01:07 PM 858 Views
The Bill won't get repealed. Whatever happens in November. - 23/03/2010 12:17:21 AM 882 Views
There are 18 incumbent Dem Senate seats; 41+18<67. - 29/03/2010 11:15:29 AM 893 Views
I am worried. The official reports show that it will actually erase some debt. But . . . - 22/03/2010 01:39:26 PM 992 Views
I think reform had to start now. - 22/03/2010 02:27:11 PM 1074 Views
That's a good column. - 22/03/2010 02:44:56 PM 955 Views
Yea, he's going to be adding to it all day, trying to explain the various facets of the bill. - 22/03/2010 03:05:03 PM 1004 Views
I think the problem highlight what I don't like about this bill - 22/03/2010 03:20:54 PM 887 Views
Re: I think the problem highlight what I don't like about this bill - 22/03/2010 03:33:31 PM 873 Views
Let's be realistic here at least.... - 22/03/2010 04:16:23 PM 872 Views
I hope your house is built on fimrer foundations then your reasoning - 22/03/2010 04:25:49 PM 918 Views
I'm not worried, there are lots of ways to pay for the bill. - 22/03/2010 05:36:39 PM 814 Views
You should worry about cost control (AKA the only real reason for healthcare reform to begin. ) - 23/03/2010 07:02:24 AM 991 Views
bingo - 24/03/2010 03:45:48 AM 1011 Views
Next question: WTF do we do about it? - 24/03/2010 04:00:39 AM 914 Views
sadly probably not a damned thing... - 24/03/2010 04:20:45 AM 860 Views
I worry the day is coming when the Bastille is stormed. - 29/03/2010 11:06:31 AM 958 Views
It is a good start - 22/03/2010 03:01:08 PM 842 Views
Re: It is a good start - 22/03/2010 04:13:28 PM 816 Views
Heh - 22/03/2010 04:21:22 PM 947 Views
Re: Heh - 22/03/2010 04:32:30 PM 854 Views
Re: Heh - 22/03/2010 08:25:05 PM 924 Views
Sorry, I was out seizing the means of production. *NM* - 22/03/2010 07:43:19 PM 375 Views
You should delve the debate before getting excited. - 23/03/2010 07:22:36 AM 957 Views
I really like what GRR Martin wrote in his blog. - 23/03/2010 09:55:11 AM 993 Views
I agree with him - 23/03/2010 12:14:47 PM 873 Views
I would say it is rather weak point - 23/03/2010 01:12:43 PM 864 Views
Erm... - 23/03/2010 01:39:58 PM 976 Views
I am pleasantly surprised - 23/03/2010 04:14:52 PM 784 Views
Exceptions? - 24/03/2010 05:08:17 AM 820 Views
I haven't been following it too closely - 23/03/2010 02:10:39 PM 1028 Views

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