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Re: I think the problem highlight what I don't like about this bill callandor1000 Send a noteboard - 22/03/2010 03:33:31 PM
He spends a lot of time focusing on CBO numbers but at the end of the article he points out that most of these numbers really don't matter it is growth rate that matters. Growth rate is what will kill us and this bill does almost nothing to bend the cover it simply brings more people into the broken system.

He also fails to point out that even the modest savings predicated by the CBO require future congresses and presidents to make cuts that this congress was unable to do. Are Medicare cuts and increased taxes on union workers gold polices going to be more popular in 5 years? It became obvious that this bill was all about expanding coverage and not about controlling cost when the democrats refused to put tort reform on the table.


Sir, what is your house built on? A foundation? Something needs to be laid for this to work in the end. It became apparent that this was as close as we were going to get for now and it has potential.

What the republican party needs to do is stop being a bunch of bitches. They had a large part in screwing this country over. They did a shitty ass job the 8 years before Obama. So... they screwed up and now they have to eat their cake. It means they won't get everythign they wanted, like tort reform. Maybe they can get that later. Why don't they work to try and get it and help rather than an attitude of "Well if Billy won't flush the toilet after he potties then I won't either". No one wants to step up and be the bigger man. The Republicans messed up in the recent past. Why aren't they the ones swallowing their pride and showing the Democrats what they learned from their mistakes, or did they learn anything?

Your mom. That's right. The cat is out of the bag. Your mom.

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No posts on the bill passing? - 22/03/2010 08:22:27 AM 1339 Views
Meh - 22/03/2010 09:07:27 AM 688 Views
Re: Meh - 22/03/2010 01:53:43 PM 678 Views
I know what you mean. I love hearing that the "majority" are against this. - 22/03/2010 01:57:15 PM 805 Views
surveys are crap anyways. - 22/03/2010 01:59:39 PM 633 Views
That's ignorance speaking. - 22/03/2010 02:02:46 PM 658 Views
well yah. Sorry, I wasn't meaning to say surveys as a whole are nonsense - 22/03/2010 02:09:42 PM 587 Views
Some are a plurality, some are a majority.... - 22/03/2010 04:01:56 PM 723 Views
But most of them with a high/low don't go into enough detail - 22/03/2010 09:24:29 PM 750 Views
A question? - 23/03/2010 01:11:07 AM 672 Views
I accept that there are situations where leaders must go against popular opinion - 23/03/2010 02:53:00 AM 720 Views
on the other hand *edited stupid spelling error* - 23/03/2010 03:09:47 AM 831 Views
On a certain level I do agree with you - 23/03/2010 05:14:24 AM 627 Views
I was thinking about this after posting - 23/03/2010 12:12:17 PM 634 Views
Ahahahahahahahaha - 23/03/2010 12:57:17 PM 785 Views
why? *NM* - 23/03/2010 03:37:00 PM 329 Views
Because "populous" is not a noun in English. *NM* - 23/03/2010 03:42:16 PM 326 Views
This. - 23/03/2010 03:46:25 PM 693 Views
damn you phonetics. - 23/03/2010 03:50:33 PM 944 Views
As Emo Philips would say - 23/03/2010 04:32:52 PM 716 Views
I always laugh when I see someone say people are "retarted" *NM* - 23/03/2010 03:51:46 PM 398 Views
"Get a life, morans!" *NM* - 23/03/2010 03:55:27 PM 325 Views
I think this is one of them - 23/03/2010 12:49:35 PM 1116 Views
A step in the wrong direction. - 22/03/2010 10:38:31 AM 817 Views
didn't realize it had - 22/03/2010 11:49:36 AM 649 Views
I am happy for it - 22/03/2010 11:55:10 AM 643 Views
The Bill passed? - 22/03/2010 12:27:36 PM 741 Views
I think with the saturation coverage it has been getting people are just worn out *NM* - 22/03/2010 01:27:59 PM 348 Views
hollah that. *NM* - 22/03/2010 01:58:47 PM 286 Views
Yes. - 22/03/2010 02:38:03 PM 658 Views
Re: No posts on the bill passing? - 22/03/2010 01:39:14 PM 669 Views
I chose to read about it first at the NYT, then the WSJ, then the Economist. - 22/03/2010 01:43:07 PM 853 Views
Re: I chose to read about it first at the NYT, then the WSJ, then the Economist. - 22/03/2010 02:01:07 PM 659 Views
The Bill won't get repealed. Whatever happens in November. - 23/03/2010 12:17:21 AM 668 Views
There are 18 incumbent Dem Senate seats; 41+18<67. - 29/03/2010 11:15:29 AM 660 Views
I am worried. The official reports show that it will actually erase some debt. But . . . - 22/03/2010 01:39:26 PM 769 Views
I think reform had to start now. - 22/03/2010 02:27:11 PM 844 Views
That's a good column. - 22/03/2010 02:44:56 PM 745 Views
I think the problem highlight what I don't like about this bill - 22/03/2010 03:20:54 PM 672 Views
Re: I think the problem highlight what I don't like about this bill - 22/03/2010 03:33:31 PM 644 Views
Let's be realistic here at least.... - 22/03/2010 04:16:23 PM 661 Views
I hope your house is built on fimrer foundations then your reasoning - 22/03/2010 04:25:49 PM 669 Views
I'm not worried, there are lots of ways to pay for the bill. - 22/03/2010 05:36:39 PM 586 Views
You should worry about cost control (AKA the only real reason for healthcare reform to begin. ) - 23/03/2010 07:02:24 AM 776 Views
bingo - 24/03/2010 03:45:48 AM 798 Views
Next question: WTF do we do about it? - 24/03/2010 04:00:39 AM 671 Views
sadly probably not a damned thing... - 24/03/2010 04:20:45 AM 648 Views
I worry the day is coming when the Bastille is stormed. - 29/03/2010 11:06:31 AM 744 Views
It is a good start - 22/03/2010 03:01:08 PM 630 Views
Re: It is a good start - 22/03/2010 04:13:28 PM 632 Views
Heh - 22/03/2010 04:21:22 PM 697 Views
Re: Heh - 22/03/2010 04:32:30 PM 653 Views
Re: Heh - 22/03/2010 08:25:05 PM 708 Views
Sorry, I was out seizing the means of production. *NM* - 22/03/2010 07:43:19 PM 285 Views
You should delve the debate before getting excited. - 23/03/2010 07:22:36 AM 747 Views
I really like what GRR Martin wrote in his blog. - 23/03/2010 09:55:11 AM 762 Views
I agree with him - 23/03/2010 12:14:47 PM 674 Views
I would say it is rather weak point - 23/03/2010 01:12:43 PM 645 Views
Erm... - 23/03/2010 01:39:58 PM 751 Views
I am pleasantly surprised - 23/03/2010 04:14:52 PM 598 Views
Exceptions? - 24/03/2010 05:08:17 AM 599 Views
I haven't been following it too closely - 23/03/2010 02:10:39 PM 796 Views

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