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You should worry about cost control (AKA the only real reason for healthcare reform to begin. ) Joel Send a noteboard - 23/03/2010 07:02:24 AM
I won't take the debate (I simply don't have the time), but I will say this makes me happy for you. America is actually moving in the direction of what I (in my warped, Scandinavian brain, obviously) think of as a civilised country. I did not think that would ever happen.


I saw what happened in Massachusetts first hand. The space between official and actual is quite great. Personally, I do find this a step in the correct direction as I believe in universal health coverage along the French, Swiss, and Scandinavian models. In particular I like the part about not denying coverage for pre-existing conditions.

Still, I am extremely worried about cost control.

Yet somehow the one thing this bill completely ignores. This is NOT universal health care along the Scandinavian model (in Camillas country, I'm told, private health insurance doesn't exist, not because it's illegal, but because there's no market for it, another fine example of how much better privatization is than government programs. ;)) Forcing everyone to do something at their own expense is not at all the same as making something available to everyone regardless of expense. I'm actually worried this will make cost growth WORSE, because, well, think about it:

300 million people are now REQUIRED to buy healthcare from SOMEONE. If they can't afford it the government will (theoretically) underwrite the costs. Bottom line: There's about to be a MASSIVE increase in the number of health insurance consumers. The only reason insurers have for not demanding as much as they like from people legally required to pay it is competition (assuming the state exchanges don't just replace state monopolies with collusion. )
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surveys are crap anyways. - 22/03/2010 01:59:39 PM 616 Views
That's ignorance speaking. - 22/03/2010 02:02:46 PM 645 Views
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why? *NM* - 23/03/2010 03:37:00 PM 323 Views
Because "populous" is not a noun in English. *NM* - 23/03/2010 03:42:16 PM 317 Views
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damn you phonetics. - 23/03/2010 03:50:33 PM 933 Views
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hollah that. *NM* - 22/03/2010 01:58:47 PM 277 Views
Yes. - 22/03/2010 02:38:03 PM 644 Views
Re: No posts on the bill passing? - 22/03/2010 01:39:14 PM 656 Views
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Re: I chose to read about it first at the NYT, then the WSJ, then the Economist. - 22/03/2010 02:01:07 PM 642 Views
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You should worry about cost control (AKA the only real reason for healthcare reform to begin. ) - 23/03/2010 07:02:24 AM 765 Views
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Sorry, I was out seizing the means of production. *NM* - 22/03/2010 07:43:19 PM 276 Views
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