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I worry the day is coming when the Bastille is stormed. Joel Send a noteboard - 29/03/2010 11:06:31 AM
you are absolutely right. Obama made Wall Street and the banking industry richer and now he has done the same for insurance companies and pharmaceutical companies (stocks also up sharply since Monday's opening bell). Will real cost control happen? Not until the entire country turns into California. The only silver lining for me is that I will likely be tucked in to my permanent dirt nap before the bill finally comes due. You, my friend, won't be so lucky.

It's sad things so often have to come to that, not least because there's usually a lot of collateral damage by people driven past the point of rationality (see Robespierre, Maximillian and Stack, Joe. ) As things stand the whole country remains well on the way toward the same problems CA is having (as with utility deregulation, CA may be a microcosm of the nation as a whole. ) This bill will only accelerate that, since it puts the federal government on the hook for skyrocketing insurance premiums the whole country is now legally obligated to endure. From that perspective the best case scenario may be that since rates will continue to rise well above the rate of inflation, more and more people will decide it's cheaper to pay the "uninsured tax" than premiums only marginally offset by subsidies (IF you qualify. ) We hear talk of how wrong "government control of 1/6 of the economy" is, but no one ever stops to consider what it means that rapidly rising healthcare costs are ALREADY 1/6 of the economy. Put another way, healthcare already costs the nations consumer-taxpayers twice as much as the federal government, and the cost continues rising at an alarming rate.

For me, personally, the best course by far seems to be moving to a country where private health insurance is legal but unmarketable due to federal insurance that covers everyones healthcare as part of taxpayer funded government service. It's perplexing that such places are held up as examples of how wrong government insurance is on the grounds that it works SO well only an idiot would by private insurance. That's a real epic failure (of intellect. ) Granted, I'd rather have a system more like the Brits where non-essential care is only covered by private insurance than one in which taxpayers finance every elective procedure, but if I have to choose between the latter and millions going without critical care, it's a no brainer.

So you're looking forward to being gone in 50 years and I'm trying to leave; wtf happened to this country? Tell me again how we reconcile "Christian family values" with insatiable greed. Understand, I'm not asking for a defense or endorsement of either, just an intellectual exercise in how they can be wed.
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No posts on the bill passing? - 22/03/2010 08:22:27 AM 1546 Views
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I know what you mean. I love hearing that the "majority" are against this. - 22/03/2010 01:57:15 PM 1004 Views
surveys are crap anyways. - 22/03/2010 01:59:39 PM 855 Views
That's ignorance speaking. - 22/03/2010 02:02:46 PM 876 Views
well yah. Sorry, I wasn't meaning to say surveys as a whole are nonsense - 22/03/2010 02:09:42 PM 809 Views
Some are a plurality, some are a majority.... - 22/03/2010 04:01:56 PM 921 Views
But most of them with a high/low don't go into enough detail - 22/03/2010 09:24:29 PM 975 Views
A question? - 23/03/2010 01:11:07 AM 917 Views
I accept that there are situations where leaders must go against popular opinion - 23/03/2010 02:53:00 AM 966 Views
on the other hand *edited stupid spelling error* - 23/03/2010 03:09:47 AM 1038 Views
On a certain level I do agree with you - 23/03/2010 05:14:24 AM 879 Views
I was thinking about this after posting - 23/03/2010 12:12:17 PM 860 Views
Ahahahahahahahaha - 23/03/2010 12:57:17 PM 984 Views
why? *NM* - 23/03/2010 03:37:00 PM 434 Views
Because "populous" is not a noun in English. *NM* - 23/03/2010 03:42:16 PM 411 Views
This. - 23/03/2010 03:46:25 PM 908 Views
damn you phonetics. - 23/03/2010 03:50:33 PM 1154 Views
As Emo Philips would say - 23/03/2010 04:32:52 PM 923 Views
I always laugh when I see someone say people are "retarted" *NM* - 23/03/2010 03:51:46 PM 489 Views
"Get a life, morans!" *NM* - 23/03/2010 03:55:27 PM 430 Views
I think this is one of them - 23/03/2010 12:49:35 PM 1361 Views
A step in the wrong direction. - 22/03/2010 10:38:31 AM 1021 Views
didn't realize it had - 22/03/2010 11:49:36 AM 864 Views
I am happy for it - 22/03/2010 11:55:10 AM 851 Views
The Bill passed? - 22/03/2010 12:27:36 PM 978 Views
I think with the saturation coverage it has been getting people are just worn out *NM* - 22/03/2010 01:27:59 PM 447 Views
hollah that. *NM* - 22/03/2010 01:58:47 PM 391 Views
Yes. - 22/03/2010 02:38:03 PM 863 Views
Re: No posts on the bill passing? - 22/03/2010 01:39:14 PM 870 Views
I chose to read about it first at the NYT, then the WSJ, then the Economist. - 22/03/2010 01:43:07 PM 1054 Views
Re: I chose to read about it first at the NYT, then the WSJ, then the Economist. - 22/03/2010 02:01:07 PM 860 Views
The Bill won't get repealed. Whatever happens in November. - 23/03/2010 12:17:21 AM 886 Views
There are 18 incumbent Dem Senate seats; 41+18<67. - 29/03/2010 11:15:29 AM 894 Views
I am worried. The official reports show that it will actually erase some debt. But . . . - 22/03/2010 01:39:26 PM 995 Views
I think reform had to start now. - 22/03/2010 02:27:11 PM 1075 Views
That's a good column. - 22/03/2010 02:44:56 PM 956 Views
I think the problem highlight what I don't like about this bill - 22/03/2010 03:20:54 PM 889 Views
Re: I think the problem highlight what I don't like about this bill - 22/03/2010 03:33:31 PM 878 Views
Let's be realistic here at least.... - 22/03/2010 04:16:23 PM 877 Views
I hope your house is built on fimrer foundations then your reasoning - 22/03/2010 04:25:49 PM 920 Views
I'm not worried, there are lots of ways to pay for the bill. - 22/03/2010 05:36:39 PM 817 Views
You should worry about cost control (AKA the only real reason for healthcare reform to begin. ) - 23/03/2010 07:02:24 AM 994 Views
bingo - 24/03/2010 03:45:48 AM 1013 Views
Next question: WTF do we do about it? - 24/03/2010 04:00:39 AM 919 Views
sadly probably not a damned thing... - 24/03/2010 04:20:45 AM 862 Views
I worry the day is coming when the Bastille is stormed. - 29/03/2010 11:06:31 AM 960 Views
It is a good start - 22/03/2010 03:01:08 PM 846 Views
Re: It is a good start - 22/03/2010 04:13:28 PM 820 Views
Heh - 22/03/2010 04:21:22 PM 950 Views
Re: Heh - 22/03/2010 04:32:30 PM 858 Views
Re: Heh - 22/03/2010 08:25:05 PM 926 Views
Sorry, I was out seizing the means of production. *NM* - 22/03/2010 07:43:19 PM 376 Views
You should delve the debate before getting excited. - 23/03/2010 07:22:36 AM 959 Views
I really like what GRR Martin wrote in his blog. - 23/03/2010 09:55:11 AM 997 Views
I agree with him - 23/03/2010 12:14:47 PM 876 Views
I would say it is rather weak point - 23/03/2010 01:12:43 PM 867 Views
Erm... - 23/03/2010 01:39:58 PM 979 Views
I am pleasantly surprised - 23/03/2010 04:14:52 PM 787 Views
Exceptions? - 24/03/2010 05:08:17 AM 823 Views
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