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I worry the day is coming when the Bastille is stormed. Joel Send a noteboard - 29/03/2010 11:06:31 AM
you are absolutely right. Obama made Wall Street and the banking industry richer and now he has done the same for insurance companies and pharmaceutical companies (stocks also up sharply since Monday's opening bell). Will real cost control happen? Not until the entire country turns into California. The only silver lining for me is that I will likely be tucked in to my permanent dirt nap before the bill finally comes due. You, my friend, won't be so lucky.

It's sad things so often have to come to that, not least because there's usually a lot of collateral damage by people driven past the point of rationality (see Robespierre, Maximillian and Stack, Joe. ) As things stand the whole country remains well on the way toward the same problems CA is having (as with utility deregulation, CA may be a microcosm of the nation as a whole. ) This bill will only accelerate that, since it puts the federal government on the hook for skyrocketing insurance premiums the whole country is now legally obligated to endure. From that perspective the best case scenario may be that since rates will continue to rise well above the rate of inflation, more and more people will decide it's cheaper to pay the "uninsured tax" than premiums only marginally offset by subsidies (IF you qualify. ) We hear talk of how wrong "government control of 1/6 of the economy" is, but no one ever stops to consider what it means that rapidly rising healthcare costs are ALREADY 1/6 of the economy. Put another way, healthcare already costs the nations consumer-taxpayers twice as much as the federal government, and the cost continues rising at an alarming rate.

For me, personally, the best course by far seems to be moving to a country where private health insurance is legal but unmarketable due to federal insurance that covers everyones healthcare as part of taxpayer funded government service. It's perplexing that such places are held up as examples of how wrong government insurance is on the grounds that it works SO well only an idiot would by private insurance. That's a real epic failure (of intellect. ) Granted, I'd rather have a system more like the Brits where non-essential care is only covered by private insurance than one in which taxpayers finance every elective procedure, but if I have to choose between the latter and millions going without critical care, it's a no brainer.

So you're looking forward to being gone in 50 years and I'm trying to leave; wtf happened to this country? Tell me again how we reconcile "Christian family values" with insatiable greed. Understand, I'm not asking for a defense or endorsement of either, just an intellectual exercise in how they can be wed.
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No posts on the bill passing? - 22/03/2010 08:22:27 AM 1593 Views
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I know what you mean. I love hearing that the "majority" are against this. - 22/03/2010 01:57:15 PM 1066 Views
surveys are crap anyways. - 22/03/2010 01:59:39 PM 916 Views
That's ignorance speaking. - 22/03/2010 02:02:46 PM 944 Views
well yah. Sorry, I wasn't meaning to say surveys as a whole are nonsense - 22/03/2010 02:09:42 PM 866 Views
Some are a plurality, some are a majority.... - 22/03/2010 04:01:56 PM 973 Views
But most of them with a high/low don't go into enough detail - 22/03/2010 09:24:29 PM 1035 Views
A question? - 23/03/2010 01:11:07 AM 979 Views
I accept that there are situations where leaders must go against popular opinion - 23/03/2010 02:53:00 AM 1045 Views
on the other hand *edited stupid spelling error* - 23/03/2010 03:09:47 AM 1094 Views
On a certain level I do agree with you - 23/03/2010 05:14:24 AM 959 Views
I was thinking about this after posting - 23/03/2010 12:12:17 PM 930 Views
Ahahahahahahahaha - 23/03/2010 12:57:17 PM 1050 Views
why? *NM* - 23/03/2010 03:37:00 PM 463 Views
Because "populous" is not a noun in English. *NM* - 23/03/2010 03:42:16 PM 439 Views
This. - 23/03/2010 03:46:25 PM 960 Views
damn you phonetics. - 23/03/2010 03:50:33 PM 1208 Views
As Emo Philips would say - 23/03/2010 04:32:52 PM 984 Views
I always laugh when I see someone say people are "retarted" *NM* - 23/03/2010 03:51:46 PM 521 Views
"Get a life, morans!" *NM* - 23/03/2010 03:55:27 PM 462 Views
I think this is one of them - 23/03/2010 12:49:35 PM 1428 Views
A step in the wrong direction. - 22/03/2010 10:38:31 AM 1081 Views
didn't realize it had - 22/03/2010 11:49:36 AM 910 Views
I am happy for it - 22/03/2010 11:55:10 AM 900 Views
The Bill passed? - 22/03/2010 12:27:36 PM 1047 Views
I think with the saturation coverage it has been getting people are just worn out *NM* - 22/03/2010 01:27:59 PM 474 Views
hollah that. *NM* - 22/03/2010 01:58:47 PM 419 Views
Yes. - 22/03/2010 02:38:03 PM 915 Views
Re: No posts on the bill passing? - 22/03/2010 01:39:14 PM 918 Views
I chose to read about it first at the NYT, then the WSJ, then the Economist. - 22/03/2010 01:43:07 PM 1108 Views
Re: I chose to read about it first at the NYT, then the WSJ, then the Economist. - 22/03/2010 02:01:07 PM 916 Views
The Bill won't get repealed. Whatever happens in November. - 23/03/2010 12:17:21 AM 950 Views
There are 18 incumbent Dem Senate seats; 41+18<67. - 29/03/2010 11:15:29 AM 955 Views
I am worried. The official reports show that it will actually erase some debt. But . . . - 22/03/2010 01:39:26 PM 1051 Views
I think reform had to start now. - 22/03/2010 02:27:11 PM 1138 Views
That's a good column. - 22/03/2010 02:44:56 PM 1015 Views
I think the problem highlight what I don't like about this bill - 22/03/2010 03:20:54 PM 955 Views
Re: I think the problem highlight what I don't like about this bill - 22/03/2010 03:33:31 PM 939 Views
Let's be realistic here at least.... - 22/03/2010 04:16:23 PM 941 Views
I hope your house is built on fimrer foundations then your reasoning - 22/03/2010 04:25:49 PM 986 Views
I'm not worried, there are lots of ways to pay for the bill. - 22/03/2010 05:36:39 PM 871 Views
You should worry about cost control (AKA the only real reason for healthcare reform to begin. ) - 23/03/2010 07:02:24 AM 1050 Views
bingo - 24/03/2010 03:45:48 AM 1073 Views
Next question: WTF do we do about it? - 24/03/2010 04:00:39 AM 982 Views
sadly probably not a damned thing... - 24/03/2010 04:20:45 AM 924 Views
I worry the day is coming when the Bastille is stormed. - 29/03/2010 11:06:31 AM 1024 Views
It is a good start - 22/03/2010 03:01:08 PM 904 Views
Re: It is a good start - 22/03/2010 04:13:28 PM 869 Views
Heh - 22/03/2010 04:21:22 PM 1006 Views
Re: Heh - 22/03/2010 04:32:30 PM 915 Views
Re: Heh - 22/03/2010 08:25:05 PM 993 Views
Sorry, I was out seizing the means of production. *NM* - 22/03/2010 07:43:19 PM 406 Views
You should delve the debate before getting excited. - 23/03/2010 07:22:36 AM 1021 Views
I really like what GRR Martin wrote in his blog. - 23/03/2010 09:55:11 AM 1064 Views
I agree with him - 23/03/2010 12:14:47 PM 930 Views
I would say it is rather weak point - 23/03/2010 01:12:43 PM 935 Views
Erm... - 23/03/2010 01:39:58 PM 1034 Views
I am pleasantly surprised - 23/03/2010 04:14:52 PM 837 Views
Exceptions? - 24/03/2010 05:08:17 AM 875 Views
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