Multi-player was actually pretty simple if you just used it to create your whole party.
Joel Send a noteboard - 08/09/2012 02:19:35 PM
So. Close.
I seriously can't wait to play it again and over the improved multiplayer connectivity which I never could on the old cause I couldn't my head around it.
I'm also thinking about what character I'm playing, something old or new, revisiting Durlag's Tower. Maybe doing a themed party, creating all 6 members. I remember doing a WoT team once. Fighter/Mage. Fighter. Ranger. Cleric/Mage. Bard. Thief. I'm sure you can figure out whom most of them are.
With the reputation system being fixed (so that you don't get mobbed by guards every time you enter a town) I might do an evil party from fantasy literature. Something like:
Gregor Clegane
Sauron (circa Second Age)
Steerpike
Voldemort
Tell me other people do this too?
I seriously can't wait to play it again and over the improved multiplayer connectivity which I never could on the old cause I couldn't my head around it.
I'm also thinking about what character I'm playing, something old or new, revisiting Durlag's Tower. Maybe doing a themed party, creating all 6 members. I remember doing a WoT team once. Fighter/Mage. Fighter. Ranger. Cleric/Mage. Bard. Thief. I'm sure you can figure out whom most of them are.
With the reputation system being fixed (so that you don't get mobbed by guards every time you enter a town) I might do an evil party from fantasy literature. Something like:
Gregor Clegane
Sauron (circa Second Age)
Steerpike
Voldemort
Tell me other people do this too?
The tricky part was remembering that the saved games represented the world only, and the characters remained distinct. However, a bonus to that was that you could give the various stat-increasing Tomes and Manuals in BG1 to a character, export them, then bring them back in and drop the item indefinitely (you did not even need to save the game, just hit "C" and keep going through the character arbitration screen to swap them in and out of games.) In fact, you could do that with any and all items, which is how I wound up with a party full of guys wielding Drizzts scimitars (even if I could not dualwield until BG2.)
Enhanced sounds cool; hopefully it will be available reasonably soon for download on one of the sites that does that. I re-bought BGI and II that way not long ago and still need to re-finish the second, but heartily endorse creating whole parties. The AI is adept at screwing up perfectly good NPCs, both in stat allocation and proficiencies. I favor a F/M, F/T, T, R and Paladin. The last two give access to some decent priest spells at high levels, and healing potions are common enough I do not need much more. F/M/Ts advance so slowly they are not really worth it until near the end of ToB, and straight class thieves come in handy for finding and removing traps, especially at the start; trying to do that with JUST a F/T results in lots of damage because their thief skills just cannot pace the games difficulty level.
Also: If you use multi-player for no other reason, it is worth it to equip everyone with boots of speed. Particularly when you get kits in BGII (or even BGI if modded,) a F/T, T and R (or rather, Stalker,) makes the rest of the party superfluous once they have decent Hide in Shadows and Move Silently skills. You can just hide, waltz up to enemies and backstab three of them to death, then run out of sight, hide and do it all again.
Anyway, never done a pure evil party, no, but creating ones own party is always a good idea because most NPCs are garbage, and the computer always screws them up royally. I always loved Coran both for his stats and for what he is, but he is unavailable until the Cloakwood opens up in Chapter 3, and even going straight there ASAP his proficiencies will be trashed by the time I reach him. On the other hand, I can create my own party and spec them however I like, even start some out as human fighters and dual class them at 9th or 10th level when they are fully specced and no longer getting new HD (if you REALLY want to minmax them, hold out for 13th level so you get the extra 1/2 attack per round, but that usually requires modding the game so there is no XP cap.)
I do not know how you feel about modding in general (believe it or not, I try to keep at a minimum both because I do not know what I am doing and because I do not want to take the challenge out of it) or how possible it will be for Enhanced (modding seems to have inspired much of enhance, but Wes Weimer is too busy teaching CS now to do another series of Weidu mods) but can tell you it really rejuvenated the games for me. Durlags was not nearly so fun the second time as the first though; even a decade later, it is difficult to unlearn things. Well, that was a lot longer than intended; here is hoping BG Enhanced is awesome, and happy gaming.
Honorbound and honored to be Bonded to Mahtaliel Sedai
Last First in wotmania Chat
Slightly better than chocolate.
Love still can't be coerced.
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LoL. Be well, RAFOlk.
Last First in wotmania Chat
Slightly better than chocolate.
Love still can't be coerced.
Please Don't Eat the Newbies!

LoL. Be well, RAFOlk.
This message last edited by Joel on 08/09/2012 at 02:21:56 PM
Baldurs Gate Enhanced Edition: Edit 2 with added video & launch delay
- 07/09/2012 09:48:16 PM
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!!!!!
- 07/09/2012 10:49:47 PM
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I played the hell out of BG2, but only played BG1 once
- 08/09/2012 06:07:15 AM
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BGI is a lot more fun because a lot more challenging, IMHO.
- 08/09/2012 02:33:17 PM
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*revelation*
- 08/09/2012 05:45:28 PM
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You need not be behind them to assassinate (the high level thief ability.)
- 08/09/2012 06:04:31 PM
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ahh yes i remember, every hit is a backstab for 30 seconds or something.
- 08/09/2012 07:07:12 PM
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Right; it is pretty much an instakill, considering the multipliers at the level it becomes available
- 08/09/2012 09:03:47 PM
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fireballs are so epic in BG1
- 08/09/2012 05:41:34 PM
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I disagree about it being the only good third level spell;lighting bolt and haste are also excellent
- 08/09/2012 06:26:08 PM
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Yeah, I loved Lightning Bolt.
- 08/09/2012 06:44:59 PM
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it was such a liability
- 08/09/2012 07:11:36 PM
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Bouncing is what makes lightning bolts great, because you get to hit people more than once.
- 08/09/2012 08:59:10 PM
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There's an unfortunate Wizard in the Firewine Bridge Ruins...
- 09/09/2012 12:58:18 AM
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Oops.
- 09/09/2012 01:43:23 AM
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- 09/09/2012 01:43:23 AM
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that's why BG1 was so awesome. exploration=rewards
- 09/09/2012 09:09:22 AM
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For sure; it made additional playthroughs fun even after beating the game.
- 09/09/2012 04:48:40 PM
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Also, FB and Skull Trap are also almost interchangeable until 10th level, but ST damage is uncapped.
- 09/09/2012 02:02:17 AM
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Multi-player was actually pretty simple if you just used it to create your whole party.
- 08/09/2012 02:19:35 PM
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well yeah, because there was no connection to figure out
- 08/09/2012 06:59:49 PM
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Right; I was never a big multiplayer fan anyway, but customized parties were nice
- 08/09/2012 08:53:45 PM
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Where's the fun in having a customized party and losing all the character interaction, though?
- 09/09/2012 04:03:10 PM
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I dislike most of the BG NPCs anyway, so I do not much feel the lack.
- 09/09/2012 04:45:12 PM
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Re: I dislike most of the BG NPCs anyway, so I do not much feel the lack.
- 10/09/2012 01:23:44 PM
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Suggestion since you're not using the NPCs anyway...
- 15/09/2012 11:34:28 PM
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That is a good thought; I never played IWD.
- 16/09/2012 03:31:01 AM
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Where did you think I just got it?
- 16/09/2012 04:39:43 PM
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- 16/09/2012 04:39:43 PM
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How would I know you just got a game released in the late nineties?
- 17/09/2012 06:57:19 PM
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- 17/09/2012 06:57:19 PM
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Re: How would I know you just got a game released in the late nineties?
- 17/09/2012 11:08:09 PM
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- 17/09/2012 11:08:09 PM
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I still like GURPS' character points best.
- 17/09/2012 11:40:12 PM
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Heh, I'm not surprised.
- 18/09/2012 01:47:55 AM
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If you want to avoid hyperspecialization, avoid classes.
- 18/09/2012 07:36:43 AM
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I've never played GURPS, so I don't know how its system works.
- 18/09/2012 03:32:21 PM
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I recommend it, but it is a bear to run.
- 19/09/2012 03:37:19 AM
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Re: I recommend it, but it is a bear to run.
- 19/09/2012 08:35:24 AM
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It is the difference between "what if...?" and "whatever...."
- 19/09/2012 10:58:31 PM
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Re: It is the difference between "what if...?" and "whatever...."
- 20/09/2012 12:31:10 AM
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AD&D cannot avoid one-sided encounters without restricting epic characters to epic encounters.
- 24/09/2012 05:53:39 AM
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Re: AD&D cannot avoid one-sided encounters without restricting epic characters to epic encounters.
- 24/09/2012 07:03:39 AM
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Things are a little different if you are the GM, yes.
- 24/09/2012 08:33:23 AM
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Re: Things are a little different if you are the GM, yes.
- 24/09/2012 07:24:51 PM
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My point is no one should be at any level.
- 25/09/2012 01:23:21 AM
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Re: My point is no one should be at any level.
- 25/09/2012 03:41:42 AM
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I know no more about AD&D 3rd Ed. than I retain from skimming the book a few times in a store.
- 25/09/2012 05:16:49 AM
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- 25/09/2012 06:05:39 PM
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- 27/09/2012 05:23:13 PM
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I did not realize how awful classes were until liberated from them.
- 28/09/2012 12:49:14 AM
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Re: Things are a little different if you are the GM, yes.
- 24/09/2012 08:45:05 PM
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I thought Yrrth a perfectly fine game world; obviously anything less generic requires some effort.
- 25/09/2012 12:14:09 AM
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GURPS and TV Tropes are a natural fit, so I will throw in a link to their page on it.
- 19/09/2012 03:50:37 AM
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I can't speak for IWD I, but II is okay on the story front so far.
- 18/09/2012 06:36:16 PM
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I've still only played about 4 hours of BG1
- 08/09/2012 03:59:49 PM
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If you have not yet, you should look into the Weidu mods.
- 08/09/2012 06:12:20 PM
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But what's the point in playing the game if you don't use the NPCs?
- 08/09/2012 06:47:38 PM
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Not having a bunch of potentially useful but AI ruined incompetents constantly fumbling.
- 08/09/2012 08:55:53 PM
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Yeah, but optimising the whole group sounds ridiculously easy.
- 09/09/2012 01:03:51 AM
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Well, there are always mods for that.
- 09/09/2012 01:37:42 AM
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For talking to pretty much anyone, really.
- 09/09/2012 03:20:29 AM
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True.
- 09/09/2012 03:46:24 AM
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Well, I usually don't have thieves in my party.
- 09/09/2012 04:56:21 AM
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there wasn't a good enough thief option in bg2/ToB
- 09/09/2012 09:15:21 AM
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I noticed that also; another argument for creating a party via MP even if you move it back to SP.
- 09/09/2012 11:45:12 PM
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Just how many thieves do you even need?
- 10/09/2012 06:22:58 PM
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You can get by with half a thief, yeah, but it forces you to forego maxing out some thief abilities.
- 10/09/2012 06:47:48 PM
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Any suggested parties for beginners? *NM*
- 10/09/2012 01:13:38 AM
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I am completely stoked about it.
- 10/09/2012 07:07:09 PM
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TotSC made BGI a LOT more fun.
- 10/09/2012 07:46:03 PM
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all the kits/races/dual wielding etc will be available in bgee
- 11/09/2012 09:02:35 AM
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Ah; nice.
- 11/09/2012 06:57:14 PM
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i'm not sure they were even state of the art at the time
- 12/09/2012 09:26:05 AM
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Remember, BGI was released only about two years after Doom.
- 13/09/2012 12:05:11 AM
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If by "two" you mean "five," then yes. DOOM was released in 1993.
- 13/09/2012 03:22:58 PM
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Ah, 1998. The golden year. Ocarina of Time. Starcraft. Half-Life. *NM*
- 13/09/2012 04:16:21 PM
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That just reminds me of how sad it is that StarCraft died this year
. *NM*
- 13/09/2012 11:55:28 PM
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. *NM*
- 13/09/2012 11:55:28 PM
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Fair enough; I was thinking of Doom in terms of when I started playing it and Doom II (1995.)
- 14/09/2012 03:56:50 PM
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I don't mind the graphics in it
- 12/09/2012 04:38:47 PM
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Good, me neither, but I have heard others criticize them.
- 12/09/2012 11:51:16 PM
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I used the PS3 web browser as my primary browser for about 3 months
- 13/09/2012 01:13:22 PM
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*nods* I suspected as much, but had no first hand experience confirming it.
- 14/09/2012 04:03:15 PM
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I'm going to ask this here rather than start a new topic as its somewhat related.
- 10/09/2012 07:42:32 PM
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And it now has been delayed till Nov
*NM*
- 15/09/2012 03:52:41 AM
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*NM*
- 15/09/2012 03:52:41 AM
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On another note, shame on all of you for not telling me Jon Irenicus is Ra's Al Ghul
- 15/09/2012 04:19:21 AM
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