Right; it is pretty much an instakill, considering the multipliers at the level it becomes available
Joel Send a noteboard - 08/09/2012 09:03:47 PM
i made an evil half orc assassin once. he was fucking bad ass.
you don't have to be behind people to backstab?
i must have a played the BGs easily over 1000 hours in total and I never did know that
not that it's as straightforward as that, unless you one amazing thief with an unreal THAC0, a lot of the time they air swing and it's a race against time to pile the rest of your team in before they get pulverised!
Although I want to say you need not be behind people to backstab either in BGII, but it is hard to be sure, because when I first played it nearly a decade ago I bought it at a brick and mortar store and when I last played last year I downloaded it from an online store, then added a bunch of Weidu mods.
For the assasination thief ability though, at least in the one I bought from the store, you just hit the ability and then your target and it is pretty much an auto-kill.
RAFO thinks this link is broken, but this is the ability I am talking about, just to be clear: http://playithardcore.com/pihwiki/index.php?title=Baldur%27s_Gate:_Epic_Level_Abilities#Assassination
I got all the way to the last boss fight thinking I had to be behind people to Assassinate; once I realized I could just walk up to even bosses and say, "*poke* you're dead," it was pretty ridiculous.
you don't have to be behind people to backstab?
i must have a played the BGs easily over 1000 hours in total and I never did know that
not that it's as straightforward as that, unless you one amazing thief with an unreal THAC0, a lot of the time they air swing and it's a race against time to pile the rest of your team in before they get pulverised!
Although I want to say you need not be behind people to backstab either in BGII, but it is hard to be sure, because when I first played it nearly a decade ago I bought it at a brick and mortar store and when I last played last year I downloaded it from an online store, then added a bunch of Weidu mods.
For the assasination thief ability though, at least in the one I bought from the store, you just hit the ability and then your target and it is pretty much an auto-kill.
RAFO thinks this link is broken, but this is the ability I am talking about, just to be clear: http://playithardcore.com/pihwiki/index.php?title=Baldur%27s_Gate:_Epic_Level_Abilities#Assassination
And it worked on Mellisan at the end of ToB, so I am pretty sure it will work on anything. Maybe even undead and dragons, since it is not an actual backstab, only has the same effect. I am actually glad I did not find out until the end that I did not have to be behind people, or it would really have been game-breaking once I got the ability, especially since I had not yet realized just how much the experience split hobbles F/M/Ts. Had I walked in there with a F/T, F/M/T AND a thief all assassinating it would have been over in seconds (basically was anyway.)
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Baldurs Gate Enhanced Edition: Edit 2 with added video & launch delay
- 07/09/2012 09:48:16 PM
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!!!!!
- 07/09/2012 10:49:47 PM
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I played the hell out of BG2, but only played BG1 once
- 08/09/2012 06:07:15 AM
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BGI is a lot more fun because a lot more challenging, IMHO.
- 08/09/2012 02:33:17 PM
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*revelation*
- 08/09/2012 05:45:28 PM
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You need not be behind them to assassinate (the high level thief ability.)
- 08/09/2012 06:04:31 PM
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ahh yes i remember, every hit is a backstab for 30 seconds or something.
- 08/09/2012 07:07:12 PM
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Right; it is pretty much an instakill, considering the multipliers at the level it becomes available
- 08/09/2012 09:03:47 PM
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fireballs are so epic in BG1
- 08/09/2012 05:41:34 PM
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I disagree about it being the only good third level spell;lighting bolt and haste are also excellent
- 08/09/2012 06:26:08 PM
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Yeah, I loved Lightning Bolt.
- 08/09/2012 06:44:59 PM
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it was such a liability
- 08/09/2012 07:11:36 PM
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Bouncing is what makes lightning bolts great, because you get to hit people more than once.
- 08/09/2012 08:59:10 PM
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There's an unfortunate Wizard in the Firewine Bridge Ruins...
- 09/09/2012 12:58:18 AM
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Oops. 
- 09/09/2012 01:43:23 AM
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- 09/09/2012 01:43:23 AM
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that's why BG1 was so awesome. exploration=rewards
- 09/09/2012 09:09:22 AM
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For sure; it made additional playthroughs fun even after beating the game.
- 09/09/2012 04:48:40 PM
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Also, FB and Skull Trap are also almost interchangeable until 10th level, but ST damage is uncapped.
- 09/09/2012 02:02:17 AM
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Multi-player was actually pretty simple if you just used it to create your whole party.
- 08/09/2012 02:19:35 PM
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well yeah, because there was no connection to figure out
- 08/09/2012 06:59:49 PM
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Right; I was never a big multiplayer fan anyway, but customized parties were nice
- 08/09/2012 08:53:45 PM
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Where's the fun in having a customized party and losing all the character interaction, though?
- 09/09/2012 04:03:10 PM
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I dislike most of the BG NPCs anyway, so I do not much feel the lack.
- 09/09/2012 04:45:12 PM
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Re: I dislike most of the BG NPCs anyway, so I do not much feel the lack.
- 10/09/2012 01:23:44 PM
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Suggestion since you're not using the NPCs anyway...
- 15/09/2012 11:34:28 PM
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That is a good thought; I never played IWD.
- 16/09/2012 03:31:01 AM
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Where did you think I just got it? 
- 16/09/2012 04:39:43 PM
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- 16/09/2012 04:39:43 PM
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How would I know you just got a game released in the late nineties?
- 17/09/2012 06:57:19 PM
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- 17/09/2012 06:57:19 PM
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Re: How would I know you just got a game released in the late nineties?
- 17/09/2012 11:08:09 PM
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- 17/09/2012 11:08:09 PM
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I still like GURPS' character points best.
- 17/09/2012 11:40:12 PM
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Heh, I'm not surprised.
- 18/09/2012 01:47:55 AM
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If you want to avoid hyperspecialization, avoid classes.
- 18/09/2012 07:36:43 AM
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I've never played GURPS, so I don't know how its system works.
- 18/09/2012 03:32:21 PM
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I recommend it, but it is a bear to run.
- 19/09/2012 03:37:19 AM
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Re: I recommend it, but it is a bear to run.
- 19/09/2012 08:35:24 AM
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It is the difference between "what if...?" and "whatever...."
- 19/09/2012 10:58:31 PM
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Re: It is the difference between "what if...?" and "whatever...."
- 20/09/2012 12:31:10 AM
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AD&D cannot avoid one-sided encounters without restricting epic characters to epic encounters.
- 24/09/2012 05:53:39 AM
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Re: AD&D cannot avoid one-sided encounters without restricting epic characters to epic encounters.
- 24/09/2012 07:03:39 AM
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Things are a little different if you are the GM, yes.
- 24/09/2012 08:33:23 AM
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Re: Things are a little different if you are the GM, yes.
- 24/09/2012 07:24:51 PM
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My point is no one should be at any level.
- 25/09/2012 01:23:21 AM
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Re: My point is no one should be at any level.
- 25/09/2012 03:41:42 AM
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I know no more about AD&D 3rd Ed. than I retain from skimming the book a few times in a store.
- 25/09/2012 05:16:49 AM
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- 25/09/2012 06:05:39 PM
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- 27/09/2012 10:26:16 AM
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- 27/09/2012 05:23:13 PM
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I did not realize how awful classes were until liberated from them.
- 28/09/2012 12:49:14 AM
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Re: Things are a little different if you are the GM, yes.
- 24/09/2012 08:45:05 PM
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I thought Yrrth a perfectly fine game world; obviously anything less generic requires some effort.
- 25/09/2012 12:14:09 AM
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GURPS and TV Tropes are a natural fit, so I will throw in a link to their page on it.
- 19/09/2012 03:50:37 AM
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I can't speak for IWD I, but II is okay on the story front so far.
- 18/09/2012 06:36:16 PM
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I've still only played about 4 hours of BG1
- 08/09/2012 03:59:49 PM
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If you have not yet, you should look into the Weidu mods.
- 08/09/2012 06:12:20 PM
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But what's the point in playing the game if you don't use the NPCs?
- 08/09/2012 06:47:38 PM
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Not having a bunch of potentially useful but AI ruined incompetents constantly fumbling.
- 08/09/2012 08:55:53 PM
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Yeah, but optimising the whole group sounds ridiculously easy.
- 09/09/2012 01:03:51 AM
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Well, there are always mods for that.
- 09/09/2012 01:37:42 AM
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For talking to pretty much anyone, really.
- 09/09/2012 03:20:29 AM
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True.
- 09/09/2012 03:46:24 AM
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Well, I usually don't have thieves in my party.
- 09/09/2012 04:56:21 AM
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there wasn't a good enough thief option in bg2/ToB
- 09/09/2012 09:15:21 AM
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I noticed that also; another argument for creating a party via MP even if you move it back to SP.
- 09/09/2012 11:45:12 PM
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Just how many thieves do you even need?
- 10/09/2012 06:22:58 PM
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You can get by with half a thief, yeah, but it forces you to forego maxing out some thief abilities.
- 10/09/2012 06:47:48 PM
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Any suggested parties for beginners? *NM*
- 10/09/2012 01:13:38 AM
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I am completely stoked about it.
- 10/09/2012 07:07:09 PM
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TotSC made BGI a LOT more fun.
- 10/09/2012 07:46:03 PM
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all the kits/races/dual wielding etc will be available in bgee
- 11/09/2012 09:02:35 AM
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Ah; nice.
- 11/09/2012 06:57:14 PM
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i'm not sure they were even state of the art at the time
- 12/09/2012 09:26:05 AM
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Remember, BGI was released only about two years after Doom.
- 13/09/2012 12:05:11 AM
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If by "two" you mean "five," then yes. DOOM was released in 1993.
- 13/09/2012 03:22:58 PM
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Ah, 1998. The golden year. Ocarina of Time. Starcraft. Half-Life. *NM*
- 13/09/2012 04:16:21 PM
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That just reminds me of how sad it is that StarCraft died this year 
. *NM*
- 13/09/2012 11:55:28 PM
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. *NM*
- 13/09/2012 11:55:28 PM
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Fair enough; I was thinking of Doom in terms of when I started playing it and Doom II (1995.)
- 14/09/2012 03:56:50 PM
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I don't mind the graphics in it
- 12/09/2012 04:38:47 PM
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Good, me neither, but I have heard others criticize them.
- 12/09/2012 11:51:16 PM
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I used the PS3 web browser as my primary browser for about 3 months
- 13/09/2012 01:13:22 PM
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*nods* I suspected as much, but had no first hand experience confirming it.
- 14/09/2012 04:03:15 PM
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I'm going to ask this here rather than start a new topic as its somewhat related.
- 10/09/2012 07:42:32 PM
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And it now has been delayed till Nov 
*NM*
- 15/09/2012 03:52:41 AM
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*NM*
- 15/09/2012 03:52:41 AM
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On another note, shame on all of you for not telling me Jon Irenicus is Ra's Al Ghul
- 15/09/2012 04:19:21 AM
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