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Where's the fun in having a customized party and losing all the character interaction, though? Legolas Send a noteboard - 09/09/2012 04:03:10 PM
I've been replaying SoA with a neutral-evil party primarily because of the Viconia romance and because of Edwin - if I just have six customized characters, no doubt they'll be stronger (and so blast through SoA and ToB), but you lose so much of what makes the story fun?

Don't really play BG1, but the same applies, you would think.
Not in BGI, because there is only the one set you get on your way down to flood the mines. In BGII, maybe, because you get a set there plus you can use mithril tokens to get another on your way out of Spellhold. Two thieves is the bare minimum to do the stab-and-run schtick though; I like to throw in a Stalker for good measure, send in the "scout" half of the party to drop half the bad guys and then have the spellcasters follow in the other half to mop up anything left.

For sure in BGII / ToB. My ToB party has five pairs of boots of speed (entirely legally, that is); the sixth is my PC, a monk, who doesn't need it. Incidentally, monks seem to be the most overpowered of them all. My monk has a magic resistance of 93 as well as decent AC, excellent THAC0 and various other advantages like poison immunity, natural haste, hide in shadows/move silently (no backstab, but she really doesn't need it) and various special abilities that give tons of extra hits; between her and Sarevok I sometimes don't even bother to involve the rest of my party in fights. Turns out the 3 magic resistance per monk level caps out only after 25-ish levels; with a magic resistance amulet and the machine in Watcher's Keep on top of that, the result is near-magic immunity (plus excellent saving throws for the spells that aren't resisted). With enough healing potions to make up for the relatively low HP, she's close to unstoppable.
BG2 really irritates me in that you can't make a decent wholly evil team. there are loads of goody goods to choose from, but you have to have nutty jan or fragile haer'dalies who despite it all still don't really like being truly evil.

Should be doable in ToB, at least? Korgan and Sarevok for the muscle, Viconia for the healing, Edwin for the spells, plus PC. Okay, that leaves one slot for a neutral, but you can take one that isn't too goody good (personally, I keep Imoen in every party pretty much no matter what, but I guess she's not even neutral, so perhaps Valygar or so is better).
At least you get a hot platinum blonde drow who pulls her own weight. :P

And more than that, with Greater Restoration. Ridiculous spell, honestly.
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*revelation* - 08/09/2012 05:45:28 PM 1169 Views
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it was such a liability - 08/09/2012 07:11:36 PM 1194 Views
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Where's the fun in having a customized party and losing all the character interaction, though? - 09/09/2012 04:03:10 PM 1257 Views
I dislike most of the BG NPCs anyway, so I do not much feel the lack. - 09/09/2012 04:45:12 PM 1374 Views
Re: I dislike most of the BG NPCs anyway, so I do not much feel the lack. - 10/09/2012 01:23:44 PM 1222 Views
Agreed. - 11/09/2012 07:01:07 PM 1250 Views
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I can't speak for IWD I, but II is okay on the story front so far. - 18/09/2012 06:36:16 PM 1131 Views
Nah, IWD I barely had any story at all. - 18/09/2012 08:16:49 PM 1063 Views
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I've still only played about 4 hours of BG1 - 08/09/2012 03:59:49 PM 1227 Views
If you have not yet, you should look into the Weidu mods. - 08/09/2012 06:12:20 PM 1121 Views
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agreed the NPCs are half the fun - 08/09/2012 07:02:22 PM 1163 Views
Not having a bunch of potentially useful but AI ruined incompetents constantly fumbling. - 08/09/2012 08:55:53 PM 1252 Views
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For talking to pretty much anyone, really. - 09/09/2012 03:20:29 AM 1174 Views
True. - 09/09/2012 03:46:24 AM 1178 Views
Well, I usually don't have thieves in my party. - 09/09/2012 04:56:21 AM 1123 Views
there wasn't a good enough thief option in bg2/ToB - 09/09/2012 09:15:21 AM 1083 Views
I noticed that also; another argument for creating a party via MP even if you move it back to SP. - 09/09/2012 11:45:12 PM 1194 Views
storyline man! - 10/09/2012 01:43:51 PM 1149 Views
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Among many many others. - 17/09/2012 06:45:33 PM 1137 Views

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