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Seriously you are saying firing the person in charge of an investigation does not affect the Roland00 Send a noteboard - 11/05/2017 09:23:38 PM

Seriously you are saying firing the person in charge of an investigation does not affect the investigation. Even if he is not involved with the day to day work, he is still the guy who has to request the money and so on. He is involved even if he is not involved, and removing said person is possibly going to jetison the whole thing either with the temporary deputy who is now acting FBI director or with whoever Trump replaces him with once the Senate eventually confirms the new FBI director or Trump recess appoints one.

And while we can't see the future, we can use the past to guide us, we can look at other democracies and what happens when a president fires the investigators into the federal branch...and let's just say it is not good for how many times this was smooth sailing and conductive towards a better functioning democracy.

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Sure Congress has its own investigation, but that investigation is not going anywhere due to congress not wanting to hire people and not wanting to spend money and thus it appears it was not serious as of last week.

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/04/27/russia-investigations-joke-donna-brazile-215080


Part of the problem is that the panel doesn't have enough staffers to do anything. The Daily Beast pointed out that there are currently only seven staffers working on the Senate investigation—all of them part-time! One of them even has to balance investigative duties with attending law school part-time. It was heartening that the committee this week—after the Yahoo and Daily Beast stories—announced the hiring of April Doss, a respected former lawyer for the National Security Agency, as a special counsel. But to put things into perspective, Politics USA points out that the House Benghazi Committee had 46 staffers and 8 interns. The special commission looking into Saddam Hussein’s weapons of mass destruction had 88 staffers, and a joint House-Senate probe of Iran-Contra had 181 staffers. In short, if the Senate Intelligence Committee is our last, best hope, then we have very little hope. And we desperately need hope.

7 Staffers, all part time.

Read the whole article I just did one of the most damning quotes but there were several more in the article.

Edit 1 and 2 I forgot how RAFO does its markup and html for Quote boxes.

Politico, the article I referenced above.
This message last edited by Roland00 on 11/05/2017 at 09:24:23 PM
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Comey was fired today.. Urza - 10/05/2017 05:41:17 AM 1117 Views
It's hard to make this look good. And I'm dubious of their reasons. *NM* Ghavrel - 10/05/2017 06:19:12 AM 208 Views
With the media emotionally tied to selling Trump chatted it will be a hard sell. *NM* random thoughts - 10/05/2017 05:20:27 PM 241 Views
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Especially since there are allegations that Trump didn't have reasons but ordered them to be found. Ghavrel - 10/05/2017 08:20:05 AM 455 Views
Please...this is totally overblown Tom - 10/05/2017 03:58:49 PM 385 Views
What question marks? I know that is the talking point but they stop there random thoughts - 10/05/2017 05:24:59 PM 372 Views
It doesn't necessarily have to be about Trump personally. Legolas - 10/05/2017 08:13:12 PM 520 Views
There is zero evidence that Flynn colluded with the Russians on the campaign random thoughts - 10/05/2017 09:36:20 PM 375 Views
Aren't you confusing several things? Legolas - 11/05/2017 07:16:21 PM 352 Views
How many of those people telling there is something there despite any evidence are political enemies *NM* random thoughts - 13/05/2017 01:22:59 AM 283 Views
Sigh that is an arguement of rhetoric and not logic. Roland00 - 13/05/2017 06:08:25 AM 385 Views
Agreed on all points. *NM* The Shrike - 11/05/2017 04:26:32 PM 239 Views
I read he found out by seeing it on the news. Aviendha - 10/05/2017 08:42:28 AM 526 Views
I heard he found out because he's one of Trump's twitter followers *NM* aerocontrols - 10/05/2017 01:58:10 PM 226 Views
I've seen it now. Aviendha - 10/05/2017 10:11:59 PM 386 Views
I read that too Sareitha Sedai - 10/05/2017 02:18:29 PM 516 Views
He was speaking on the west coast, at a FBI event Roland00 - 11/05/2017 04:48:32 AM 375 Views
Mitch McConnell isn't worried, so I'm sure it's fine. *NM* nossy - 10/05/2017 03:53:58 PM 253 Views
Sarcasm aside, have you seen even a shred of evidence that it was improper? Tom - 10/05/2017 04:01:46 PM 454 Views
Are these like the "shreds of evidence" people threw up all over me about how corrupt Clinton is? nossy - 10/05/2017 04:35:29 PM 423 Views
When did we start investigating a sitting president when there is zero recurrence her was involved? random thoughts - 10/05/2017 05:34:50 PM 454 Views
When which now? nossy - 10/05/2017 06:10:11 PM 371 Views
Can you point to single piece of evidence tying Trump campaign worker's to the email hacks? random thoughts - 10/05/2017 09:47:00 PM 374 Views
Can *I*? No. But then I'm a landscape designer living in the UK. nossy - 10/05/2017 11:03:56 PM 382 Views
Let's just take that one extra step Tom - 11/05/2017 02:51:49 PM 424 Views
Heh, well that must be terrible for you. nossy - 11/05/2017 03:40:16 PM 525 Views
Not even the president is required to prove his innocence random thoughts - 11/05/2017 04:06:30 PM 430 Views
But firing the person leading an investigation isn't how to determine one's innocence, hence nossy - 11/05/2017 04:19:13 PM 406 Views
If the same people claiming it was suspicious weren't the same ones calling for him to be fired random thoughts - 11/05/2017 05:50:12 PM 448 Views
But the firing doesn't affect the investigation Tom - 11/05/2017 07:04:01 PM 351 Views
Seriously you are saying firing the person in charge of an investigation does not affect the Roland00 - 11/05/2017 09:23:38 PM 490 Views
I can't point to a single piece of evidence that you can see, but I can point to evidence that is in Roland00 - 11/05/2017 05:33:32 AM 435 Views
I can't prove that the NSA isn't using brain control waves but I still don't wear a tin foil hat *NM* random thoughts - 11/05/2017 04:09:57 PM 277 Views
No I can't argue against a negative Roland00 - 11/05/2017 04:45:18 AM 391 Views
I'm only surprised it didn't happen earlier Tom - 10/05/2017 03:56:10 PM 408 Views
Doesn't that feel like The Point? nossy - 10/05/2017 06:39:00 PM 434 Views
How can Trump prove a negative, though? Tom - 14/05/2017 09:52:47 PM 465 Views
Indeed it does. And a lot of people rather doubt Trump would nominate someone like that. Legolas - 10/05/2017 08:00:53 PM 500 Views
That op-ed was a complete waste of time to read Tom - 11/05/2017 07:21:15 PM 352 Views
You should be glad I didn't go with the Guardian's take then. Legolas - 11/05/2017 08:00:32 PM 420 Views
I think you're full of shit, too. Tom - 12/05/2017 06:25:59 AM 352 Views
The funny thing with Trump is... Legolas - 17/05/2017 06:13:54 PM 649 Views
The drama isn't coming from the White House, though Tom - 17/05/2017 07:48:34 PM 409 Views
The drama is coming from two sources. Both of them located, at least in part, in the White House. Legolas - 17/05/2017 09:02:15 PM 680 Views
Sorry that wss nothing but partisan babble *NM* random thoughts - 12/05/2017 02:30:36 AM 289 Views
Hint: when a good amount of Republicans are saying the same thing, the word is 'bipartisan'. *NM* Legolas - 12/05/2017 07:26:16 AM 217 Views
You'd think some of the HRC diehard types would be cheering. *NM* Vodalus - 10/05/2017 10:24:28 PM 248 Views
A normal president would ask for a resignation instead of firing Roland00 - 11/05/2017 04:25:11 AM 384 Views
Sorry l all heard was two legs good four legs bad baaa baa baa *NM* random thoughts - 11/05/2017 05:53:21 PM 287 Views
"The river tells no lies, though standing on the shore the dishonest man still hears them." *NM* Roland00 - 11/05/2017 09:14:00 PM 821 Views
I'm sick to death of all this shit. damookster - 11/05/2017 05:10:26 PM 361 Views
Yes. nossy - 12/05/2017 10:19:19 AM 296 Views
pics or it didn't happen *NM* damookster - 12/05/2017 04:08:18 PM 250 Views
Mookie do not be sick, and do not call upon the spectre of death onto yourself Roland00 - 12/05/2017 03:30:06 PM 339 Views
I will never reach senility damookster - 12/05/2017 04:09:54 PM 450 Views
damned double post - ironic considering the subject line *NM* damookster - 12/05/2017 04:09:54 PM 231 Views
Says the guy who doubles post Roland00 - 12/05/2017 04:13:16 PM 356 Views
I'll take door number two, thank you very much. *NM* damookster - 12/05/2017 04:20:54 PM 218 Views
Mookie your Yodaish is still a work in progress Roland00 - 12/05/2017 04:33:07 PM 366 Views
So Trump admits 48 hours later, Comey was fired due to Russia, yet he claimed earlier it was due to Roland00 - 12/05/2017 03:25:23 PM 380 Views
Hint call it what you well but when it the bias leads that hard it is nothing but agenda given propa *NM* random thoughts - 13/05/2017 01:28:12 AM 251 Views
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