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an apt comparison damookster Send a noteboard - 28/06/2017 11:09:25 PM


In rather the same way that victims of crime aren't taking care of themselves and are responsible for their own lives, yes, I suppose so...


Like burglary victims who leave their doors unlocked while posting on Facebook from the venue they will be at for the next few hours? Or the car theft victim who left the keys in the ignition and the windows open? In that case, we agree.

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Case study of the damage liberalism can do - $15 Min Wage Anonymous2000 - 27/06/2017 01:54:54 AM 1711 Views
Seattle is a poor choice for a case study damookster - 27/06/2017 05:31:18 AM 1084 Views
Well, sure, but many of those non-entry level jobs are being held by baby boomers. Ghavrel - 27/06/2017 06:09:40 AM 1090 Views
That's at least in part because the minimum wage makes automation more cost-effective Cannoli - 27/06/2017 11:04:28 AM 960 Views
Exactly. If you have to pay people $15/hour as a McDonald's cashier, put in the robots instead. Tom - 27/06/2017 07:18:11 PM 1010 Views
That is an incredibly silly argument. Ghavrel - 27/06/2017 08:56:09 PM 1024 Views
If you assume wages can't go lower... Cannoli - 29/06/2017 04:52:33 AM 1057 Views
Many? damookster - 27/06/2017 12:30:39 PM 1050 Views
Amen. Tom - 27/06/2017 07:21:47 PM 1035 Views
Yes, many. My office is full of them. Ghavrel - 27/06/2017 08:59:55 PM 963 Views
So is life. damookster - 27/06/2017 09:29:01 PM 983 Views
Re: So is life. Ghavrel - 27/06/2017 09:49:21 PM 987 Views
My father worked two jobs his entire working life. damookster - 27/06/2017 09:56:56 PM 1013 Views
We have a 40 hour work week for a reason. Ghavrel - 27/06/2017 10:17:15 PM 1052 Views
That's a piss-poor analogy damookster - 27/06/2017 10:23:04 PM 979 Views
How is that really relevant, then? Ghavrel - 27/06/2017 11:03:34 PM 953 Views
I am really enjoying this new-fangled "like" feature we have now. *NM* Clover - 28/06/2017 12:13:42 AM 694 Views
*NM* Ghavrel - 28/06/2017 12:25:45 AM 561 Views
Personal choice damookster - 28/06/2017 12:20:47 AM 1075 Views
Re: Personal choice Ghavrel - 28/06/2017 12:32:31 AM 1053 Views
In theory I agree with your ideas about a living wage, however The Shrike - 28/06/2017 12:16:56 PM 1064 Views
Very good questions Tom - 28/06/2017 03:01:02 PM 995 Views
FULLY AUTOMATED LUXURY SPACE COMMUNISM. Ghavrel - 28/06/2017 07:49:59 PM 1172 Views
Also, curtailing immigration, like keeping the minimum wage low, really only delays the inevitable. Ghavrel - 29/06/2017 11:05:58 PM 1011 Views
damn *NM* damookster - 27/06/2017 09:29:01 PM 638 Views
Just retire already, you luddite! *NM* Ghavrel - 27/06/2017 09:45:46 PM 604 Views
I wish. damookster - 27/06/2017 09:48:02 PM 1019 Views
Bad life decisions lead to bad life consequences random thoughts - 28/06/2017 05:44:58 PM 998 Views
You also shouldn't respond to it by letting them die. Ghavrel - 28/06/2017 07:53:10 PM 1009 Views
But this same arguement can be flipped by.... Jeordam - 28/06/2017 10:34:25 PM 1071 Views
I feel like you're making my arguments for me here. Ghavrel - 28/06/2017 10:51:38 PM 1119 Views
an apt comparison damookster - 28/06/2017 11:09:25 PM 968 Views
So everyone who "can't" nossy - 29/06/2017 09:49:41 AM 1016 Views
ummm damookster - 29/06/2017 02:06:54 PM 923 Views
I know. And I disagree with you. nossy - 29/06/2017 04:58:45 PM 1037 Views
Health care and minimum wage are different discussions damookster - 29/06/2017 05:14:07 PM 1057 Views
I think nossy and I are ok with letting lazy people get by... Ghavrel - 29/06/2017 08:11:36 PM 999 Views
Si nossy - 29/06/2017 09:08:03 PM 1021 Views
Who said that? damookster - 29/06/2017 09:47:32 PM 1080 Views
Who said what? nossy - 29/06/2017 10:32:12 PM 954 Views
There is a huge difference.... Jeordam - 29/06/2017 05:10:05 PM 1015 Views
Hyperbole is all well and good for internet memes but it really doesn' advance your argument. random thoughts - 03/07/2017 04:22:59 PM 938 Views
Why does McDonalds keep coming up in this? Cannoli - 29/06/2017 06:53:46 AM 1177 Views
Nicely said. Or written. *NM* AgentApple - 29/06/2017 09:30:06 AM 602 Views
All right, so what society without minimum wage do you point to as a model? *NM* Ghavrel - 29/06/2017 09:39:12 AM 617 Views
How about "all the ones we had before the 20th century"? Cannoli - 29/06/2017 10:47:30 PM 1151 Views
The ones where hunger and scarcity were widespread? Ghavrel - 29/06/2017 11:04:02 PM 974 Views
So just to put this out there... Jeordam - 29/06/2017 11:12:47 PM 965 Views
Re: So just to put this out there... Ghavrel - 30/06/2017 01:34:03 AM 920 Views
Yes, and me being SUCH a fan of urbanization... Cannoli - 30/06/2017 03:39:51 PM 1170 Views
The example for this post was for Seattle, or perhaps King County only. damookster - 29/06/2017 11:49:32 PM 1078 Views
"Attract labor"? Minimum wage labor? I believe you mean, violently repell businesses Cannoli - 30/06/2017 03:31:36 PM 1053 Views
Like anything else not addressed in the Constitution, it should be up to state and local government damookster - 30/06/2017 05:22:51 PM 1067 Views
I for one am entirely unsuprised. Common sense result. *NM* Urza - 27/06/2017 06:23:01 AM 643 Views
Seems like a methodology to identify struggling operations more than one to evaluate... Vodalus - 27/06/2017 10:25:30 AM 996 Views
But the traffic is the WORST. Clover - 28/06/2017 12:47:13 AM 1141 Views
You are a Husky? TIL clover is one of the Huskies. Roland00 - 28/06/2017 02:26:46 AM 938 Views
Re: But the traffic is the WORST. Vodalus - 28/06/2017 10:38:54 AM 1010 Views
Just to nitpick, Switzerland isn't exactly homogeneous. Legolas - 28/06/2017 10:28:01 PM 1030 Views
Don't say "liberalism" - there's nothing liberal about them. Say "Leftism". *NM* Tom - 27/06/2017 05:07:36 PM 573 Views
I was thinking the same. Even in the US, that's a weird context to use that word in. *NM* Legolas - 27/06/2017 05:50:21 PM 580 Views
Most Americans have no idea about the historical context of Liberalism. The Shrike - 27/06/2017 06:03:38 PM 985 Views
But even so, surely even in the US the main connotation is with social progressives, not economic? Legolas - 27/06/2017 06:28:54 PM 978 Views
I think it started to change in the 1980s Tom - 27/06/2017 07:14:26 PM 886 Views
Re: I think it started to change in the 1980s Ghavrel - 27/06/2017 09:05:23 PM 967 Views
Whether or not their views are shitty is a subjective determination Tom - 27/06/2017 11:15:22 PM 993 Views
A decade under conservative deans would fix the situation nicely, I think. Ghavrel - 27/06/2017 11:24:41 PM 925 Views
Yes! I wonder what Dean Wormer from Faber is doing these days... *NM* Tom - 28/06/2017 12:03:46 AM 465 Views
So I've been thinking through this whole minimum wage thing.... Jeordam - 28/06/2017 05:47:26 PM 1069 Views
It varies fairly significantly from location to location. MIT has a decent calculator. Ghavrel - 28/06/2017 07:56:41 PM 1528 Views
Re: So I've been thinking through this whole minimum wage thing.... Cannoli - 29/06/2017 05:08:56 AM 1088 Views
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