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I know. And I disagree with you. nossy Send a noteboard - 29/06/2017 04:58:45 PM

View original postMy point was the analogy was idiotic.

It's not bad, but does depend on your PoV. If someone is stuck spinning their wheels within the system, and can't seem to get further of their own volition/skills/etc, the point is that it's not exactly their fault they have to chose between medical care for a child and eating. People who are forced to make such a terrible choice every day aren't just lazy, stupid, etc (though obv some will be), they are set up for failure. Not on purpose, but that makes no difference to the life in question. Same as the victim of a crime may have no choice, and has to deal with the fall-out, regardless.

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How is that really relevant, then? - 27/06/2017 11:03:34 PM 889 Views
I am really enjoying this new-fangled "like" feature we have now. *NM* - 28/06/2017 12:13:42 AM 648 Views
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FULLY AUTOMATED LUXURY SPACE COMMUNISM. - 28/06/2017 07:49:59 PM 1079 Views
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But this same arguement can be flipped by.... - 28/06/2017 10:34:25 PM 1011 Views
I feel like you're making my arguments for me here. - 28/06/2017 10:51:38 PM 1036 Views
an apt comparison - 28/06/2017 11:09:25 PM 900 Views
So everyone who "can't" - 29/06/2017 09:49:41 AM 938 Views
ummm - 29/06/2017 02:06:54 PM 856 Views
I know. And I disagree with you. - 29/06/2017 04:58:45 PM 979 Views
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Si - 29/06/2017 09:08:03 PM 959 Views
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Who said what? - 29/06/2017 10:32:12 PM 892 Views
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Nicely said. Or written. *NM* - 29/06/2017 09:30:06 AM 546 Views
All right, so what society without minimum wage do you point to as a model? *NM* - 29/06/2017 09:39:12 AM 574 Views
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The ones where hunger and scarcity were widespread? - 29/06/2017 11:04:02 PM 918 Views
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Just to nitpick, Switzerland isn't exactly homogeneous. - 28/06/2017 10:28:01 PM 969 Views

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