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I'm not talking about DNA. nossy Send a noteboard - 13/09/2017 02:55:26 PM

View original postJust like you can't change your species, or your age, or your race. You either have the XX chromosome or the XY. Mutilating your body to imitate the other sex doesn't change that.

I don't personally know any better, but given that one can feel like a man or a woman, and can see the physical morphology, I'd imagine those two points would be the focus. The actual chromosomes, being invisible and unchangeable, are possibly irrelevant re: emotional satisfaction.
View original postSexual identity problems should be treated the same way any other mental issue is treated. One article that I read drew a very good parallel with body integrity identity disorder, where people feel "wrong" unless and until a part of their body is removed or they achieve some other handicapped status (blind, deaf, etc.).

Of course. Study it, learn which solutions work best against the main issue for the individual. I strongly disagree that it's a simple yes or no answer for every person struggling with identity. If we treated every diagnosis as though it had one answer, we'd struggle to help the individual appropriately. Some need medicine, some don't. And there are so many methods and permutations of therapy.

I have no skin in the game, but if more people are "saved" from suicide, and are offered healthier (by personal definition) lives through sex-changes, I genuinely don't see how it's any of my business. I wouldn't tell anyone not to get a boob job or other plastic surgery, either, even though I think those things are crazy (for me).

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WHAT. THE. SHIT?! - 11/09/2017 11:58:15 PM 1274 Views
As usual, I'm going to breeze past most of the nonsense here. - 12/09/2017 02:27:37 AM 673 Views
Oh, for sure. - 12/09/2017 10:55:59 PM 575 Views
Just like cancer--it's natural, so it can't be bad. - 13/09/2017 12:37:16 AM 534 Views
You say my argument isn't good, so you rebut with... that? - 13/09/2017 02:01:04 AM 563 Views
Are you familiar with the suicide rates of people experiencing dysphoria? - 13/09/2017 02:10:44 AM 499 Views
Sigh - 13/09/2017 04:28:34 AM 609 Views
Actually - 13/09/2017 12:46:03 PM 469 Views
You can't change your sex. - 13/09/2017 02:06:05 PM 859 Views
I'm not talking about DNA. - 13/09/2017 02:55:26 PM 473 Views
I wouldn't care, either, if not for the demand for official recognition. - 13/09/2017 03:41:34 PM 611 Views
What are they asking for that bothers you? *NM* - 13/09/2017 04:07:19 PM 298 Views
He repeatedly said so in his posts. - 13/09/2017 04:24:15 PM 609 Views
Yes, thank you for mansplaining. - 13/09/2017 05:23:59 PM 459 Views
Cannoli is right. I was pretty clear about what bothers me. - 13/09/2017 08:49:12 PM 508 Views
I did expect more - 13/09/2017 10:36:36 PM 535 Views
I thought I provided it. Adherence to logic, facts and reality. - 13/09/2017 10:41:39 PM 543 Views
No, you did. - 13/09/2017 11:16:18 PM 523 Views
I agree with this. - 13/09/2017 04:34:19 PM 473 Views
Yeah, they are. - 14/09/2017 03:29:07 AM 508 Views
LOL - 14/09/2017 06:06:28 AM 505 Views
You replace that "M" with an "L", and change the "no" to an "a".... - 14/09/2017 06:17:06 AM 538 Views
... yet. *NM* - 13/09/2017 07:26:56 PM 319 Views
Congratulations. You've begun arguing for transition. - 13/09/2017 03:08:32 PM 479 Views
Don't forget.... - 13/09/2017 07:27:41 PM 444 Views
I repeat, you do not fix your problems by maiming yourself. - 13/09/2017 09:56:36 PM 466 Views
So your suggestion is to keep the suicide rate staggeringly high. Excellent solution. - 13/09/2017 11:03:42 PM 534 Views
Nice strawman. - 14/09/2017 02:42:01 AM 447 Views
And in the meantime, while your miracle drugs and therapies are being developed... *NM* - 14/09/2017 03:08:55 AM 346 Views
Don't allow them to maim themselves. It's that simple. I don't get why you don't get it. - 14/09/2017 03:18:20 AM 568 Views
Because you're saying "don't do this thing that makes you less likely to kill yourself." - 14/09/2017 05:46:13 AM 456 Views
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In fairness to Ghavrel... - 14/09/2017 11:15:04 PM 498 Views
Oh, thank you! Your hyperbolic sarcasm has opened my eyes! - 15/09/2017 06:28:35 AM 442 Views
I thought your latest replies were slacking off a bit, so I resumed your best arguments from before. - 15/09/2017 07:22:04 AM 515 Views
You're not even making sense. - 15/09/2017 05:46:04 PM 506 Views
If only stamina were enough to win a debate. - 15/09/2017 08:00:26 PM 548 Views
Oh! Haha! I don't know how I missed the humor there! - 15/09/2017 08:42:50 PM 432 Views
Yeah, most people feel that way when they're being mocked. *NM* - 15/09/2017 09:00:32 PM 319 Views
This is pretty sad on multiple levels.... - 12/09/2017 10:45:17 PM 539 Views
Transgenderism is the Twenty First Century's phrenology *NM* - 13/09/2017 12:25:29 AM 346 Views
So how to protect little Pat from - 13/09/2017 04:32:44 PM 485 Views
You seem either confused on what that means, or leaping to rather unjustified conclusions. - 13/09/2017 06:29:47 PM 453 Views
I missed that part.... - 13/09/2017 07:00:17 PM 440 Views
Not confused about the syndrome. Was the kid in the article/news segment named 'Pat'? - 13/09/2017 07:06:08 PM 453 Views
Patrick, yes. - 13/09/2017 07:08:37 PM 450 Views
Doctor shopping, of course - 13/09/2017 07:24:20 PM 512 Views
I doubt it's that easy. But what makes this different from other conditions in that regard? *NM* - 13/09/2017 07:34:30 PM 321 Views
Because it's not wrong...? - 15/09/2017 05:53:24 PM 472 Views
I suppose. I meant on the doctors approving treatment side. - 15/09/2017 08:10:59 PM 527 Views
That is one of the draw back of the US medical system - 18/09/2017 05:02:38 PM 470 Views
HAHAHAHA!!!! - 13/09/2017 07:07:08 PM 392 Views
You ain't lyin' about that. - 14/09/2017 04:06:48 AM 524 Views
I find the things they're doing with young people on this issue very troubling. - 14/09/2017 03:58:05 AM 521 Views
I think this is an eminently reasonable viewpoint. - 14/09/2017 05:49:00 AM 572 Views

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