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They cause permanent alterations to their bodies through the use of medicine. Ghavrel Send a noteboard - 16/09/2017 07:11:57 AM

Some people undergo brain surgery to better effectuate therapeutic methods.

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WHAT. THE. SHIT?! Cannoli - 11/09/2017 11:58:15 PM 1174 Views
As usual, I'm going to breeze past most of the nonsense here. Ghavrel - 12/09/2017 02:27:37 AM 579 Views
Oh, for sure. TyrReborn - 12/09/2017 10:55:59 PM 488 Views
Just like cancer--it's natural, so it can't be bad. Ghavrel - 13/09/2017 12:37:16 AM 455 Views
You say my argument isn't good, so you rebut with... that? TyrReborn - 13/09/2017 02:01:04 AM 465 Views
Are you familiar with the suicide rates of people experiencing dysphoria? Ghavrel - 13/09/2017 02:10:44 AM 411 Views
Sigh TyrReborn - 13/09/2017 04:28:34 AM 526 Views
Actually nossy - 13/09/2017 12:46:03 PM 371 Views
You can't change your sex. Tom - 13/09/2017 02:06:05 PM 783 Views
I'm not talking about DNA. nossy - 13/09/2017 02:55:26 PM 387 Views
I wouldn't care, either, if not for the demand for official recognition. Tom - 13/09/2017 03:41:34 PM 537 Views
What are they asking for that bothers you? *NM* nossy - 13/09/2017 04:07:19 PM 259 Views
He repeatedly said so in his posts. Cannoli - 13/09/2017 04:24:15 PM 524 Views
Yes, thank you for mansplaining. nossy - 13/09/2017 05:23:59 PM 375 Views
Cannoli is right. I was pretty clear about what bothers me. Tom - 13/09/2017 08:49:12 PM 426 Views
I did expect more nossy - 13/09/2017 10:36:36 PM 454 Views
I thought I provided it. Adherence to logic, facts and reality. Tom - 13/09/2017 10:41:39 PM 463 Views
No, you did. nossy - 13/09/2017 11:16:18 PM 435 Views
I agree with this. damookster - 13/09/2017 04:34:19 PM 391 Views
Yeah, they are. LiterateDog - 14/09/2017 03:29:07 AM 434 Views
LOL damookster - 14/09/2017 06:06:28 AM 422 Views
You replace that "M" with an "L", and change the "no" to an "a".... LiterateDog - 14/09/2017 06:17:06 AM 448 Views
... yet. *NM* aerocontrols - 13/09/2017 07:26:56 PM 282 Views
Congratulations. You've begun arguing for transition. Ghavrel - 13/09/2017 03:08:32 PM 395 Views
Don't forget.... Jeordam - 13/09/2017 07:27:41 PM 369 Views
I repeat, you do not fix your problems by maiming yourself. TyrReborn - 13/09/2017 09:56:36 PM 391 Views
So your suggestion is to keep the suicide rate staggeringly high. Excellent solution. Ghavrel - 13/09/2017 11:03:42 PM 450 Views
Nice strawman. TyrReborn - 14/09/2017 02:42:01 AM 369 Views
And in the meantime, while your miracle drugs and therapies are being developed... *NM* Ghavrel - 14/09/2017 03:08:55 AM 304 Views
Don't allow them to maim themselves. It's that simple. I don't get why you don't get it. TyrReborn - 14/09/2017 03:18:20 AM 471 Views
Because you're saying "don't do this thing that makes you less likely to kill yourself." Ghavrel - 14/09/2017 05:46:13 AM 374 Views
TyrReborn - 14/09/2017 05:19:40 PM 400 Views
In fairness to Ghavrel... Legolas - 14/09/2017 11:15:04 PM 415 Views
Oh, thank you! Your hyperbolic sarcasm has opened my eyes! TyrReborn - 15/09/2017 06:28:35 AM 366 Views
I thought your latest replies were slacking off a bit, so I resumed your best arguments from before. Legolas - 15/09/2017 07:22:04 AM 443 Views
You're not even making sense. TyrReborn - 15/09/2017 05:46:04 PM 423 Views
If only stamina were enough to win a debate. Legolas - 15/09/2017 08:00:26 PM 469 Views
Oh! Haha! I don't know how I missed the humor there! TyrReborn - 15/09/2017 08:42:50 PM 338 Views
Yeah, most people feel that way when they're being mocked. *NM* Ghavrel - 15/09/2017 09:00:32 PM 283 Views
K. Get back to me when you want to actually have a discussion, then. *NM* TyrReborn - 16/09/2017 03:43:37 AM 275 Views
You should read up on OCD and hair dryers. Or really on mental illness at all. *NM* Ghavrel - 15/09/2017 09:02:22 PM 265 Views
Oh yeah? Do they cause permanent damage to their bodies? *NM* TyrReborn - 16/09/2017 03:44:38 AM 233 Views
They cause permanent alterations to their bodies through the use of medicine. Ghavrel - 16/09/2017 07:11:57 AM 628 Views
Liposuction isn't an acceptable treatment for anorexia nervosa. AgentApple - 13/09/2017 11:08:07 AM 370 Views
It would be if it had the best prognosis for people with AN, though. Ghavrel - 13/09/2017 03:06:11 PM 416 Views
No it wouldnt. Anorexics very often are underweight to begin with. How does liposuction help? Hieshyn - 14/09/2017 01:53:33 AM 537 Views
...it doesn't. That's why it's not the solution which offers the best prognosis. That was the point. Ghavrel - 14/09/2017 03:11:04 AM 457 Views
I've been thinking about this point.... Jeordam - 18/09/2017 07:00:49 PM 422 Views
You know what might make my anxiety and severe depression easier to manage? Millions of dollars. Hieshyn - 14/09/2017 01:40:09 AM 342 Views
Sure. That's a decent point. I think there needs to be a discussion about children. *NM* Ghavrel - 14/09/2017 03:06:51 AM 257 Views
I don't it is a question of good or bad but if it should be celibrated and treated as normal random thoughts - 13/09/2017 08:56:34 PM 413 Views
This is pretty sad on multiple levels.... Jeordam - 12/09/2017 10:45:17 PM 451 Views
Transgenderism is the Twenty First Century's phrenology *NM* Tom - 13/09/2017 12:25:29 AM 299 Views
So how to protect little Pat from aerocontrols - 13/09/2017 04:32:44 PM 405 Views
You seem either confused on what that means, or leaping to rather unjustified conclusions. Legolas - 13/09/2017 06:29:47 PM 374 Views
I missed that part.... Jeordam - 13/09/2017 07:00:17 PM 345 Views
Yes. If you watch the whole video (15 mins), it's actually pretty nuanced and interesting. *NM* Legolas - 13/09/2017 07:10:07 PM 284 Views
Not confused about the syndrome. Was the kid in the article/news segment named 'Pat'? aerocontrols - 13/09/2017 07:06:08 PM 381 Views
Patrick, yes. Legolas - 13/09/2017 07:08:37 PM 374 Views
Doctor shopping, of course aerocontrols - 13/09/2017 07:24:20 PM 426 Views
I doubt it's that easy. But what makes this different from other conditions in that regard? *NM* Legolas - 13/09/2017 07:34:30 PM 281 Views
Because it's not wrong...? aerocontrols - 15/09/2017 05:53:24 PM 392 Views
I suppose. I meant on the doctors approving treatment side. Legolas - 15/09/2017 08:10:59 PM 433 Views
That is one of the draw back of the US medical system random thoughts - 18/09/2017 05:02:38 PM 371 Views
HAHAHAHA!!!! aerocontrols - 13/09/2017 07:07:08 PM 314 Views
You ain't lyin' about that. LiterateDog - 14/09/2017 04:06:48 AM 428 Views
I find the things they're doing with young people on this issue very troubling. LiterateDog - 14/09/2017 03:58:05 AM 427 Views
I think this is an eminently reasonable viewpoint. Ghavrel - 14/09/2017 05:49:00 AM 458 Views
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