View original postPeople can get rhinoplasty, or chop their dicks off, or hell, if they want to, chop their legs off. The problem from my perspective comes in when they want official recognition and for laws to legitimize their illness. If someone is denying an objectively provable fact, we have no right to force others to accept that. If we have to humor a mentally ill man to keep him from suicide by "playing along" that he is really Ronald Reagan and President of the US, the absurdity of it becomes apparent. I may choose to humor a man like Bradley Manning who is pretending to be a woman named Chelsea, but I should have no legal obligation to do so.
View original postThe entire problem with the so-called "transgender" movement is that it is trying to equate itself with the homosexual movement (a gross misstatement of reality) and that it is a civil rights, rather than a mental health, issue.
View original postHowever, as more time goes on, it becomes clearer and clearer that it IS a mental health issue, not a civil rights issue (except to the extent that it raises questions about how we deal with mental illness generally in the US, something that needs review as we tilted from one extreme - committing people in prison-like institutions - to the other extreme - not holding anyone for more than 72 hours unless they present a clear danger to themselves and others - with little thought as to the consequences).
View original postAs a result, it's important to point out, again and again, that it is a mental health issue, that professionals acting without a political agenda should make decisions, and that we should not make laws treating the issue as a new civil rights matter.
WHAT. THE. SHIT?!
11/09/2017 11:58:15 PM
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As usual, I'm going to breeze past most of the nonsense here.
12/09/2017 02:27:37 AM
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Oh, for sure.
12/09/2017 10:55:59 PM
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Just like cancer--it's natural, so it can't be bad.
13/09/2017 12:37:16 AM
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You say my argument isn't good, so you rebut with... that?
13/09/2017 02:01:04 AM
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Are you familiar with the suicide rates of people experiencing dysphoria?
13/09/2017 02:10:44 AM
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Sigh
13/09/2017 04:28:34 AM
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Actually
13/09/2017 12:46:03 PM
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You can't change your sex.
13/09/2017 02:06:05 PM
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I'm not talking about DNA.
13/09/2017 02:55:26 PM
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I wouldn't care, either, if not for the demand for official recognition.
13/09/2017 03:41:34 PM
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What are they asking for that bothers you? *NM*
13/09/2017 04:07:19 PM
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He repeatedly said so in his posts.
13/09/2017 04:24:15 PM
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Yes, thank you for mansplaining.
13/09/2017 05:23:59 PM
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Cannoli is right. I was pretty clear about what bothers me.
13/09/2017 08:49:12 PM
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I did expect more
13/09/2017 10:36:36 PM
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I agree with this.
13/09/2017 04:34:19 PM
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Yeah, they are.
14/09/2017 03:29:07 AM
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LOL
14/09/2017 06:06:28 AM
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You replace that "M" with an "L", and change the "no" to an "a"....
14/09/2017 06:17:06 AM
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Congratulations. You've begun arguing for transition.
13/09/2017 03:08:32 PM
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I repeat, you do not fix your problems by maiming yourself.
13/09/2017 09:56:36 PM
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So your suggestion is to keep the suicide rate staggeringly high. Excellent solution.
13/09/2017 11:03:42 PM
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Nice strawman.
14/09/2017 02:42:01 AM
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And in the meantime, while your miracle drugs and therapies are being developed... *NM*
14/09/2017 03:08:55 AM
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Don't allow them to maim themselves. It's that simple. I don't get why you don't get it.
14/09/2017 03:18:20 AM
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Because you're saying "don't do this thing that makes you less likely to kill yourself."
14/09/2017 05:46:13 AM
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14/09/2017 05:19:40 PM
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In fairness to Ghavrel...
14/09/2017 11:15:04 PM
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Oh, thank you! Your hyperbolic sarcasm has opened my eyes!
15/09/2017 06:28:35 AM
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I thought your latest replies were slacking off a bit, so I resumed your best arguments from before.
15/09/2017 07:22:04 AM
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You're not even making sense.
15/09/2017 05:46:04 PM
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If only stamina were enough to win a debate.
15/09/2017 08:00:26 PM
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Oh! Haha! I don't know how I missed the humor there!
15/09/2017 08:42:50 PM
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Yeah, most people feel that way when they're being mocked. *NM*
15/09/2017 09:00:32 PM
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K. Get back to me when you want to actually have a discussion, then. *NM*
16/09/2017 03:43:37 AM
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You should read up on OCD and hair dryers. Or really on mental illness at all. *NM*
15/09/2017 09:02:22 PM
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Oh yeah? Do they cause permanent damage to their bodies? *NM*
16/09/2017 03:44:38 AM
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They cause permanent alterations to their bodies through the use of medicine.
16/09/2017 07:11:57 AM
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Liposuction isn't an acceptable treatment for anorexia nervosa.
13/09/2017 11:08:07 AM
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It would be if it had the best prognosis for people with AN, though.
13/09/2017 03:06:11 PM
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No it wouldnt. Anorexics very often are underweight to begin with. How does liposuction help?
14/09/2017 01:53:33 AM
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...it doesn't. That's why it's not the solution which offers the best prognosis. That was the point.
14/09/2017 03:11:04 AM
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You know what might make my anxiety and severe depression easier to manage? Millions of dollars.
14/09/2017 01:40:09 AM
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Sure. That's a decent point. I think there needs to be a discussion about children. *NM*
14/09/2017 03:06:51 AM
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I don't it is a question of good or bad but if it should be celibrated and treated as normal
13/09/2017 08:56:34 PM
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So how to protect little Pat from
13/09/2017 04:32:44 PM
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You seem either confused on what that means, or leaping to rather unjustified conclusions.
13/09/2017 06:29:47 PM
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I missed that part....
13/09/2017 07:00:17 PM
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Yes. If you watch the whole video (15 mins), it's actually pretty nuanced and interesting. *NM*
13/09/2017 07:10:07 PM
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Not confused about the syndrome. Was the kid in the article/news segment named 'Pat'?
13/09/2017 07:06:08 PM
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Patrick, yes.
13/09/2017 07:08:37 PM
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Doctor shopping, of course
13/09/2017 07:24:20 PM
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I doubt it's that easy. But what makes this different from other conditions in that regard? *NM*
13/09/2017 07:34:30 PM
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I find the things they're doing with young people on this issue very troubling.
14/09/2017 03:58:05 AM
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