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So your suggestion is to keep the suicide rate staggeringly high. Excellent solution. Ghavrel Send a noteboard - 13/09/2017 11:03:42 PM

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If you can not see the vast difference between these aspects, then you have no business commenting on any of these issues, and, if you had any respect for people with actual problems, you would kindly excuse yourself from any further discussion.

Seeing how far off you are from actual, realistic points, however, I have no hope this will actually happen.


Doubtlessly this is your response to the consensus of the American Psychological Association, which holds that transition is the preferred treatment for people with gender dysphoria. Your medical background is... what, precisely?

You can rant and rave about "maiming" all you like, but people who transition have markedly lower rates of suicide and report much higher satisfaction in life. That's a better definition of "harm" than "makes TyrReborn unhappy because a man is wearing a wig."

"We feel safe when we read what we recognise, what does not challenge our way of thinking.... a steady acceptance of pre-arranged patterns leads to the inability to question what we are told."
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WHAT. THE. SHIT?! Cannoli - 11/09/2017 11:58:15 PM 1358 Views
As usual, I'm going to breeze past most of the nonsense here. Ghavrel - 12/09/2017 02:27:37 AM 745 Views
Oh, for sure. TyrReborn - 12/09/2017 10:55:59 PM 661 Views
Just like cancer--it's natural, so it can't be bad. Ghavrel - 13/09/2017 12:37:16 AM 609 Views
You say my argument isn't good, so you rebut with... that? TyrReborn - 13/09/2017 02:01:04 AM 636 Views
Are you familiar with the suicide rates of people experiencing dysphoria? Ghavrel - 13/09/2017 02:10:44 AM 567 Views
Sigh TyrReborn - 13/09/2017 04:28:34 AM 694 Views
Actually nossy - 13/09/2017 12:46:03 PM 541 Views
You can't change your sex. Tom - 13/09/2017 02:06:05 PM 939 Views
I'm not talking about DNA. nossy - 13/09/2017 02:55:26 PM 544 Views
I wouldn't care, either, if not for the demand for official recognition. Tom - 13/09/2017 03:41:34 PM 690 Views
What are they asking for that bothers you? *NM* nossy - 13/09/2017 04:07:19 PM 340 Views
He repeatedly said so in his posts. Cannoli - 13/09/2017 04:24:15 PM 687 Views
Yes, thank you for mansplaining. nossy - 13/09/2017 05:23:59 PM 535 Views
Cannoli is right. I was pretty clear about what bothers me. Tom - 13/09/2017 08:49:12 PM 580 Views
I did expect more nossy - 13/09/2017 10:36:36 PM 613 Views
I thought I provided it. Adherence to logic, facts and reality. Tom - 13/09/2017 10:41:39 PM 616 Views
No, you did. nossy - 13/09/2017 11:16:18 PM 596 Views
I agree with this. damookster - 13/09/2017 04:34:19 PM 549 Views
Yeah, they are. LiterateDog - 14/09/2017 03:29:07 AM 575 Views
LOL damookster - 14/09/2017 06:06:28 AM 584 Views
You replace that "M" with an "L", and change the "no" to an "a".... LiterateDog - 14/09/2017 06:17:06 AM 615 Views
... yet. *NM* aerocontrols - 13/09/2017 07:26:56 PM 360 Views
Congratulations. You've begun arguing for transition. Ghavrel - 13/09/2017 03:08:32 PM 562 Views
Don't forget.... Jeordam - 13/09/2017 07:27:41 PM 514 Views
I repeat, you do not fix your problems by maiming yourself. TyrReborn - 13/09/2017 09:56:36 PM 546 Views
So your suggestion is to keep the suicide rate staggeringly high. Excellent solution. Ghavrel - 13/09/2017 11:03:42 PM 607 Views
Nice strawman. TyrReborn - 14/09/2017 02:42:01 AM 525 Views
And in the meantime, while your miracle drugs and therapies are being developed... *NM* Ghavrel - 14/09/2017 03:08:55 AM 383 Views
Don't allow them to maim themselves. It's that simple. I don't get why you don't get it. TyrReborn - 14/09/2017 03:18:20 AM 644 Views
Because you're saying "don't do this thing that makes you less likely to kill yourself." Ghavrel - 14/09/2017 05:46:13 AM 529 Views
TyrReborn - 14/09/2017 05:19:40 PM 552 Views
In fairness to Ghavrel... Legolas - 14/09/2017 11:15:04 PM 582 Views
Oh, thank you! Your hyperbolic sarcasm has opened my eyes! TyrReborn - 15/09/2017 06:28:35 AM 514 Views
I thought your latest replies were slacking off a bit, so I resumed your best arguments from before. Legolas - 15/09/2017 07:22:04 AM 586 Views
You're not even making sense. TyrReborn - 15/09/2017 05:46:04 PM 580 Views
If only stamina were enough to win a debate. Legolas - 15/09/2017 08:00:26 PM 621 Views
Oh! Haha! I don't know how I missed the humor there! TyrReborn - 15/09/2017 08:42:50 PM 510 Views
Yeah, most people feel that way when they're being mocked. *NM* Ghavrel - 15/09/2017 09:00:32 PM 362 Views
K. Get back to me when you want to actually have a discussion, then. *NM* TyrReborn - 16/09/2017 03:43:37 AM 357 Views
You should read up on OCD and hair dryers. Or really on mental illness at all. *NM* Ghavrel - 15/09/2017 09:02:22 PM 338 Views
Oh yeah? Do they cause permanent damage to their bodies? *NM* TyrReborn - 16/09/2017 03:44:38 AM 316 Views
They cause permanent alterations to their bodies through the use of medicine. Ghavrel - 16/09/2017 07:11:57 AM 770 Views
Liposuction isn't an acceptable treatment for anorexia nervosa. AgentApple - 13/09/2017 11:08:07 AM 556 Views
It would be if it had the best prognosis for people with AN, though. Ghavrel - 13/09/2017 03:06:11 PM 580 Views
No it wouldnt. Anorexics very often are underweight to begin with. How does liposuction help? Hieshyn - 14/09/2017 01:53:33 AM 705 Views
...it doesn't. That's why it's not the solution which offers the best prognosis. That was the point. Ghavrel - 14/09/2017 03:11:04 AM 608 Views
I've been thinking about this point.... Jeordam - 18/09/2017 07:00:49 PM 670 Views
You know what might make my anxiety and severe depression easier to manage? Millions of dollars. Hieshyn - 14/09/2017 01:40:09 AM 495 Views
Sure. That's a decent point. I think there needs to be a discussion about children. *NM* Ghavrel - 14/09/2017 03:06:51 AM 328 Views
I don't it is a question of good or bad but if it should be celibrated and treated as normal random thoughts - 13/09/2017 08:56:34 PM 573 Views
This is pretty sad on multiple levels.... Jeordam - 12/09/2017 10:45:17 PM 612 Views
Transgenderism is the Twenty First Century's phrenology *NM* Tom - 13/09/2017 12:25:29 AM 380 Views
So how to protect little Pat from aerocontrols - 13/09/2017 04:32:44 PM 563 Views
You seem either confused on what that means, or leaping to rather unjustified conclusions. Legolas - 13/09/2017 06:29:47 PM 525 Views
I missed that part.... Jeordam - 13/09/2017 07:00:17 PM 522 Views
Yes. If you watch the whole video (15 mins), it's actually pretty nuanced and interesting. *NM* Legolas - 13/09/2017 07:10:07 PM 361 Views
Not confused about the syndrome. Was the kid in the article/news segment named 'Pat'? aerocontrols - 13/09/2017 07:06:08 PM 525 Views
Patrick, yes. Legolas - 13/09/2017 07:08:37 PM 518 Views
Doctor shopping, of course aerocontrols - 13/09/2017 07:24:20 PM 587 Views
I doubt it's that easy. But what makes this different from other conditions in that regard? *NM* Legolas - 13/09/2017 07:34:30 PM 355 Views
Because it's not wrong...? aerocontrols - 15/09/2017 05:53:24 PM 548 Views
I suppose. I meant on the doctors approving treatment side. Legolas - 15/09/2017 08:10:59 PM 601 Views
That is one of the draw back of the US medical system random thoughts - 18/09/2017 05:02:38 PM 539 Views
HAHAHAHA!!!! aerocontrols - 13/09/2017 07:07:08 PM 466 Views
You ain't lyin' about that. LiterateDog - 14/09/2017 04:06:48 AM 601 Views
I find the things they're doing with young people on this issue very troubling. LiterateDog - 14/09/2017 03:58:05 AM 598 Views
I think this is an eminently reasonable viewpoint. Ghavrel - 14/09/2017 05:49:00 AM 647 Views
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