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Yeah. And not just Trump. Legolas Send a noteboard - 26/09/2017 11:59:05 PM

The conservative media or conservative universities aren't necessarily any more open to dissenting viewpoints than the liberal ones - the difference is merely that the liberal and centre-right ones have more power and influence. Nationally at least, I would imagine on the local level that's often not the case.


View original postYou mean like when the President enforces PC orthodoxy by suggesting that national anthem kneelers be fired by their football teams?

Yup. Seems to me that people who make a point of being anti-PC should maybe remember more that there are also aspects of political correctness which they would not actually like to see challenged.
View original postI think he's on the winning side of this issue, but he's lost credibility with me as any kind of supporter of the principle of free speech.

Which issue specifically - the standing up for the anthem?
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You said something similar a while back. And really, I just don't get it. Legolas - 21/09/2017 07:52:31 PM 787 Views
Oh, and just to add... Legolas - 21/09/2017 07:55:35 PM 646 Views
such as? Jeordam - 21/09/2017 08:16:48 PM 694 Views
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People misuse words all the time (cf. ironic). That's their problem. Tom - 25/09/2017 07:25:55 PM 628 Views
I'm making the argument... Legolas - 26/09/2017 07:12:56 PM 715 Views
Socialists are taking it back aerocontrols - 26/09/2017 08:03:39 PM 643 Views
...democratic... fascism? *NM* Ghavrel - 26/09/2017 08:22:36 PM 338 Views
Sure aerocontrols - 26/09/2017 08:32:17 PM 616 Views
It's an interesting idea. Ghavrel - 27/09/2017 02:19:19 AM 673 Views
Sounds like Singapore to me. *NM* aerocontrols - 27/09/2017 02:33:06 AM 318 Views
See, I wouldn't call Singapore democratic. Ghavrel - 27/09/2017 05:03:14 AM 552 Views
Did you see their hilarious presidential 'election' recently? *NM* Legolas - 27/09/2017 07:55:15 AM 369 Views
*shrug* aerocontrols - 27/09/2017 01:05:47 PM 577 Views
I think that's a weakness of your spectrum argument, though. Ghavrel - 27/09/2017 11:06:16 PM 517 Views
the non military is the further stretch random thoughts - 27/09/2017 02:16:03 PM 602 Views
lol aerocontrols - 27/09/2017 02:37:00 PM 591 Views
Hmm. Legolas - 27/09/2017 06:52:46 PM 610 Views
Almost missed this reply, hiding down here. aerocontrols - 27/09/2017 09:40:41 PM 595 Views
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Which you then did your best to prove? Thank you for that, by the way. Legolas - 27/09/2017 09:13:28 PM 662 Views
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As if there wasn't enough getting and not getting in this thread already. Pick one! Legolas - 27/09/2017 12:13:13 AM 676 Views
I made the mistake of bothering to try reading a New York Times article Tom - 29/09/2017 12:38:07 AM 764 Views
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It is? Like what? Legolas - 25/09/2017 06:37:01 PM 588 Views
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That's a good point. Legolas - 26/09/2017 06:44:13 PM 558 Views
I get it.... Jeordam - 26/09/2017 09:00:35 PM 539 Views
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Re: It is? Like what? ßelals Girl - 26/09/2017 02:08:17 PM 651 Views
Trump lost credibility to me on the 'anti-PC' / 'pro free speech' issue aerocontrols - 26/09/2017 07:54:06 PM 551 Views
Yes, the "snowflake" accusation is rather hard to take seriously from people upset about the flag. *NM* Ghavrel - 26/09/2017 08:24:29 PM 278 Views
Let's hold the phone here for a moment.... Jeordam - 26/09/2017 09:07:07 PM 557 Views
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Yeah. And not just Trump. Legolas - 26/09/2017 11:59:05 PM 560 Views
Re: Yeah. And not just Trump. aerocontrols - 27/09/2017 02:27:40 AM 566 Views
keep it in one thread n00b damookster - 27/09/2017 02:52:55 AM 621 Views
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and it has been very affective random thoughts - 28/09/2017 12:55:06 PM 592 Views
Re: You said something similar a while back. And really, I just don't get it. Cannoli - 22/09/2017 11:59:19 PM 626 Views
He was in town today, stumping for Luther Strange aerocontrols - 23/09/2017 03:58:49 AM 633 Views
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