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Yeah. And not just Trump. Legolas Send a noteboard - 26/09/2017 11:59:05 PM

The conservative media or conservative universities aren't necessarily any more open to dissenting viewpoints than the liberal ones - the difference is merely that the liberal and centre-right ones have more power and influence. Nationally at least, I would imagine on the local level that's often not the case.


View original postYou mean like when the President enforces PC orthodoxy by suggesting that national anthem kneelers be fired by their football teams?

Yup. Seems to me that people who make a point of being anti-PC should maybe remember more that there are also aspects of political correctness which they would not actually like to see challenged.
View original postI think he's on the winning side of this issue, but he's lost credibility with me as any kind of supporter of the principle of free speech.

Which issue specifically - the standing up for the anthem?
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You said something similar a while back. And really, I just don't get it. Legolas - 21/09/2017 07:52:31 PM 721 Views
Oh, and just to add... Legolas - 21/09/2017 07:55:35 PM 623 Views
such as? Jeordam - 21/09/2017 08:16:48 PM 670 Views
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People misuse words all the time (cf. ironic). That's their problem. Tom - 25/09/2017 07:25:55 PM 603 Views
I'm making the argument... Legolas - 26/09/2017 07:12:56 PM 674 Views
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...democratic... fascism? *NM* Ghavrel - 26/09/2017 08:22:36 PM 326 Views
Sure aerocontrols - 26/09/2017 08:32:17 PM 593 Views
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Sounds like Singapore to me. *NM* aerocontrols - 27/09/2017 02:33:06 AM 305 Views
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Did you see their hilarious presidential 'election' recently? *NM* Legolas - 27/09/2017 07:55:15 AM 354 Views
*shrug* aerocontrols - 27/09/2017 01:05:47 PM 553 Views
I think that's a weakness of your spectrum argument, though. Ghavrel - 27/09/2017 11:06:16 PM 491 Views
the non military is the further stretch random thoughts - 27/09/2017 02:16:03 PM 579 Views
lol aerocontrols - 27/09/2017 02:37:00 PM 568 Views
Hmm. Legolas - 27/09/2017 06:52:46 PM 584 Views
Almost missed this reply, hiding down here. aerocontrols - 27/09/2017 09:40:41 PM 569 Views
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You're again making an idiotic argument Tom - 27/09/2017 07:25:36 PM 607 Views
Which you then did your best to prove? Thank you for that, by the way. Legolas - 27/09/2017 09:13:28 PM 638 Views
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It is? Like what? Legolas - 25/09/2017 06:37:01 PM 564 Views
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I get it.... Jeordam - 26/09/2017 09:00:35 PM 515 Views
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Trump lost credibility to me on the 'anti-PC' / 'pro free speech' issue aerocontrols - 26/09/2017 07:54:06 PM 525 Views
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Let's hold the phone here for a moment.... Jeordam - 26/09/2017 09:07:07 PM 528 Views
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Yeah. And not just Trump. Legolas - 26/09/2017 11:59:05 PM 533 Views
Re: Yeah. And not just Trump. aerocontrols - 27/09/2017 02:27:40 AM 541 Views
keep it in one thread n00b damookster - 27/09/2017 02:52:55 AM 580 Views
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Re: You said something similar a while back. And really, I just don't get it. Cannoli - 22/09/2017 11:59:19 PM 598 Views
He was in town today, stumping for Luther Strange aerocontrols - 23/09/2017 03:58:49 AM 607 Views
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