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I appreciate your amendment. Ghavrel Send a noteboard - 17/10/2017 03:14:19 AM

I think the linked article does a good job of explaining the rise of "victimhood culture." I also think a lot of conservative types use the excesses of young kids in order to scream about "PC culture gone wild," when really what they're upset about is being told it's no longer acceptable to throw around racial and homophobic slurs.

"We feel safe when we read what we recognise, what does not challenge our way of thinking.... a steady acceptance of pre-arranged patterns leads to the inability to question what we are told."
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The Rise of Victimhood Culture
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Why Are [SOME] Millennials Wary of Freedom? The Shrike - 16/10/2017 07:16:47 PM 2388 Views
Good article. Tom - 16/10/2017 08:05:48 PM 914 Views
Indeed it is a pathology of fear. LiterateDog - 17/10/2017 01:59:24 AM 839 Views
This makes me especially sad. The Shrike - 17/10/2017 12:47:51 PM 770 Views
never thought of it that way but excellent points *NM* random thoughts - 17/10/2017 03:31:51 AM 569 Views
Definitely a possibility. The Shrike - 17/10/2017 12:46:42 PM 782 Views
I totally agree on there being fewer causes for fear. Legolas - 17/10/2017 06:39:38 PM 855 Views
Wait...you said *Rubio* was trying to push a positive, hopeful message? RUBIO? Tom - 17/10/2017 08:22:40 PM 794 Views
Maybe I shouldn't have omitted the disclaimer about his foreign policy. Legolas - 17/10/2017 08:33:37 PM 787 Views
Ok, fair enough Tom - 17/10/2017 09:15:14 PM 737 Views
Yes. I think the days of American armed intervention in Latin-America are well behind us. Legolas - 17/10/2017 11:54:41 PM 761 Views
Regarding 'Make America Great Again'. Trump wasn't the first. He won't be the last. The Shrike - 17/10/2017 08:44:09 PM 918 Views
Do we still have WSE points? I was quite the mogul in the waning days of WoTmania. *NM* Hieshyn - 16/10/2017 11:36:00 PM 517 Views
/me steals your WSE points. *NM* The Shrike - 17/10/2017 12:48:08 PM 505 Views
Interesting damookster - 16/10/2017 11:46:32 PM 833 Views
Old dude, you make a good point, too. LiterateDog - 17/10/2017 02:01:29 AM 784 Views
Authority for Authority sake is just as Mores-less as No Respect for Authority Roland00 - 17/10/2017 06:07:15 AM 832 Views
All generations experienced different cultures with different views *NM* random thoughts - 17/10/2017 11:41:40 AM 475 Views
Agreed but there is a difference in severity between 1997 to 2017 vs 997 to 1017 *NM* Roland00 - 18/10/2017 05:52:14 AM 478 Views
but less than 1900 vs 1920 random thoughts - 18/10/2017 02:27:59 PM 747 Views
I still have hope The Shrike - 17/10/2017 12:50:35 PM 840 Views
I shall endeavor to combine Tom'n'Mookie's theories into one grand theory of... LiterateDog - 17/10/2017 02:15:48 AM 810 Views
So we are back in the Age of Romanticism. Western Civilization has been there before. The Shrike - 17/10/2017 12:58:04 PM 805 Views
This article agrees with your assessment The Shrike - 17/10/2017 02:30:03 PM 907 Views
I appreciate your amendment. Ghavrel - 17/10/2017 03:14:19 AM 1084 Views
no it is just hard to see the problem from the inside random thoughts - 17/10/2017 11:51:08 AM 800 Views
Re: no it is just hard to see the problem from the inside - uh, yes. nossy - 17/10/2017 01:44:26 PM 883 Views
Most of us are very good at that random thoughts - 17/10/2017 08:24:50 PM 814 Views
Thanks. The Shrike - 17/10/2017 01:00:42 PM 729 Views
I disagree with relation to trigger warnings. Ghavrel - 17/10/2017 11:17:45 PM 792 Views
A fair point. - Still, how far will you extend them? The Shrike - 18/10/2017 12:47:50 AM 772 Views
I don't know, but I'm not entirely sure it's a big deal either way. Ghavrel - 18/10/2017 02:56:09 AM 725 Views
Nods Roland00 - 18/10/2017 03:17:17 AM 748 Views
And I would posit that no work of literature should have any trigger warnings. The Shrike - 18/10/2017 01:02:44 PM 922 Views
Re: And I would posit that no work of literature should have any trigger warnings. Ghavrel - 18/10/2017 08:48:01 PM 805 Views
How would you propose such warnings be worded? damookster - 18/10/2017 09:21:02 PM 777 Views
Do you know a lot of people who suffer from PTSD? Ghavrel - 19/10/2017 05:26:06 AM 955 Views
Stop. Now. Tom - 19/10/2017 06:21:13 AM 726 Views
Avoidance isn't the purpose of those warnings, though. Ghavrel - 19/10/2017 06:32:16 AM 765 Views
You would ruin the literature though. And discussions around the literature. The Shrike - 19/10/2017 01:21:20 PM 793 Views
That's reasonable. Ghavrel - 19/10/2017 11:58:56 PM 761 Views
Third party website? I fully support that. The Shrike - 20/10/2017 12:41:33 PM 892 Views
Peace for our time! I agree with everything you wrote here. I'm always a sucker for more studies. *NM* Ghavrel - 21/10/2017 07:03:31 AM 440 Views
Well argument settled becuase they already exist random thoughts - 23/10/2017 01:46:55 PM 699 Views
Yeah but they don't necessarily exist for works of literature usually read at the university level The Shrike - 24/10/2017 12:28:35 PM 731 Views
That is true but it could fixed if there was more demand random thoughts - 24/10/2017 10:00:21 PM 736 Views
I feel like I now need a trigger warning for trigger warnings. *NM* The Shrike - 25/10/2017 12:48:47 PM 520 Views
Fuck you Tom Roland00 - 19/10/2017 07:06:47 AM 897 Views
Oh come on... Belals Girl - 19/10/2017 05:12:46 PM 783 Views
HAHAHA! This from the person who can't even write a coherent post *NM* Tom - 20/10/2017 07:10:45 PM 465 Views
Oh please damookster - 19/10/2017 02:10:11 PM 852 Views
Re: Oh please Ghavrel - 20/10/2017 12:01:02 AM 786 Views
What is your basis for arguing that "trigger warnings" are beneficial? Tom - 20/10/2017 07:19:42 PM 760 Views
Ha! Joke's on you! We don't do interrogatories in the criminal system. Ghavrel - 21/10/2017 07:01:54 AM 805 Views
If you are not proposing altering any literature... Tom - 22/10/2017 04:28:53 PM 779 Views
I'm just gonna put this out there... Jeordam - 20/10/2017 07:24:55 PM 763 Views
Eh, I don't think that's accurate. Ghavrel - 21/10/2017 07:04:58 AM 702 Views
An unnecessary tool.... Jeordam - 23/10/2017 05:14:06 PM 715 Views
Why does this reasoning apply to PTSD but not to other diseases? PTSD is a physical issue. Ghavrel - 24/10/2017 12:33:31 AM 716 Views
I would challenge that statment.... Jeordam - 24/10/2017 05:14:17 PM 905 Views
Do you actually believe those examples are valid? *NM* random thoughts - 23/10/2017 07:32:59 PM 435 Views
Forget it, mook. He's just being a silly, stupid kid. He should know better. *NM* Tom - 19/10/2017 06:17:28 AM 551 Views
Agreed. Tom - 19/10/2017 06:16:33 AM 879 Views
Interesting article. Legolas - 17/10/2017 07:41:34 PM 794 Views
Why are some HUMANS wary of freedom? Roland00 - 17/10/2017 05:31:04 AM 751 Views
Maybe the victimhood thing is another kind of honor Cannoli - 17/10/2017 01:02:43 PM 807 Views
Because it's easier to absolve oneself of power sometimes. For those people anyway. The Shrike - 17/10/2017 01:10:41 PM 754 Views
I apologize before hand Roland00 - 18/10/2017 01:11:59 AM 754 Views
Only made it through page 2. Were there separate graphs for just N. American/West European nations? The Shrike - 18/10/2017 01:04:05 PM 730 Views
I haven't read all the comments, so I apologize if I'm doubling up nossy - 17/10/2017 01:06:00 PM 970 Views
Oh those echo chambers. The Shrike - 17/10/2017 01:16:40 PM 851 Views
I hate blaming things nossy - 17/10/2017 02:04:44 PM 936 Views
I'm not even sure "echo chamber" is the right phrase Tom - 17/10/2017 02:17:07 PM 876 Views
I'm not sure that is the most common choice. nossy - 17/10/2017 05:21:52 PM 948 Views
I get irritated too. But I still keep them in my news feed as well. The Shrike - 17/10/2017 08:49:45 PM 749 Views
Je ne regrette rien. My memes are both spicy and piquant. *NM* Ghavrel - 17/10/2017 11:20:55 PM 429 Views
I'm of Russian extraction. I like my food bland. Garlic, dill, salt, pepper. It's enough for me. The Shrike - 18/10/2017 12:52:27 AM 737 Views
You know, I'd not thought about that. Ghavrel - 18/10/2017 03:07:05 AM 793 Views
I find him intriguing as a Captain. The Shrike - 18/10/2017 01:09:07 PM 748 Views
So now we are at episode 6 The Shrike - 24/10/2017 12:31:06 PM 664 Views
6 was by far the best episode of the series. *NM* Ghavrel - 24/10/2017 08:07:55 PM 452 Views
Yes The Shrike - 25/10/2017 12:50:15 PM 743 Views
But are your Memes brothy and fully of Umami? Roland00 - 18/10/2017 01:17:07 AM 693 Views
Umami is an irritating word *NM* damookster - 18/10/2017 04:59:21 PM 402 Views
Yes, ohdaddy is a much better word. *NM* LiterateDog - 18/10/2017 05:15:48 PM 509 Views
*NM* damookster - 18/10/2017 05:39:12 PM 441 Views
*NM* The Shrike - 18/10/2017 06:27:31 PM 428 Views
Snorts / Laughs so hard that I almost lost the drink I was enjoying. *NM* Roland00 - 19/10/2017 06:00:47 AM 468 Views
I do think some of this is specifically American and to a lesser extent the rest of the Anglosphere. Legolas - 17/10/2017 06:26:33 PM 807 Views
Agreed with all your points. The Shrike - 17/10/2017 08:53:23 PM 814 Views
The Netherlands, I'm not so sure about. Legolas - 17/10/2017 11:43:54 PM 781 Views
My apologies. I see Dutch and don't think of Belgium. The Shrike - 18/10/2017 12:56:26 AM 780 Views
That's alright. This is a confusing country in many ways. Legolas - 18/10/2017 08:58:15 PM 757 Views
America and to a lesser extent the rest of the Anglosphere puts a higher valuer on liberty *NM* random thoughts - 19/10/2017 01:53:50 PM 470 Views
Yes, in some ways it does. *NM* Legolas - 19/10/2017 05:38:41 PM 472 Views
Simple, true fredom is includes the freedom to fail HyogaRott - 20/10/2017 05:43:13 PM 818 Views
Re: Simple, true fredom is/includes the freedom to fail *NM* HyogaRott - 20/10/2017 05:45:51 PM 502 Views
Yes it is the freedom to fail Roland00 - 20/10/2017 06:36:02 PM 824 Views
This entire thread was so awesome.... Jeordam - 20/10/2017 07:12:46 PM 837 Views
Jeo I think you in particular will appreciate this damookster - 20/10/2017 09:07:39 PM 770 Views
Interesting.....wisdom from on high.... Jeordam - 20/10/2017 09:58:36 PM 690 Views
damn it *NM* damookster - 20/10/2017 09:07:39 PM 405 Views
I think a lot of us are thinking about trigger warnings differently. Ghavrel - 21/10/2017 07:07:01 AM 765 Views
Maybe, maybe not... Jeordam - 23/10/2017 05:18:16 PM 676 Views
Glad you enjoyed it and that it provoked thought. The Shrike - 23/10/2017 02:32:57 PM 750 Views
I see this as... Jeordam - 23/10/2017 05:23:54 PM 732 Views
I kind of break them down into two types Vodalus - 22/10/2017 03:25:04 AM 814 Views
I wonder how much the fall of communism has to do with this? random thoughts - 24/10/2017 10:20:16 PM 777 Views
Definitely more than a bit. The Shrike - 25/10/2017 12:51:55 PM 705 Views
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