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I'm not even sure "echo chamber" is the right phrase Tom Send a noteboard - 17/10/2017 02:17:07 PM

I have tried to keep my friends on Facebook who have radically different belief systems from mine, but then my news feed irritates the Hell out of me because rather than post their opinions about something and debate them in an intelligent fashion, they just get lazy, post other people's inflammatory memes, polemics, etc., and rather than hearing a coherent ideology, I get a screed of bullshit. I found myself doing it too, so I've largely stopped posting political things unless I am ready to have a good debate based on that meme that I think would be useful (cf. my recent Columbus Day post on Facebook).

Anyway, I think the fear is the biggest source, combined with the infantilization (juvenalization, take your pick) that comes along with it. However, I would also add laziness, both physical and intellectual, to the mix. If the people with whom I disagreed actually posted thoughtful things, I'd interact more with them.

For the record, I have 2-3 friends from high school whom I haven't stopped following on Facebook who have radically different beliefs from mine. I keep following them because they actually do interact, and try to understand.

I might just make a FB post about this too.

Political correctness is the pettiest form of casuistry.

ἡ δὲ κἀκ τριῶν τρυπημάτων ἐργαζομένη ἐνεκάλει τῇ φύσει, δυσφορουμένη, ὅτι δὴ μὴ καὶ τοὺς τιτθοὺς αὐτῇ εὐρύτερον ἢ νῦν εἰσι τρυπώη, ὅπως καὶ ἄλλην ἐνταῦθα μίξιν ἐπιτεχνᾶσθαι δυνατὴ εἴη. – Procopius

Ummaka qinnassa nīk!

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Why Are [SOME] Millennials Wary of Freedom? - 16/10/2017 07:16:47 PM 2447 Views
Good article. - 16/10/2017 08:05:48 PM 963 Views
Indeed it is a pathology of fear. - 17/10/2017 01:59:24 AM 883 Views
This makes me especially sad. - 17/10/2017 12:47:51 PM 826 Views
never thought of it that way but excellent points *NM* - 17/10/2017 03:31:51 AM 589 Views
Definitely a possibility. - 17/10/2017 12:46:42 PM 822 Views
Do we still have WSE points? I was quite the mogul in the waning days of WoTmania. *NM* - 16/10/2017 11:36:00 PM 535 Views
/me steals your WSE points. *NM* - 17/10/2017 12:48:08 PM 522 Views
Interesting - 16/10/2017 11:46:32 PM 869 Views
Old dude, you make a good point, too. - 17/10/2017 02:01:29 AM 839 Views
Authority for Authority sake is just as Mores-less as No Respect for Authority - 17/10/2017 06:07:15 AM 889 Views
All generations experienced different cultures with different views *NM* - 17/10/2017 11:41:40 AM 494 Views
Agreed but there is a difference in severity between 1997 to 2017 vs 997 to 1017 *NM* - 18/10/2017 05:52:14 AM 491 Views
but less than 1900 vs 1920 - 18/10/2017 02:27:59 PM 789 Views
I still have hope - 17/10/2017 12:50:35 PM 892 Views
I shall endeavor to combine Tom'n'Mookie's theories into one grand theory of... - 17/10/2017 02:15:48 AM 855 Views
This article agrees with your assessment - 17/10/2017 02:30:03 PM 951 Views
I appreciate your amendment. - 17/10/2017 03:14:19 AM 1131 Views
no it is just hard to see the problem from the inside - 17/10/2017 11:51:08 AM 850 Views
Re: no it is just hard to see the problem from the inside - uh, yes. - 17/10/2017 01:44:26 PM 932 Views
Most of us are very good at that - 17/10/2017 08:24:50 PM 863 Views
Thanks. - 17/10/2017 01:00:42 PM 778 Views
I disagree with relation to trigger warnings. - 17/10/2017 11:17:45 PM 836 Views
A fair point. - Still, how far will you extend them? - 18/10/2017 12:47:50 AM 808 Views
I don't know, but I'm not entirely sure it's a big deal either way. - 18/10/2017 02:56:09 AM 762 Views
Nods - 18/10/2017 03:17:17 AM 783 Views
And I would posit that no work of literature should have any trigger warnings. - 18/10/2017 01:02:44 PM 970 Views
Re: And I would posit that no work of literature should have any trigger warnings. - 18/10/2017 08:48:01 PM 842 Views
How would you propose such warnings be worded? - 18/10/2017 09:21:02 PM 819 Views
Do you know a lot of people who suffer from PTSD? - 19/10/2017 05:26:06 AM 1006 Views
Stop. Now. - 19/10/2017 06:21:13 AM 770 Views
Avoidance isn't the purpose of those warnings, though. - 19/10/2017 06:32:16 AM 806 Views
You would ruin the literature though. And discussions around the literature. - 19/10/2017 01:21:20 PM 842 Views
That's reasonable. - 19/10/2017 11:58:56 PM 812 Views
Well argument settled becuase they already exist - 23/10/2017 01:46:55 PM 745 Views
Fuck you Tom - 19/10/2017 07:06:47 AM 937 Views
Oh come on... - 19/10/2017 05:12:46 PM 827 Views
Oh please - 19/10/2017 02:10:11 PM 899 Views
Re: Oh please - 20/10/2017 12:01:02 AM 831 Views
I'm just gonna put this out there... - 20/10/2017 07:24:55 PM 811 Views
Eh, I don't think that's accurate. - 21/10/2017 07:04:58 AM 744 Views
An unnecessary tool.... - 23/10/2017 05:14:06 PM 757 Views
Why does this reasoning apply to PTSD but not to other diseases? PTSD is a physical issue. - 24/10/2017 12:33:31 AM 761 Views
I would challenge that statment.... - 24/10/2017 05:14:17 PM 952 Views
Do you actually believe those examples are valid? *NM* - 23/10/2017 07:32:59 PM 458 Views
Agreed. - 19/10/2017 06:16:33 AM 913 Views
Interesting article. - 17/10/2017 07:41:34 PM 826 Views
Why are some HUMANS wary of freedom? - 17/10/2017 05:31:04 AM 802 Views
Maybe the victimhood thing is another kind of honor - 17/10/2017 01:02:43 PM 858 Views
Because it's easier to absolve oneself of power sometimes. For those people anyway. - 17/10/2017 01:10:41 PM 805 Views
I apologize before hand - 18/10/2017 01:11:59 AM 794 Views
I haven't read all the comments, so I apologize if I'm doubling up - 17/10/2017 01:06:00 PM 1017 Views
Oh those echo chambers. - 17/10/2017 01:16:40 PM 905 Views
I hate blaming things - 17/10/2017 02:04:44 PM 980 Views
I'm not even sure "echo chamber" is the right phrase - 17/10/2017 02:17:07 PM 922 Views
I'm not sure that is the most common choice. - 17/10/2017 05:21:52 PM 1005 Views
I get irritated too. But I still keep them in my news feed as well. - 17/10/2017 08:49:45 PM 792 Views
Je ne regrette rien. My memes are both spicy and piquant. *NM* - 17/10/2017 11:20:55 PM 447 Views
I'm of Russian extraction. I like my food bland. Garlic, dill, salt, pepper. It's enough for me. - 18/10/2017 12:52:27 AM 777 Views
You know, I'd not thought about that. - 18/10/2017 03:07:05 AM 824 Views
I find him intriguing as a Captain. - 18/10/2017 01:09:07 PM 804 Views
So now we are at episode 6 - 24/10/2017 12:31:06 PM 709 Views
6 was by far the best episode of the series. *NM* - 24/10/2017 08:07:55 PM 471 Views
Yes - 25/10/2017 12:50:15 PM 771 Views
But are your Memes brothy and fully of Umami? - 18/10/2017 01:17:07 AM 729 Views
Umami is an irritating word *NM* - 18/10/2017 04:59:21 PM 419 Views
Yes, ohdaddy is a much better word. *NM* - 18/10/2017 05:15:48 PM 527 Views
*NM* - 18/10/2017 05:39:12 PM 458 Views
*NM* - 18/10/2017 06:27:31 PM 445 Views
I do think some of this is specifically American and to a lesser extent the rest of the Anglosphere. - 17/10/2017 06:26:33 PM 851 Views
Agreed with all your points. - 17/10/2017 08:53:23 PM 851 Views
The Netherlands, I'm not so sure about. - 17/10/2017 11:43:54 PM 820 Views
My apologies. I see Dutch and don't think of Belgium. - 18/10/2017 12:56:26 AM 828 Views
That's alright. This is a confusing country in many ways. - 18/10/2017 08:58:15 PM 801 Views
America and to a lesser extent the rest of the Anglosphere puts a higher valuer on liberty *NM* - 19/10/2017 01:53:50 PM 490 Views
Yes, in some ways it does. *NM* - 19/10/2017 05:38:41 PM 486 Views
Simple, true fredom is includes the freedom to fail - 20/10/2017 05:43:13 PM 857 Views
Re: Simple, true fredom is/includes the freedom to fail *NM* - 20/10/2017 05:45:51 PM 526 Views
Yes it is the freedom to fail - 20/10/2017 06:36:02 PM 873 Views
This entire thread was so awesome.... - 20/10/2017 07:12:46 PM 881 Views
Jeo I think you in particular will appreciate this - 20/10/2017 09:07:39 PM 817 Views
Interesting.....wisdom from on high.... - 20/10/2017 09:58:36 PM 720 Views
damn it *NM* - 20/10/2017 09:07:39 PM 425 Views
I think a lot of us are thinking about trigger warnings differently. - 21/10/2017 07:07:01 AM 812 Views
Maybe, maybe not... - 23/10/2017 05:18:16 PM 723 Views
Glad you enjoyed it and that it provoked thought. - 23/10/2017 02:32:57 PM 797 Views
I see this as... - 23/10/2017 05:23:54 PM 778 Views
I kind of break them down into two types - 22/10/2017 03:25:04 AM 856 Views
I wonder how much the fall of communism has to do with this? - 24/10/2017 10:20:16 PM 817 Views
Definitely more than a bit. - 25/10/2017 12:51:55 PM 747 Views

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