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A fair point. - Still, how far will you extend them? The Shrike Send a noteboard - 18/10/2017 12:47:50 AM

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A good friend of mine is a pretty centrist ex-army guy. Definitely not your bleeding heart leftist. I remember one time we had a class that abruptly got pretty detailed on sexual assault--after the class, he went to the bathroom and vomited for about fifteen minutes. Turns out he'd been raped as a kid, and while he was able to remain composed during the class, the discussion was stressful enough to cause that reaction. He's fine as long as he knows that sort of discussion is coming; he prepares himself mentally for it. But it causes a problem when it comes up abruptly.

PTSD is a real and pretty common thing. Saying "we're going to discuss issues relating to sexual assault" is a courtesy that costs virtually nothing and can save people a lot of pain. Now, of course it can go overboard--people talking about trigger warnings for ageist microaggressions and the like is silly, and absurdities like not teaching about rape in a criminal law class is really unconscionable. But that shouldn't invalidate the entire concept.


Will you extend it to works of literature as well? Where do these warnings begin and where do they end? Who gets to decide?

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A fair point. - Still, how far will you extend them? - 18/10/2017 12:47:50 AM 858 Views
I don't know, but I'm not entirely sure it's a big deal either way. - 18/10/2017 02:56:09 AM 829 Views
Nods - 18/10/2017 03:17:17 AM 844 Views
And I would posit that no work of literature should have any trigger warnings. - 18/10/2017 01:02:44 PM 1016 Views
Re: And I would posit that no work of literature should have any trigger warnings. - 18/10/2017 08:48:01 PM 906 Views
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Je ne regrette rien. My memes are both spicy and piquant. *NM* - 17/10/2017 11:20:55 PM 475 Views
I'm of Russian extraction. I like my food bland. Garlic, dill, salt, pepper. It's enough for me. - 18/10/2017 12:52:27 AM 828 Views
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*NM* - 18/10/2017 05:39:12 PM 486 Views
*NM* - 18/10/2017 06:27:31 PM 483 Views
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This entire thread was so awesome.... - 20/10/2017 07:12:46 PM 928 Views
Jeo I think you in particular will appreciate this - 20/10/2017 09:07:39 PM 872 Views
Interesting.....wisdom from on high.... - 20/10/2017 09:58:36 PM 789 Views
damn it *NM* - 20/10/2017 09:07:39 PM 452 Views
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