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And I would posit that no work of literature should have any trigger warnings. The Shrike Send a noteboard - 18/10/2017 01:02:44 PM

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I think the reasonable worst-case scenario here is that professors include a mention in their syllabus that certain works contain issues like sexual trauma, abuse, eating disorders, or things of that nature. I'm sure there are others. And maybe a brief mention during the course of the semester when it's appropriate. That's a difference of a paragraph and about ten seconds of talking. Not a huge deal.

I think the incredibly unlikely (but I suppose plausible) worst-case scenario is that all works of literature have a page labelled TRIGGER WARNING in between all the various pages of copyright that nobody reads. There's probably an environmental impact there, but again--I don't think it's super significant.

More seriously, yes, I'm sure people will want to take a mile once you've given an inch, but I've seen enough PTSD flashbacks to be willing to give the inch regardless, even if it means you have to fight the people who want a trigger warning for a character stubbing their toe.


Somehow students survived for decades/centuries reading works like
Metamorphoses, To Kill A Mockingbird, Crime & Punishment, Huckleberry Finn, Things Fall Apart, The Bible. Yes, the Bible. Will the Bible also get a Trigger Warning?

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Why Are [SOME] Millennials Wary of Freedom? The Shrike - 16/10/2017 07:16:47 PM 2390 Views
Good article. Tom - 16/10/2017 08:05:48 PM 916 Views
Indeed it is a pathology of fear. LiterateDog - 17/10/2017 01:59:24 AM 841 Views
This makes me especially sad. The Shrike - 17/10/2017 12:47:51 PM 772 Views
never thought of it that way but excellent points *NM* random thoughts - 17/10/2017 03:31:51 AM 570 Views
Definitely a possibility. The Shrike - 17/10/2017 12:46:42 PM 783 Views
I totally agree on there being fewer causes for fear. Legolas - 17/10/2017 06:39:38 PM 856 Views
Wait...you said *Rubio* was trying to push a positive, hopeful message? RUBIO? Tom - 17/10/2017 08:22:40 PM 796 Views
Maybe I shouldn't have omitted the disclaimer about his foreign policy. Legolas - 17/10/2017 08:33:37 PM 789 Views
Ok, fair enough Tom - 17/10/2017 09:15:14 PM 737 Views
Yes. I think the days of American armed intervention in Latin-America are well behind us. Legolas - 17/10/2017 11:54:41 PM 763 Views
Regarding 'Make America Great Again'. Trump wasn't the first. He won't be the last. The Shrike - 17/10/2017 08:44:09 PM 919 Views
Do we still have WSE points? I was quite the mogul in the waning days of WoTmania. *NM* Hieshyn - 16/10/2017 11:36:00 PM 517 Views
/me steals your WSE points. *NM* The Shrike - 17/10/2017 12:48:08 PM 505 Views
Interesting damookster - 16/10/2017 11:46:32 PM 835 Views
Old dude, you make a good point, too. LiterateDog - 17/10/2017 02:01:29 AM 785 Views
Authority for Authority sake is just as Mores-less as No Respect for Authority Roland00 - 17/10/2017 06:07:15 AM 833 Views
All generations experienced different cultures with different views *NM* random thoughts - 17/10/2017 11:41:40 AM 475 Views
Agreed but there is a difference in severity between 1997 to 2017 vs 997 to 1017 *NM* Roland00 - 18/10/2017 05:52:14 AM 478 Views
but less than 1900 vs 1920 random thoughts - 18/10/2017 02:27:59 PM 747 Views
I still have hope The Shrike - 17/10/2017 12:50:35 PM 842 Views
I shall endeavor to combine Tom'n'Mookie's theories into one grand theory of... LiterateDog - 17/10/2017 02:15:48 AM 811 Views
So we are back in the Age of Romanticism. Western Civilization has been there before. The Shrike - 17/10/2017 12:58:04 PM 806 Views
This article agrees with your assessment The Shrike - 17/10/2017 02:30:03 PM 908 Views
I appreciate your amendment. Ghavrel - 17/10/2017 03:14:19 AM 1085 Views
no it is just hard to see the problem from the inside random thoughts - 17/10/2017 11:51:08 AM 802 Views
Re: no it is just hard to see the problem from the inside - uh, yes. nossy - 17/10/2017 01:44:26 PM 884 Views
Most of us are very good at that random thoughts - 17/10/2017 08:24:50 PM 815 Views
Thanks. The Shrike - 17/10/2017 01:00:42 PM 729 Views
I disagree with relation to trigger warnings. Ghavrel - 17/10/2017 11:17:45 PM 794 Views
A fair point. - Still, how far will you extend them? The Shrike - 18/10/2017 12:47:50 AM 774 Views
I don't know, but I'm not entirely sure it's a big deal either way. Ghavrel - 18/10/2017 02:56:09 AM 726 Views
Nods Roland00 - 18/10/2017 03:17:17 AM 749 Views
And I would posit that no work of literature should have any trigger warnings. The Shrike - 18/10/2017 01:02:44 PM 923 Views
Re: And I would posit that no work of literature should have any trigger warnings. Ghavrel - 18/10/2017 08:48:01 PM 806 Views
How would you propose such warnings be worded? damookster - 18/10/2017 09:21:02 PM 779 Views
Do you know a lot of people who suffer from PTSD? Ghavrel - 19/10/2017 05:26:06 AM 956 Views
Stop. Now. Tom - 19/10/2017 06:21:13 AM 727 Views
Avoidance isn't the purpose of those warnings, though. Ghavrel - 19/10/2017 06:32:16 AM 767 Views
You would ruin the literature though. And discussions around the literature. The Shrike - 19/10/2017 01:21:20 PM 793 Views
That's reasonable. Ghavrel - 19/10/2017 11:58:56 PM 762 Views
Third party website? I fully support that. The Shrike - 20/10/2017 12:41:33 PM 893 Views
Peace for our time! I agree with everything you wrote here. I'm always a sucker for more studies. *NM* Ghavrel - 21/10/2017 07:03:31 AM 440 Views
Well argument settled becuase they already exist random thoughts - 23/10/2017 01:46:55 PM 700 Views
Yeah but they don't necessarily exist for works of literature usually read at the university level The Shrike - 24/10/2017 12:28:35 PM 733 Views
That is true but it could fixed if there was more demand random thoughts - 24/10/2017 10:00:21 PM 738 Views
I feel like I now need a trigger warning for trigger warnings. *NM* The Shrike - 25/10/2017 12:48:47 PM 520 Views
Fuck you Tom Roland00 - 19/10/2017 07:06:47 AM 897 Views
Oh come on... Belals Girl - 19/10/2017 05:12:46 PM 785 Views
HAHAHA! This from the person who can't even write a coherent post *NM* Tom - 20/10/2017 07:10:45 PM 466 Views
Oh please damookster - 19/10/2017 02:10:11 PM 853 Views
Re: Oh please Ghavrel - 20/10/2017 12:01:02 AM 788 Views
What is your basis for arguing that "trigger warnings" are beneficial? Tom - 20/10/2017 07:19:42 PM 760 Views
Ha! Joke's on you! We don't do interrogatories in the criminal system. Ghavrel - 21/10/2017 07:01:54 AM 806 Views
If you are not proposing altering any literature... Tom - 22/10/2017 04:28:53 PM 780 Views
I'm just gonna put this out there... Jeordam - 20/10/2017 07:24:55 PM 764 Views
Eh, I don't think that's accurate. Ghavrel - 21/10/2017 07:04:58 AM 703 Views
An unnecessary tool.... Jeordam - 23/10/2017 05:14:06 PM 717 Views
Why does this reasoning apply to PTSD but not to other diseases? PTSD is a physical issue. Ghavrel - 24/10/2017 12:33:31 AM 717 Views
I would challenge that statment.... Jeordam - 24/10/2017 05:14:17 PM 906 Views
Do you actually believe those examples are valid? *NM* random thoughts - 23/10/2017 07:32:59 PM 435 Views
Forget it, mook. He's just being a silly, stupid kid. He should know better. *NM* Tom - 19/10/2017 06:17:28 AM 551 Views
Agreed. Tom - 19/10/2017 06:16:33 AM 880 Views
Interesting article. Legolas - 17/10/2017 07:41:34 PM 796 Views
Why are some HUMANS wary of freedom? Roland00 - 17/10/2017 05:31:04 AM 752 Views
Maybe the victimhood thing is another kind of honor Cannoli - 17/10/2017 01:02:43 PM 808 Views
Because it's easier to absolve oneself of power sometimes. For those people anyway. The Shrike - 17/10/2017 01:10:41 PM 755 Views
I apologize before hand Roland00 - 18/10/2017 01:11:59 AM 754 Views
Only made it through page 2. Were there separate graphs for just N. American/West European nations? The Shrike - 18/10/2017 01:04:05 PM 732 Views
I haven't read all the comments, so I apologize if I'm doubling up nossy - 17/10/2017 01:06:00 PM 972 Views
Oh those echo chambers. The Shrike - 17/10/2017 01:16:40 PM 851 Views
I hate blaming things nossy - 17/10/2017 02:04:44 PM 937 Views
I'm not even sure "echo chamber" is the right phrase Tom - 17/10/2017 02:17:07 PM 878 Views
I'm not sure that is the most common choice. nossy - 17/10/2017 05:21:52 PM 950 Views
I get irritated too. But I still keep them in my news feed as well. The Shrike - 17/10/2017 08:49:45 PM 749 Views
Je ne regrette rien. My memes are both spicy and piquant. *NM* Ghavrel - 17/10/2017 11:20:55 PM 430 Views
I'm of Russian extraction. I like my food bland. Garlic, dill, salt, pepper. It's enough for me. The Shrike - 18/10/2017 12:52:27 AM 738 Views
You know, I'd not thought about that. Ghavrel - 18/10/2017 03:07:05 AM 794 Views
I find him intriguing as a Captain. The Shrike - 18/10/2017 01:09:07 PM 749 Views
So now we are at episode 6 The Shrike - 24/10/2017 12:31:06 PM 667 Views
6 was by far the best episode of the series. *NM* Ghavrel - 24/10/2017 08:07:55 PM 452 Views
Yes The Shrike - 25/10/2017 12:50:15 PM 744 Views
But are your Memes brothy and fully of Umami? Roland00 - 18/10/2017 01:17:07 AM 694 Views
Umami is an irritating word *NM* damookster - 18/10/2017 04:59:21 PM 402 Views
Yes, ohdaddy is a much better word. *NM* LiterateDog - 18/10/2017 05:15:48 PM 509 Views
*NM* damookster - 18/10/2017 05:39:12 PM 442 Views
*NM* The Shrike - 18/10/2017 06:27:31 PM 428 Views
Snorts / Laughs so hard that I almost lost the drink I was enjoying. *NM* Roland00 - 19/10/2017 06:00:47 AM 468 Views
I do think some of this is specifically American and to a lesser extent the rest of the Anglosphere. Legolas - 17/10/2017 06:26:33 PM 807 Views
Agreed with all your points. The Shrike - 17/10/2017 08:53:23 PM 816 Views
The Netherlands, I'm not so sure about. Legolas - 17/10/2017 11:43:54 PM 783 Views
My apologies. I see Dutch and don't think of Belgium. The Shrike - 18/10/2017 12:56:26 AM 781 Views
That's alright. This is a confusing country in many ways. Legolas - 18/10/2017 08:58:15 PM 758 Views
America and to a lesser extent the rest of the Anglosphere puts a higher valuer on liberty *NM* random thoughts - 19/10/2017 01:53:50 PM 470 Views
Yes, in some ways it does. *NM* Legolas - 19/10/2017 05:38:41 PM 472 Views
Simple, true fredom is includes the freedom to fail HyogaRott - 20/10/2017 05:43:13 PM 818 Views
Re: Simple, true fredom is/includes the freedom to fail *NM* HyogaRott - 20/10/2017 05:45:51 PM 502 Views
Yes it is the freedom to fail Roland00 - 20/10/2017 06:36:02 PM 825 Views
This entire thread was so awesome.... Jeordam - 20/10/2017 07:12:46 PM 838 Views
Jeo I think you in particular will appreciate this damookster - 20/10/2017 09:07:39 PM 772 Views
Interesting.....wisdom from on high.... Jeordam - 20/10/2017 09:58:36 PM 692 Views
damn it *NM* damookster - 20/10/2017 09:07:39 PM 405 Views
I think a lot of us are thinking about trigger warnings differently. Ghavrel - 21/10/2017 07:07:01 AM 767 Views
Maybe, maybe not... Jeordam - 23/10/2017 05:18:16 PM 677 Views
Glad you enjoyed it and that it provoked thought. The Shrike - 23/10/2017 02:32:57 PM 751 Views
I see this as... Jeordam - 23/10/2017 05:23:54 PM 734 Views
I kind of break them down into two types Vodalus - 22/10/2017 03:25:04 AM 814 Views
I wonder how much the fall of communism has to do with this? random thoughts - 24/10/2017 10:20:16 PM 777 Views
Definitely more than a bit. The Shrike - 25/10/2017 12:51:55 PM 707 Views
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