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Here you are being too optimistic. Sadly for the US and the world. The Shrike Send a noteboard - 15/06/2018 05:55:14 PM

But call me an optimist, I don't think Trump voters will let themselves be taken for fools forever.

It doesn't matter to them. The polarization of politics here is quite complete that there is almost no room for centrists or independent thought. The fact that Trump has the (R) next to his name is all that matters.

I am just hoping to see the House and/or Senate flip in 2018 so we have divided government here and then there can be greater checks on the executive.

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So. Trump and the little rocket man. Legolas - 13/06/2018 10:09:45 PM 1249 Views
Typical nonsense Cannoli - 13/06/2018 11:12:19 PM 818 Views
Wow, I get line by line commentary... nice. Legolas - 14/06/2018 12:22:12 AM 752 Views
Actually, the article that got the commentary, I left your not-particularly risible words alone Cannoli - 14/06/2018 06:12:58 AM 836 Views
The point is, in a negotiation, it's about what things are worth to the other side - not to you. Legolas - 14/06/2018 08:04:30 AM 734 Views
Mostly agree with you AgentApple - 14/06/2018 10:25:35 AM 718 Views
Terrifying if Trump's emotive language is genuine kHz1000 - 13/06/2018 11:27:37 PM 868 Views
Have you ever worked with someone... Jeordam - 14/06/2018 05:03:19 PM 737 Views
Re: Have you ever worked with someone... kHz1000 - 15/06/2018 09:14:50 PM 821 Views
So less on the article... Jeordam - 14/06/2018 05:01:26 PM 728 Views
didn't you know that joint military operations are all the keep them from rolling of South Korea???? *NM* random thoughts - 14/06/2018 07:23:12 PM 404 Views
As I said to Cannoli - it's not about what it costs the US, but about what it's worth to North Korea Legolas - 14/06/2018 07:26:43 PM 770 Views
Trump doesn't care what Kim and North Korea pretend... damookster - 14/06/2018 07:48:26 PM 714 Views
It certainly seems that way. Legolas - 14/06/2018 11:14:58 PM 697 Views
The conservative never-Trumpers hate him as much, if not more, than the liberals. damookster - 14/06/2018 11:36:46 PM 715 Views
As they should. Legolas - 15/06/2018 12:02:40 AM 703 Views
What real worlkd gains does Norht Korea get? random thoughts - 14/06/2018 08:40:32 PM 708 Views
So let them think it... Jeordam - 14/06/2018 10:21:46 PM 746 Views
Funny how it went from Trump is going to start WWIII to Trump caved random thoughts - 14/06/2018 07:21:44 PM 746 Views
Um, yes. Trump radically changed his position, so the media descriptions changed too? Legolas - 14/06/2018 07:40:37 PM 710 Views
The problem is the media posistion is always the same, Trump is wrong. random thoughts - 14/06/2018 08:30:38 PM 709 Views
That would be more convincing if you said it in a case where he was right. Legolas - 14/06/2018 09:17:43 PM 723 Views
I don't agree... gban007 - 14/06/2018 09:37:23 PM 735 Views
I agree with this. damookster - 14/06/2018 10:08:27 PM 757 Views
They're not contradictory - just a bit more subtle than having two binary options. Legolas - 14/06/2018 11:01:39 PM 839 Views
Well gban007 - 15/06/2018 12:03:41 AM 721 Views
Here you are being too optimistic. Sadly for the US and the world. The Shrike - 15/06/2018 05:55:14 PM 723 Views
I'd say it was mostly the Democrats who caused and are causing this divide. AgentApple - 20/06/2018 09:07:58 AM 765 Views
If you think it's mostly Democrats, you're partisan enough to be a part of the problem. The Shrike - 20/06/2018 12:29:38 PM 705 Views
I'm *kinda* with you? Jeordam - 20/06/2018 04:20:46 PM 727 Views
Ratings are creeping up because of outrage fatigue ? That makes no sense. AgentApple - 20/06/2018 09:02:17 AM 730 Views
Sure it does. Legolas - 22/06/2018 10:02:39 PM 754 Views
It's a start, albeit a very weak start. The Shrike - 15/06/2018 05:49:27 PM 695 Views
Wouldn't that be ironic? damookster - 15/06/2018 06:03:37 PM 726 Views
Nothing here *NM* kHz1000 - 15/06/2018 09:10:51 PM 441 Views
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