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For a minute there... Legolas Send a noteboard - 08/08/2018 11:33:16 PM

View original postFascinating article from the liberal Vox website, using data exclusively from left leaning or neutral sources. Conclusion: The Sanders/Ocasio-Cortez platform is unaffordable and unrealistic. It would raise government spending to 60% of GDP and require a minimum 38% increase of the Federal payroll tax above and beyond the existing 15.3%. Or a European style VAT of 87%.

I thought you were saying that having a VAT of 87 percent was 'European style'.
View original postFree everything for all sounds wonderful, but it ain't free. The unanswered question remains, how are you gonna pay for it?

Yeah, for the most parts these things only work in European countries because they aren't free - just affordable. Not just because that makes the financing less daunting, also because people have a tendency to over-consume free stuff, visit the doctor more often than is really useful, not take their free college studies seriously, etc.

But just because Sanders' exact plan (which I don't believe Ocasio-Cortez has endorsed, incidentally) doesn't make sense, doesn't mean that something in that general direction couldn't be possible. It probably makes more sense to keep all this more on the state level and less on the federal level, though - both for political reasons and for practical ones. And the job guarantee idea is pretty far out there either way.

I'm also a bit baffled by infrastructure getting tossed in there - surely that's one thing you have fairly wide consensus over, and something that economists agree makes sense to spend money on, even if you have to borrow for it, since it enhances productivity. At least, if you support the right projects.

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