Active Users:358 Time:02/07/2025 05:11:32 AM
Yes - some interesting points on the reason why your costs would remain higher. Legolas Send a noteboard - 09/08/2018 11:34:44 PM

View original postRather that ours would have to be that high to pay for all this. As the writer explains, even if we could get all health care providers to sign on for a 40% cut in their rates, which is debatable, our costs would still be higher per person than any country in Europe.

However, whether it's on the health care, the education or the infrastructure, the article does ignore the indirect gains that would result - healthier, better educated citizens with higher productivity. For instance, one of the reasons why Medicare is so unaffordable is the way people keep medical costs to a bare minimum before turning 65, then once they do reach that age, suddenly they try to get everything fixed, when it would've been so much cheaper to deal with their health issues earlier and keep them from getting out of hand. Anyway, not that those indirect gains would make the sums work, not when Sanders insists on having everything free instead of merely affordable, but they do make it all a bit less crazy.
View original postActually her platform goes farther left than Bernie's does. But neither of them will answer where the money is supposed to come from.

I remember reading her platform and noting the most crazy idea in it, which isn't even mentioned in your article: full carbon neutrality by 2030. I'd be interested in seeing a cost estimate for that one...
View original postI believe his point about infrastructure is that standard budget items will also go up so the eventual bill will be even higher.

It was listed among the specific left-wing items, not among the baseline budget deficit that would be there anyway.
Reply to message
Millennials seem to like Democratic Socialism. But no one will like the bill. - 08/08/2018 04:13:25 PM 889 Views
You don't expect that to stop them do you? - 08/08/2018 06:54:39 PM 404 Views
For a minute there... - 08/08/2018 11:33:16 PM 436 Views
Nope - 09/08/2018 12:11:13 AM 447 Views
Yes - some interesting points on the reason why your costs would remain higher. - 09/08/2018 11:34:44 PM 409 Views
Doing infrastructure at the federal level is more complicated than people want to admit - 10/08/2018 01:27:25 PM 428 Views
As someone living in North Alabama, our highways are pretty well maintained. - 10/08/2018 06:30:28 PM 403 Views
Can confirm. - 10/08/2018 06:52:13 PM 396 Views
I will admit it has gotten better - 15/08/2018 02:34:14 PM 410 Views
Connecticut highways are awful. - 15/08/2018 02:45:06 PM 378 Views
Laughs at Mookie - 09/08/2018 03:31:23 AM 471 Views
silly Roland - 09/08/2018 03:34:04 PM 427 Views
The rich will finally just have to pay their fair share. - 09/08/2018 05:16:28 PM 457 Views
exactly! then just cut military spending and there you go! - 09/08/2018 06:17:35 PM 420 Views
At some point shuldn't we cut military spending? - 10/08/2018 01:32:17 PM 395 Views
maybe - 10/08/2018 01:42:48 PM 427 Views
I don't know the solution but the current system is unsustainable *NM* - 15/08/2018 11:14:27 PM 197 Views
But would it even be a net gain? - 16/08/2018 12:21:40 AM 400 Views
If it is just a question of spending money we can find more productive ways to do that - 17/08/2018 02:20:43 PM 421 Views
Excellent post. *NM* - 17/08/2018 05:15:30 PM 192 Views
Sanders' Medicare for all idea costs $32.6 Trillion over the next 10 years - 09/08/2018 08:12:27 PM 438 Views
Honest question? - 15/08/2018 12:40:22 AM 427 Views
Ocasio-Cortez has been anointed as the new face of the Democratic Party. Not Tlaib. *NM* - 15/08/2018 01:06:04 PM 181 Views
Why? - 15/08/2018 01:47:38 PM 400 Views
NYC gets more attention than Detroit? - 15/08/2018 02:43:57 PM 411 Views
The Unexamined Life *NM* - 15/08/2018 10:43:18 PM 227 Views

Reply to Message