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If someone believes fornication, adultery and homosexual relations are gross sins, based on his religious tenets, that makes him a homophobe?

What universe have you been living in that this comes as a surprise to you?

If someone uses religious beliefs to justify subjugating women, would they not be sexist?

If someone uses religious beliefs to oppose interracial marriage, or evince disgust and interracial sex, would they not be racist?

The cause of phobia can be anything. External observers really cannot say. But if you are willing to state in a public forum that homsexual acts, women doing work, or the mixing of races disgust them, then yes, they are being homophobic/sexist/racist.

Let me give you an analogy. Communist China under Mao criminalized homosexuality, and enforced those laws quite stringently. If someone who genuinely believed in that Communist ideology said that they believed homosexuals belonged in jail, not because of homophobia, but because they supported the rule of law, would you give them a pass from their homophobia?

Or lets say someone in Saudi Arabia said that they weren't sexist for believing women who drive are disgusting. They believe it is a sin, per their religion. Would you say they weren't sexist for, after all, simply believing in their religious tenets?

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Interesting article in my Twitter feed last night on an issue Greg (The Shrike) brought up... - 15/08/2018 03:05:37 PM 1277 Views
I thought this response in the comment sectionwas funny - 15/08/2018 08:12:49 PM 604 Views
I was thinking about this at lunch today.... - 15/08/2018 11:43:33 PM 587 Views
I don't - 16/08/2018 12:09:32 AM 613 Views
It seemed more like moondog was making a prostitution reference to me *NM* - 16/08/2018 02:51:23 AM 312 Views
Say what? - 16/08/2018 09:47:19 PM 592 Views
It is a more of a domination / hierarchy reference I think *NM* - 16/08/2018 09:57:23 PM 300 Views
Re: Say what? - 16/08/2018 10:33:43 PM 659 Views
Yes, but there's more to it... - 16/08/2018 10:38:05 PM 570 Views
Says who? - 19/08/2018 05:05:37 AM 601 Views
However much of a hypocrite moondog is, the article, I feel, represents something else - 16/08/2018 05:51:59 AM 605 Views
Phobia - 16/08/2018 10:55:05 PM 627 Views
You don't even understand oral sex? - 17/08/2018 12:43:50 AM 587 Views
Get to a sex education class, won't you? Or at least, use Google - 17/08/2018 05:29:25 AM 520 Views
I am a normal male person, who had conversations with other male people. - 17/08/2018 08:25:48 AM 581 Views
Yes, yes, you're so male, your penis has a penis. We get it. - 17/08/2018 04:13:09 PM 613 Views
Re: Yes, yes, you're so male, your penis has a penis. We get it. - 19/08/2018 03:23:10 AM 599 Views
You are wrong about Cannoli. - 17/08/2018 02:49:35 AM 597 Views
No - 17/08/2018 05:41:22 AM 573 Views
Re: No - 19/08/2018 03:29:15 AM 636 Views
Cannoli is right: "sucks" implies the active party in oral sex - 17/08/2018 03:04:40 AM 686 Views
That would be the "receptive partner" in scientific terminology - 17/08/2018 05:44:16 AM 561 Views
Fuck scientific terminology. It blows. - 17/08/2018 08:26:16 AM 570 Views
Regarding phobia - 17/08/2018 06:30:51 PM 631 Views
There's a pretty simple test, I think - 17/08/2018 08:02:31 PM 569 Views
Once again...who are you to make that determination. - 17/08/2018 09:54:41 PM 551 Views
*I* don't make the determination, liberal society did. - 18/08/2018 12:02:22 AM 583 Views
So for clarity - 18/08/2018 01:28:17 AM 580 Views
Yes! - 18/08/2018 01:46:05 AM 569 Views
Who said I was surprised? - 18/08/2018 02:10:46 AM 570 Views
Re: Who said I was surprised? - 18/08/2018 02:32:41 AM 582 Views
Are you asking a serious question? - 18/08/2018 02:45:03 AM 589 Views
Yes, I was - 18/08/2018 01:59:48 PM 584 Views
"liberal" society does not police speech - 19/08/2018 03:31:54 AM 582 Views
You don't need to protect speech everyone agrees with. *NM* - 19/08/2018 06:02:17 PM 408 Views
It most certainly *does* police speech. - 20/08/2018 03:01:32 PM 579 Views
But to follow up on that. - 20/08/2018 03:16:07 PM 583 Views
Well, that's why we didn't stop with the FIRST Amendment *NM* - 21/08/2018 04:25:53 PM 289 Views
That's individuals policing speech, not society. Agregate individual action =/= collective action - 21/08/2018 04:25:23 PM 597 Views
I completely agree. - 21/08/2018 04:35:38 PM 582 Views
heh, heh, heh - 21/08/2018 05:00:32 PM 556 Views
Hump it like you mean it! - 21/08/2018 07:00:01 PM 614 Views
About the casual part - 16/08/2018 10:33:45 PM 553 Views
I don't think it's appropriate, but I think it's more about sexual shaming - 16/08/2018 10:35:53 PM 630 Views
Precisely - 16/08/2018 10:59:42 PM 622 Views
You are absolutely correct - 17/08/2018 02:43:21 AM 616 Views
I, for one, am glad to see this topic go flaming. - 17/08/2018 05:16:55 PM 660 Views
Yes, it is a tool used by those who should "know better". - 20/08/2018 03:14:30 PM 552 Views
well said - 20/08/2018 03:50:50 PM 602 Views

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