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If someone believes fornication, adultery and homosexual relations are gross sins, based on his religious tenets, that makes him a homophobe?

What universe have you been living in that this comes as a surprise to you?

If someone uses religious beliefs to justify subjugating women, would they not be sexist?

If someone uses religious beliefs to oppose interracial marriage, or evince disgust and interracial sex, would they not be racist?

The cause of phobia can be anything. External observers really cannot say. But if you are willing to state in a public forum that homsexual acts, women doing work, or the mixing of races disgust them, then yes, they are being homophobic/sexist/racist.

Let me give you an analogy. Communist China under Mao criminalized homosexuality, and enforced those laws quite stringently. If someone who genuinely believed in that Communist ideology said that they believed homosexuals belonged in jail, not because of homophobia, but because they supported the rule of law, would you give them a pass from their homophobia?

Or lets say someone in Saudi Arabia said that they weren't sexist for believing women who drive are disgusting. They believe it is a sin, per their religion. Would you say they weren't sexist for, after all, simply believing in their religious tenets?

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Interesting article in my Twitter feed last night on an issue Greg (The Shrike) brought up... - 15/08/2018 03:05:37 PM 1218 Views
I thought this response in the comment sectionwas funny - 15/08/2018 08:12:49 PM 546 Views
I was thinking about this at lunch today.... - 15/08/2018 11:43:33 PM 527 Views
I don't - 16/08/2018 12:09:32 AM 554 Views
It seemed more like moondog was making a prostitution reference to me *NM* - 16/08/2018 02:51:23 AM 283 Views
Say what? - 16/08/2018 09:47:19 PM 532 Views
It is a more of a domination / hierarchy reference I think *NM* - 16/08/2018 09:57:23 PM 273 Views
Re: Say what? - 16/08/2018 10:33:43 PM 601 Views
Yes, but there's more to it... - 16/08/2018 10:38:05 PM 509 Views
Says who? - 19/08/2018 05:05:37 AM 544 Views
However much of a hypocrite moondog is, the article, I feel, represents something else - 16/08/2018 05:51:59 AM 550 Views
Phobia - 16/08/2018 10:55:05 PM 538 Views
You don't even understand oral sex? - 17/08/2018 12:43:50 AM 523 Views
Get to a sex education class, won't you? Or at least, use Google - 17/08/2018 05:29:25 AM 470 Views
I am a normal male person, who had conversations with other male people. - 17/08/2018 08:25:48 AM 528 Views
Yes, yes, you're so male, your penis has a penis. We get it. - 17/08/2018 04:13:09 PM 555 Views
Re: Yes, yes, you're so male, your penis has a penis. We get it. - 19/08/2018 03:23:10 AM 543 Views
You are wrong about Cannoli. - 17/08/2018 02:49:35 AM 540 Views
No - 17/08/2018 05:41:22 AM 517 Views
Re: No - 19/08/2018 03:29:15 AM 580 Views
Cannoli is right: "sucks" implies the active party in oral sex - 17/08/2018 03:04:40 AM 622 Views
That would be the "receptive partner" in scientific terminology - 17/08/2018 05:44:16 AM 505 Views
Fuck scientific terminology. It blows. - 17/08/2018 08:26:16 AM 517 Views
Regarding phobia - 17/08/2018 06:30:51 PM 572 Views
There's a pretty simple test, I think - 17/08/2018 08:02:31 PM 514 Views
Once again...who are you to make that determination. - 17/08/2018 09:54:41 PM 495 Views
*I* don't make the determination, liberal society did. - 18/08/2018 12:02:22 AM 531 Views
So for clarity - 18/08/2018 01:28:17 AM 527 Views
Yes! - 18/08/2018 01:46:05 AM 513 Views
Who said I was surprised? - 18/08/2018 02:10:46 AM 514 Views
Re: Who said I was surprised? - 18/08/2018 02:32:41 AM 527 Views
Are you asking a serious question? - 18/08/2018 02:45:03 AM 536 Views
Yes, I was - 18/08/2018 01:59:48 PM 532 Views
"liberal" society does not police speech - 19/08/2018 03:31:54 AM 526 Views
You don't need to protect speech everyone agrees with. *NM* - 19/08/2018 06:02:17 PM 383 Views
It most certainly *does* police speech. - 20/08/2018 03:01:32 PM 523 Views
But to follow up on that. - 20/08/2018 03:16:07 PM 528 Views
Well, that's why we didn't stop with the FIRST Amendment *NM* - 21/08/2018 04:25:53 PM 263 Views
That's individuals policing speech, not society. Agregate individual action =/= collective action - 21/08/2018 04:25:23 PM 538 Views
I completely agree. - 21/08/2018 04:35:38 PM 496 Views
heh, heh, heh - 21/08/2018 05:00:32 PM 505 Views
Hump it like you mean it! - 21/08/2018 07:00:01 PM 555 Views
About the casual part - 16/08/2018 10:33:45 PM 500 Views
I don't think it's appropriate, but I think it's more about sexual shaming - 16/08/2018 10:35:53 PM 572 Views
Precisely - 16/08/2018 10:59:42 PM 573 Views
You are absolutely correct - 17/08/2018 02:43:21 AM 529 Views
I, for one, am glad to see this topic go flaming. - 17/08/2018 05:16:55 PM 595 Views
Yes, it is a tool used by those who should "know better". - 20/08/2018 03:14:30 PM 496 Views
well said - 20/08/2018 03:50:50 PM 547 Views

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