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It most certainly *does* police speech. LiterateDog Send a noteboard - 20/08/2018 03:01:32 PM

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Classical liberalism fully supports the right to criticize and demean persons and concepts. Otherwise what is the point. Claiming that freedom of speech, a bedrock civil right of liberal societies, does not apply to negative speech invalidates the whole point.

It isn't supposed to do so in any way involving government action, true, but even the most liberal of societies police speech. Meaning, you can say whatever you like, but there are and should be societal consequences. Make racist anti-Jewish rants? I'm not going to invite you to my parties. Nor will I patronize your business. As a potential employer, I might not hire you. To say that "freedom of speech" is somehow equal to "freedom from consequences for my speech" is ludicrous. A sufficiently liberal society would be reluctant to use such tools; confining it to only those who represent the most extreme and/or dangerous views. And shouldn't be used to silence those with "controversial" views, as you should have a right to "speak". But again, as with many things in life, you should have the freedom to do it, but are not free from the consequences.

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Re: Say what? - 16/08/2018 10:33:43 PM 790 Views
Yes, but there's more to it... - 16/08/2018 10:38:05 PM 685 Views
Says who? - 19/08/2018 05:05:37 AM 749 Views
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Phobia - 16/08/2018 10:55:05 PM 748 Views
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Re: Yes, yes, you're so male, your penis has a penis. We get it. - 19/08/2018 03:23:10 AM 708 Views
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No - 17/08/2018 05:41:22 AM 693 Views
Re: No - 19/08/2018 03:29:15 AM 762 Views
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Regarding phobia - 17/08/2018 06:30:51 PM 757 Views
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Once again...who are you to make that determination. - 17/08/2018 09:54:41 PM 677 Views
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So for clarity - 18/08/2018 01:28:17 AM 707 Views
Yes! - 18/08/2018 01:46:05 AM 689 Views
Who said I was surprised? - 18/08/2018 02:10:46 AM 699 Views
Re: Who said I was surprised? - 18/08/2018 02:32:41 AM 705 Views
Are you asking a serious question? - 18/08/2018 02:45:03 AM 708 Views
Yes, I was - 18/08/2018 01:59:48 PM 708 Views
"liberal" society does not police speech - 19/08/2018 03:31:54 AM 712 Views
You don't need to protect speech everyone agrees with. *NM* - 19/08/2018 06:02:17 PM 473 Views
It most certainly *does* police speech. - 20/08/2018 03:01:32 PM 703 Views
But to follow up on that. - 20/08/2018 03:16:07 PM 705 Views
Well, that's why we didn't stop with the FIRST Amendment *NM* - 21/08/2018 04:25:53 PM 347 Views
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Hump it like you mean it! - 21/08/2018 07:00:01 PM 739 Views
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well said - 20/08/2018 03:50:50 PM 725 Views

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