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Sigh I foresee 7 days of homosexual prison jokes in the near future in media adjacent places Roland00 Send a noteboard - 22/08/2018 04:42:23 AM

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in moondog's post about Trump and Russia.

Seems moondog is far from the only leftist who use "casual homophobia" to attack Trump and other Republicans. It's common enough for the usually execrable HuffPost to write an article about it.

Casual homophobia is a typically contrived phrase for a perfectly good existing word: hypocrisy.


Sigh I foresee 7 days of homosexual prison jokes in the near future in media adjacent places. That is because of the Cohen and Manafort thing, and somehow prison rape is "part of how we see punishment" and thus prison rape jokes and so on.

This thing is vile for several reasons.
1) Even if you are the most vile person on earth you should still have body autonomy and rape is at its core a violation of the autonomy.
2) It is a form of homophobia not just about power structures but also homophobia against consensual gay sex even though rape is definition not consensual.
3) Prison rape is a serious thing for it is arbitrary and it is a real problem in prison. Yet if we joke around about it being part of our culture of punishment then no one is going to take the steps necessary to lower the occurrence of prison rape occurring in prison. (Yes there are things that can be done.)

So yeah I am dreading the next 7 days for while I will not think about it, I know I am going to see it somewhere in a media adjacent commentary.

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Interesting article in my Twitter feed last night on an issue Greg (The Shrike) brought up... damookster - 15/08/2018 03:05:37 PM 1323 Views
I thought this response in the comment sectionwas funny random thoughts - 15/08/2018 08:12:49 PM 647 Views
I was thinking about this at lunch today.... Jeordam - 15/08/2018 11:43:33 PM 635 Views
I don't damookster - 16/08/2018 12:09:32 AM 651 Views
It seemed more like moondog was making a prostitution reference to me *NM* ßelals Girl - 16/08/2018 02:51:23 AM 329 Views
Say what? The Shrike - 16/08/2018 09:47:19 PM 629 Views
It is a more of a domination / hierarchy reference I think *NM* Roland00 - 16/08/2018 09:57:23 PM 316 Views
Re: Say what? Belals Girl - 16/08/2018 10:33:43 PM 705 Views
Yes, but there's more to it... fionwe1987 - 16/08/2018 10:38:05 PM 609 Views
Says who? ßelals Girl - 19/08/2018 05:05:37 AM 650 Views
However much of a hypocrite moondog is, the article, I feel, represents something else Cannoli - 16/08/2018 05:51:59 AM 639 Views
Agreed that they went way too far by including everyday useage of the word, sucks. damookster - 16/08/2018 02:15:54 PM 612 Views
Phobia fionwe1987 - 16/08/2018 10:55:05 PM 671 Views
You don't even understand oral sex? Cannoli - 17/08/2018 12:43:50 AM 630 Views
Get to a sex education class, won't you? Or at least, use Google fionwe1987 - 17/08/2018 05:29:25 AM 563 Views
I am a normal male person, who had conversations with other male people. Cannoli - 17/08/2018 08:25:48 AM 617 Views
Yes, yes, you're so male, your penis has a penis. We get it. fionwe1987 - 17/08/2018 04:13:09 PM 650 Views
Re: Yes, yes, you're so male, your penis has a penis. We get it. Cannoli - 19/08/2018 03:23:10 AM 635 Views
You are wrong about Cannoli. damookster - 17/08/2018 02:49:35 AM 646 Views
No fionwe1987 - 17/08/2018 05:41:22 AM 609 Views
Re: No Cannoli - 19/08/2018 03:29:15 AM 683 Views
Cannoli is right: "sucks" implies the active party in oral sex Tom - 17/08/2018 03:04:40 AM 745 Views
That would be the "receptive partner" in scientific terminology fionwe1987 - 17/08/2018 05:44:16 AM 602 Views
Fuck scientific terminology. It blows. Cannoli - 17/08/2018 08:26:16 AM 611 Views
Regarding phobia Jeordam - 17/08/2018 06:30:51 PM 675 Views
There's a pretty simple test, I think fionwe1987 - 17/08/2018 08:02:31 PM 626 Views
Once again...who are you to make that determination. Jeordam - 17/08/2018 09:54:41 PM 594 Views
*I* don't make the determination, liberal society did. fionwe1987 - 18/08/2018 12:02:22 AM 620 Views
So for clarity damookster - 18/08/2018 01:28:17 AM 628 Views
Yes! fionwe1987 - 18/08/2018 01:46:05 AM 618 Views
Who said I was surprised? damookster - 18/08/2018 02:10:46 AM 620 Views
Re: Who said I was surprised? fionwe1987 - 18/08/2018 02:32:41 AM 626 Views
Are you asking a serious question? damookster - 18/08/2018 02:45:03 AM 631 Views
Yes, I was fionwe1987 - 18/08/2018 01:59:48 PM 625 Views
"liberal" society does not police speech Cannoli - 19/08/2018 03:31:54 AM 624 Views
You don't need to protect speech everyone agrees with. *NM* Hieshyn - 19/08/2018 06:02:17 PM 430 Views
It most certainly *does* police speech. LiterateDog - 20/08/2018 03:01:32 PM 620 Views
But to follow up on that. LiterateDog - 20/08/2018 03:16:07 PM 628 Views
Well, that's why we didn't stop with the FIRST Amendment *NM* Cannoli - 21/08/2018 04:25:53 PM 304 Views
That's individuals policing speech, not society. Agregate individual action =/= collective action Cannoli - 21/08/2018 04:25:23 PM 638 Views
I completely agree. LiterateDog - 21/08/2018 04:35:38 PM 625 Views
heh, heh, heh damookster - 21/08/2018 05:00:32 PM 599 Views
Hump it like you mean it! LiterateDog - 21/08/2018 07:00:01 PM 658 Views
Exactly. "Islamophobia is a word created by fascists and used by cowards to manipulate morons." Tom - 20/08/2018 08:54:03 PM 623 Views
I reiterate that I sometimes expect it from people who may be right of center/right. The Shrike - 16/08/2018 09:52:08 PM 660 Views
About the casual part fionwe1987 - 16/08/2018 10:33:45 PM 590 Views
I don't think it's appropriate, but I think it's more about sexual shaming Tom - 16/08/2018 10:35:53 PM 671 Views
Precisely fionwe1987 - 16/08/2018 10:59:42 PM 671 Views
You are absolutely correct damookster - 17/08/2018 02:43:21 AM 657 Views
I, for one, am glad to see this topic go flaming. aerocontrols - 17/08/2018 05:16:55 PM 705 Views
Yes, it is a tool used by those who should "know better". LiterateDog - 20/08/2018 03:14:30 PM 597 Views
well said damookster - 20/08/2018 03:50:50 PM 648 Views
Sigh I foresee 7 days of homosexual prison jokes in the near future in media adjacent places Roland00 - 22/08/2018 04:42:23 AM 578 Views
I think our casual acceptance of rape as part of prison is a major moral failure random thoughts - 22/08/2018 03:41:38 PM 593 Views
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