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Sigh I foresee 7 days of homosexual prison jokes in the near future in media adjacent places Roland00 Send a noteboard - 22/08/2018 04:42:23 AM

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in moondog's post about Trump and Russia.

Seems moondog is far from the only leftist who use "casual homophobia" to attack Trump and other Republicans. It's common enough for the usually execrable HuffPost to write an article about it.

Casual homophobia is a typically contrived phrase for a perfectly good existing word: hypocrisy.


Sigh I foresee 7 days of homosexual prison jokes in the near future in media adjacent places. That is because of the Cohen and Manafort thing, and somehow prison rape is "part of how we see punishment" and thus prison rape jokes and so on.

This thing is vile for several reasons.
1) Even if you are the most vile person on earth you should still have body autonomy and rape is at its core a violation of the autonomy.
2) It is a form of homophobia not just about power structures but also homophobia against consensual gay sex even though rape is definition not consensual.
3) Prison rape is a serious thing for it is arbitrary and it is a real problem in prison. Yet if we joke around about it being part of our culture of punishment then no one is going to take the steps necessary to lower the occurrence of prison rape occurring in prison. (Yes there are things that can be done.)

So yeah I am dreading the next 7 days for while I will not think about it, I know I am going to see it somewhere in a media adjacent commentary.

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Interesting article in my Twitter feed last night on an issue Greg (The Shrike) brought up... damookster - 15/08/2018 03:05:37 PM 1400 Views
I thought this response in the comment sectionwas funny random thoughts - 15/08/2018 08:12:49 PM 724 Views
I was thinking about this at lunch today.... Jeordam - 15/08/2018 11:43:33 PM 711 Views
I don't damookster - 16/08/2018 12:09:32 AM 738 Views
It seemed more like moondog was making a prostitution reference to me *NM* ßelals Girl - 16/08/2018 02:51:23 AM 379 Views
Say what? The Shrike - 16/08/2018 09:47:19 PM 710 Views
It is a more of a domination / hierarchy reference I think *NM* Roland00 - 16/08/2018 09:57:23 PM 361 Views
Re: Say what? Belals Girl - 16/08/2018 10:33:43 PM 789 Views
Yes, but there's more to it... fionwe1987 - 16/08/2018 10:38:05 PM 685 Views
Says who? ßelals Girl - 19/08/2018 05:05:37 AM 749 Views
However much of a hypocrite moondog is, the article, I feel, represents something else Cannoli - 16/08/2018 05:51:59 AM 722 Views
Agreed that they went way too far by including everyday useage of the word, sucks. damookster - 16/08/2018 02:15:54 PM 690 Views
Phobia fionwe1987 - 16/08/2018 10:55:05 PM 747 Views
You don't even understand oral sex? Cannoli - 17/08/2018 12:43:50 AM 704 Views
Get to a sex education class, won't you? Or at least, use Google fionwe1987 - 17/08/2018 05:29:25 AM 640 Views
I am a normal male person, who had conversations with other male people. Cannoli - 17/08/2018 08:25:48 AM 698 Views
Yes, yes, you're so male, your penis has a penis. We get it. fionwe1987 - 17/08/2018 04:13:09 PM 740 Views
Re: Yes, yes, you're so male, your penis has a penis. We get it. Cannoli - 19/08/2018 03:23:10 AM 708 Views
You are wrong about Cannoli. damookster - 17/08/2018 02:49:35 AM 730 Views
No fionwe1987 - 17/08/2018 05:41:22 AM 693 Views
Re: No Cannoli - 19/08/2018 03:29:15 AM 761 Views
Cannoli is right: "sucks" implies the active party in oral sex Tom - 17/08/2018 03:04:40 AM 818 Views
That would be the "receptive partner" in scientific terminology fionwe1987 - 17/08/2018 05:44:16 AM 678 Views
Fuck scientific terminology. It blows. Cannoli - 17/08/2018 08:26:16 AM 686 Views
Regarding phobia Jeordam - 17/08/2018 06:30:51 PM 755 Views
There's a pretty simple test, I think fionwe1987 - 17/08/2018 08:02:31 PM 704 Views
Once again...who are you to make that determination. Jeordam - 17/08/2018 09:54:41 PM 676 Views
*I* don't make the determination, liberal society did. fionwe1987 - 18/08/2018 12:02:22 AM 697 Views
So for clarity damookster - 18/08/2018 01:28:17 AM 707 Views
Yes! fionwe1987 - 18/08/2018 01:46:05 AM 688 Views
Who said I was surprised? damookster - 18/08/2018 02:10:46 AM 697 Views
Re: Who said I was surprised? fionwe1987 - 18/08/2018 02:32:41 AM 705 Views
Are you asking a serious question? damookster - 18/08/2018 02:45:03 AM 706 Views
Yes, I was fionwe1987 - 18/08/2018 01:59:48 PM 707 Views
"liberal" society does not police speech Cannoli - 19/08/2018 03:31:54 AM 710 Views
You don't need to protect speech everyone agrees with. *NM* Hieshyn - 19/08/2018 06:02:17 PM 473 Views
It most certainly *does* police speech. LiterateDog - 20/08/2018 03:01:32 PM 701 Views
But to follow up on that. LiterateDog - 20/08/2018 03:16:07 PM 705 Views
Well, that's why we didn't stop with the FIRST Amendment *NM* Cannoli - 21/08/2018 04:25:53 PM 347 Views
That's individuals policing speech, not society. Agregate individual action =/= collective action Cannoli - 21/08/2018 04:25:23 PM 716 Views
I completely agree. LiterateDog - 21/08/2018 04:35:38 PM 702 Views
heh, heh, heh damookster - 21/08/2018 05:00:32 PM 663 Views
Hump it like you mean it! LiterateDog - 21/08/2018 07:00:01 PM 737 Views
Exactly. "Islamophobia is a word created by fascists and used by cowards to manipulate morons." Tom - 20/08/2018 08:54:03 PM 712 Views
I reiterate that I sometimes expect it from people who may be right of center/right. The Shrike - 16/08/2018 09:52:08 PM 754 Views
About the casual part fionwe1987 - 16/08/2018 10:33:45 PM 665 Views
I don't think it's appropriate, but I think it's more about sexual shaming Tom - 16/08/2018 10:35:53 PM 748 Views
Precisely fionwe1987 - 16/08/2018 10:59:42 PM 752 Views
You are absolutely correct damookster - 17/08/2018 02:43:21 AM 731 Views
I, for one, am glad to see this topic go flaming. aerocontrols - 17/08/2018 05:16:55 PM 791 Views
Yes, it is a tool used by those who should "know better". LiterateDog - 20/08/2018 03:14:30 PM 672 Views
well said damookster - 20/08/2018 03:50:50 PM 723 Views
Sigh I foresee 7 days of homosexual prison jokes in the near future in media adjacent places Roland00 - 22/08/2018 04:42:23 AM 665 Views
I think our casual acceptance of rape as part of prison is a major moral failure random thoughts - 22/08/2018 03:41:38 PM 670 Views
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