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That's kind of like saying.... Jeordam Send a noteboard - 18/01/2019 11:05:22 PM

if you drink water, it's gonna be wet.
Obviously if they aren't flying military, they are flying commercial.

The fact that there is any mention of "victory" is the upsetting part. There are no "winners" in this whole thing. There is only losers. Which is all of us.

They have to stop the grandstanding and start negotiating. There is nothing inherently immoral about a wall to keep people who have no right to be here out. This isn't a wall to force people to stay in (like a prison or the Iron Curtain). This isn't a wall to keep people away from their property. Those are immoral because they infringe on a person's liberty or property (or in the case of prison, to protect the public & ensure follow-through of sentence). This is not the case here.

Is it a colossal waste of money? It very well may be, but then the government wastes colossal amounts of money all the time. This is about ego. This is about stubbornness.

<Edit: Continuation of a thought on the purposes of a wall>

~Jeordam

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This message last edited by Jeordam on 18/01/2019 at 11:07:05 PM
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