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What is "the State" fionwe1987 Send a noteboard - 16/06/2020 02:57:34 PM

You tell me: would you put your trust in an unaccountable corporation that cares for it's growth only, or in a system where you get to kick the members out every 2 years, and the leader every 4.

Should there be improvements to voting and district allocation to improve the accountability of this democracy? Absolutely. But it's still more accountable to you than any company is today, including the one you work for.

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I'm curious. damookster - 08/06/2020 06:59:18 PM 1277 Views
Knowledge is always uncertain, there will always be under and overreactions. Roland00 - 08/06/2020 07:06:35 PM 543 Views
I would expect so, yes. *NM* Legolas - 08/06/2020 08:00:59 PM 282 Views
That yes is for which question? Or is it for both? *NM* damookster - 08/06/2020 08:23:06 PM 284 Views
The first one. Otherwise I'd have said no and yes. *NM* Legolas - 08/06/2020 09:19:48 PM 280 Views
Yes, I believe we will... fionwe1987 - 08/06/2020 10:15:30 PM 605 Views
Why are you so invested in either closing down the country or the seriousness of the flu? Cannoli - 09/06/2020 06:37:24 PM 624 Views
Because I care about my fellow human being, cockroach. Go infest somewhere else. I'm done with you. *NM* fionwe1987 - 09/06/2020 08:35:42 PM 294 Views
Except you don't. You really, REALLY want this disease to be worse than it is. Cannoli - 12/06/2020 11:06:50 AM 592 Views
Sure. Anyone who disagrees with you wants mass poverty or mass death. No other possibility exists... fionwe1987 - 12/06/2020 02:44:08 PM 570 Views
Fionwe same as other alt-left crazies Nargs - 16/06/2020 05:24:12 PM 620 Views
I dunno what's "alt" about it. We're the mainstream. Which must scare you fionwe1987 - 16/06/2020 06:06:44 PM 524 Views
Dissonance Nargs - 16/06/2020 08:02:08 PM 528 Views
Do you think it's possible to disagree, even vehemently damookster - 16/06/2020 08:14:50 PM 585 Views
I'm sure it is, in some conditions. fionwe1987 - 16/06/2020 09:43:50 PM 597 Views
I am not a middle aged white man. I'm an old white man. damookster - 16/06/2020 06:15:52 PM 579 Views
Evidence is not on your side, damook *NM* Nargs - 16/06/2020 07:27:39 PM 288 Views
Much like... Jeordam - 16/06/2020 07:34:14 PM 609 Views
Statistically Insignificant Nargs - 16/06/2020 08:07:03 PM 531 Views
Stats don't tell the whole story. damookster - 16/06/2020 08:06:17 PM 527 Views
You're right but on race? Nargs - 16/06/2020 08:08:40 PM 575 Views
Yes, you're right. damookster - 16/06/2020 08:17:04 PM 524 Views
You realize that's not a contradiction, right? fionwe1987 - 16/06/2020 09:49:56 PM 570 Views
A few points gban007 - 17/06/2020 09:29:15 PM 566 Views
I wasn't going to say it but... Nargs - 16/06/2020 08:17:57 PM 575 Views
Again: you really are a loathsome little ball of slime. Ghavrel - 10/06/2020 02:11:52 AM 543 Views
It's not my world, it's theirs. Cannoli - 12/06/2020 11:13:14 AM 566 Views
Burning down corporate stores and taking their stolen wealth is a moral good. *NM* Ghavrel - 15/06/2020 12:04:52 AM 289 Views
Stolen Wealth? Jeordam - 15/06/2020 04:50:59 PM 569 Views
How does one determine what is Original Sin? Roland00 - 15/06/2020 05:17:37 PM 565 Views
So then.... Jeordam - 15/06/2020 09:59:31 PM 558 Views
I'm uncertain if this is what Ghavrel meant, but I'd assume you don't need proof that slavery... fionwe1987 - 15/06/2020 07:59:07 PM 551 Views
So we're talking about reparations....? Jeordam - 15/06/2020 09:42:37 PM 577 Views
Why must money solve "all" issues? fionwe1987 - 15/06/2020 11:32:05 PM 540 Views
So then money won't... Jeordam - 16/06/2020 06:09:24 PM 595 Views
fionwe1987 - 16/06/2020 06:29:59 PM 546 Views
Those aren't codified examples Jeordam - 16/06/2020 07:31:49 PM 559 Views
Well that's some special nonsense fionwe1987 - 16/06/2020 09:55:42 PM 562 Views
We're having a discussion...please try and not denigrate me. Jeordam - 17/06/2020 05:26:36 PM 559 Views
But I didn't clearly state I want to denigrate you. You're inferring intent. How's that ok? fionwe1987 - 17/06/2020 06:06:28 PM 547 Views
Pain and Death they *actively* choose... Jeordam - 17/06/2020 06:39:13 PM 576 Views
They make no such choice. Which is why they're out there protesting fionwe1987 - 17/06/2020 07:00:25 PM 587 Views
Sigh Roland00 - 16/06/2020 08:15:12 PM 540 Views
Nah I just straight up think capitalism is evil. Reparations should be paid, though. *NM* Ghavrel - 16/06/2020 09:22:46 AM 275 Views
Fair enough. *NM* fionwe1987 - 16/06/2020 02:54:11 PM 267 Views
aaah... Jeordam - 16/06/2020 06:10:16 PM 564 Views
Re: Stolen Wealth? Ghavrel - 16/06/2020 09:21:32 AM 535 Views
Rather it should be The State? *NM* damookster - 16/06/2020 12:10:59 PM 266 Views
What is "the State" fionwe1987 - 16/06/2020 02:57:34 PM 540 Views
my comment was directed to Ghavrel. damookster - 16/06/2020 04:49:39 PM 532 Views
You shouldn't make assumptions... fionwe1987 - 16/06/2020 06:10:02 PM 539 Views
Lemme tell you about this cool thing called syndicalism... *NM* Ghavrel - 17/06/2020 06:46:38 AM 278 Views
There's a lot I like about that... *NM* fionwe1987 - 17/06/2020 06:07:47 PM 246 Views
Syndicalisme révolutionnaire, peut-être? *NM* damookster - 17/06/2020 06:29:00 PM 247 Views
I'm actually still a reformist, believe it or not. *NM* Ghavrel - 18/06/2020 03:29:18 PM 271 Views
Bah *NM* damookster - 18/06/2020 03:36:20 PM 242 Views
I been thinking about the different religious sects of Himboism, suddenly ... Roland00 - 29/06/2020 01:30:09 AM 531 Views
The only state with legitimacy is the Kingdom of Heaven. *NM* Ghavrel - 16/06/2020 08:57:26 PM 254 Views
Are we talking about the Mormon Sect? Roland00 - 16/06/2020 09:06:14 PM 508 Views
My bad damookster - 16/06/2020 10:20:14 PM 551 Views
In fairness, I usually talk policy goals as a social democrat. Ghavrel - 17/06/2020 12:34:45 AM 552 Views
They The Shrike - 17/06/2020 06:29:35 PM 558 Views
damookster - 17/06/2020 06:40:30 PM 557 Views
I go by she and her, but thank you. <3 *NM* Ghavrel - 18/06/2020 03:45:46 PM 286 Views
I try to be very sensitive to this. damookster - 18/06/2020 03:55:01 PM 558 Views
It means a great deal to me. I can't overstate how much it means to your grandson. *NM* Ghavrel - 18/06/2020 04:04:53 PM 290 Views
Catholicism by itself is a Performance Arts Piece Roland00 - 18/06/2020 01:17:45 AM 529 Views
A Catholic?! What?! I'm an Episcopalian. Ghavrel - 18/06/2020 03:45:24 PM 578 Views
No thanks. Not into non-democracies. *NM* The Shrike - 17/06/2020 06:26:29 PM 261 Views
Ah a fellow Devil's Party Member. *NM* Roland00 - 18/06/2020 01:13:37 AM 244 Views
I can empathize with this view, actually, though I no longer hold it. *NM* Ghavrel - 18/06/2020 03:47:24 PM 272 Views
That's the debate, isn't it. Jeordam - 16/06/2020 06:16:10 PM 512 Views
Economists have been arguing this for over 400 years. Roland00 - 16/06/2020 08:22:57 PM 545 Views
You could let the market determine that, I guess. Ghavrel - 16/06/2020 08:56:23 PM 537 Views
Because we do not live in Paradise. Jeordam - 17/06/2020 05:36:58 PM 526 Views
Exactly. So the worker should own the means of production with other workers. Ghavrel - 17/06/2020 06:11:21 PM 532 Views
So my question then is.... Jeordam - 17/06/2020 06:46:11 PM 577 Views
Sigh...I just can't not. Roland00 - 18/06/2020 01:20:09 AM 500 Views
You know "talent" in the Bible is explictly referring to money, right? Ghavrel - 18/06/2020 03:43:11 PM 572 Views
Jesus also said it is easier for a camel to pass though a needle's eye... damookster - 18/06/2020 03:49:43 PM 517 Views
This is true! Ghavrel - 18/06/2020 04:04:16 PM 566 Views
Thou shalt not steal. *NM* The Shrike - 15/06/2020 11:10:34 PM 255 Views
"Ye blind guides, which strain at a gnat, and swallow a camel." *NM* Ghavrel - 16/06/2020 09:19:26 AM 263 Views
"Render unto Caesar the things that are Caesar's" *NM* damookster - 16/06/2020 12:13:15 PM 234 Views
Pride goes before destruction, and a haughty spirit before a fall. *NM* The Shrike - 16/06/2020 12:15:04 PM 247 Views
"Your gold and silver is cankered; and the rust of them shall be a witness against you..." *NM* Ghavrel - 16/06/2020 10:15:41 PM 269 Views
Is a concern of mine gban007 - 08/06/2020 10:16:09 PM 555 Views
A natural experiment fionwe1987 - 08/06/2020 10:42:34 PM 520 Views
Yes, we probably will. But demonstrators wearing masks are not normal life. Ghavrel - 09/06/2020 07:10:31 AM 565 Views
I'm not sure that's a valid comparison. damookster - 09/06/2020 05:57:31 PM 534 Views
Agreed. These aren't comparable situations. fionwe1987 - 09/06/2020 06:09:27 PM 544 Views
Down South that is called Communism Mookie. Roland00 - 09/06/2020 06:32:06 PM 544 Views
Alabama is down south, right? aerocontrols - 09/06/2020 10:08:15 PM 534 Views
I was comparing it to a control situation of no state action in response to SARS-CoV-2. Ghavrel - 10/06/2020 02:09:19 AM 532 Views
We have all the same rules here in Seattle Bad Ash - 10/06/2020 07:45:59 PM 549 Views
I figured you aerocontrols - 09/06/2020 10:09:36 PM 528 Views
About your original question... fionwe1987 - 17/06/2020 09:25:38 PM 561 Views
that is encouraging damookster - 17/06/2020 09:44:10 PM 558 Views
Re: that is encouraging fionwe1987 - 17/06/2020 10:10:34 PM 504 Views
Seems indoors with strangers is more a predictor than outdoor protests. Roland00 - 27/06/2020 02:38:07 AM 615 Views
Tips, maybe? fionwe1987 - 27/06/2020 05:10:30 AM 563 Views
Perhaps Roland00 - 27/06/2020 10:19:39 PM 502 Views
A 315 city study, BLM protests did not cause a spike in COVID cases. Roland00 - 27/06/2020 10:19:05 PM 557 Views
Sigh, here is some bad news. Case Reports and a Lab study suggests COVID may cause type 1 diabetes Roland00 - 28/06/2020 06:11:45 AM 513 Views
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