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How do you figure? Fanatic-Templar Send a noteboard - 17/11/2010 05:46:37 AM
I can't help but point out that you just posted all those options in detail here


Yes? I don't understand what you're accusing me of.

Let's look at some of your other falsheoods, both the outright and those by ommision.

You've claimed that there is a tangible difference to you between my suggesting a no lynch and voting for it, but you did it here

In that comment, in response to my saying that "...Insofar as the reason to vote no lynch instead of waiting for the deadline is to avoid wasting time and shedding bored players... a situation we clearly have here, you even say that I've favored it as a mod. I do, and you know and have shown that you know, that I do. That you dislike no lynches, does not change that I consider them the more pro-game solution than double-modkill or game death by inactivity. This is no secret, we've discussed many a time that even as a DF I will take risky action designed to keep people posting even if it draws eyes on me. I place game continuity above victory in individual games, and you know this, yet you lie outright when you say that in your eyes theirs a votable difference between suggesting and casting a vote to no lynch and you lie by omission when you imply I must have purely victory motives in mind for my actions. You also spin, because you've not explained how this scummy action I took would benefit me, you line up a series of rationales, all of which have improbable logic behind them, and say if all these are true then Isaac is scum, and when I countered them, you did not counter, you accused me of obfuscation.


I assume you're referring to this?

He asks "Is it out of character for me, as townie or scum, to discuss no lynch?" when the question is "Is it out of character for me, as a townie or a scum, to vote for a no-lynch?" and the real question should be "Is it antitown for me to advocate a no-lynch?"


I still don't see the lies you speak of. What is it about it that is untrue?

Let's take another example:

He asks "Is it out of ordinary for me, as town or scum, to worry about third party kills and to seek out third parties?" because the real question would be "Is it out of the ordinary for me, as town or scum, to deliberately not even try to find mafia?" And the answer is of course yes. Look at previous games, have you even seen Isaac say something to the effect of "I don't think we should will find mafia today, nor do I think we should even try"? And yet that's what he did with that serial killer chase.


You accuse me of the very thing you are doing. Your counter question "Is it out of the ordinary for me, as town or scum, to deliberately not even try to find mafia?" twists my original question, because in your form, seeking a third party is equal to ignoring a threat, as though pursuing a lynch on DF 1 proves I'm a scummer because I didn't pursue DF 2 while hunting DF 1. You then say in previous games I didn't said something, putting it in quotes, but you say 'something like' and provide no reference to it. But you leave out that I never said any such thing yesterday, I said the scum were shapeshifters and would match their character claims, and thus wouldn't be locatable by our character claims table, but a SK might be, this truthful and logical comment you are aware is both you then lift out of context as proof of perfidy... a lie by ommision, you never challenge the actual comment, you never even reference it, maybe because in context it is not an indicator of guilt at all?

The actual quote:
All right, so anyway, I do unsurprisingly have plots and schemes afoot but at the moment most have not yet reached 'the proper time', so I will focus on one particular avenue, which in this case was sort of a 'SK gambit'

Going into this it seemed a safe bet that our bad guys are shapechangers and already have a legitimate ID and knew they did, likely as major characters. One of them might have lied about all 4, but probably not, they likely listed their 'real' fake identity. I'm betting everyone did.

Let us assume for the moment that any role powers someone has are appropriate to their character. Now let us assume we have a vig or SK, knowing Beet, he wouldn't assign this role to a character that followed the Comics Code, which amongst other things doesn't let good guys kill people pretty much ever. I haven't done a definitive scouring of characters yet, but the perosn who most stuck out was WF, he had:

skip analysis

Anyway, that's my first thoughts, focusing in on a probable SK/vig isn't exactly ideal but realistically killing off a SK (and arguably a vig) on day 1 is preferable to catching a single scummer, since it eliminates a whole NK. And yes, I know I'm not very objective about vigs but I'll remind everyone that they have a a horrible track record with us, BA was the first vig to whack a non-townie and that was after he tried to whack the town doc, by and large our SK's and scummers have a better track record of killing off rival scummers than the vigs have. But again, there are a handful of major characters who I think would be obvious vig material, The Punisher being the blatant example, but plent yof more obvious vig candidates beside Deadpool, who is practically the poster-child for insanely homicidal third party guy.

Anyway, that's my first thoughts on it.

And yeah, to save the eventual comment, this is exactly what I'd be saying if I was the Evil Skrull Leader, I'm not, a general desire to do away with SK's and cultists is a trait I possess both when town and DF.


Now, you would attempt on day 1, and later today as well, to say that it was a sign of my guilt that I'd suggest such a path, yet as I pointed out, and you never rebutted, that claim was based off an underlying assumption I would have to do it without knowing it was a scummer tell, the original accusation puts the claim to bed, as the bolded text indicates. So I accidentally dropped proof I was scummer in the very same message I outright say it could be seen that way. That makes no sense, and yet by accusing me from a set off comments in which it was impossible to miss my saying that, you once again lift something clearly out of context in a fashion that can not be an accident. "Knowingly Presenting False Evidence" is, some might say, not particularly pro-town


Again, I have no idea what you're trying to say, and even less of an idea where I'm supposed to have lied in this. It looks like you're saying "I openly admitted that my scummy behaviour was scummy, therefore I can't be scum" but that's such a ludicrous idea I have to assume I'm incorrect. But what are you saying?

Or are you suggesting that when I said that when I said "Look at previous games, have you even seen Isaac say something to the effect of "I don't think we should will find mafia today, nor do I think we should even try"?" I meant that as a reference to this comment of yours? It wasn't, it was merely a figure of speech to represent what your actions told us in English. If I'd wanted to quote you, I would have quoted you.

Let's go to your next one, in your original accusations on me that caused this avalanche:

He says "Led a lynch on an innocent townie? BlackAdder, Check." and tries to equate this with his serial killer hunt, leaving out that they are completely different - in BlackAdder's case, he was trying to catch a ninja and failed. In White Flame's case, he was not trying to find a Skrull and succeeded in not finding one. He tries to compare killing a townie by mistake to killing a townie by intent.


Again, utter word game, and real ironic when your whole point is to accuse me of doing that. In BlackAdders case, I was trying to find a scummer and failed. In WF's case, I was trying to find a scummer and failed, SK's a scummers. You ignore again the inconvenient truth that I'd already told everyone that going for a SK was not ideal but we had a decent lead and a SK is more dangeorus than a single scummer. Again, you use a flawed argument that translates as "This cop is clearly dirty and on the take because he ran past someone who was trying to steal a car while pursuing a murderer" it sounds reasonable to people only because there's a tag at the end 'Someone shot the fleeing murderer, ending the day, and he turned out to be innocent, it was not possible to go back for the car thief' and leaves out something really vital, I didn't run past someone stealing a car, I ran past when someone yelled 'He's stealing my car' and there was no sign of who 'he' was.


Again, I don't get the lie. Incidentally, you might have noticed that even though I said I found it suspicious and scummy, I did agree with the rationale behind the serial killer hunt. You might then wonder why I'm bringing it up as evidence now. You might wonder why I didn't press for it at the beginning of the Day. Except of course that it's missing the blatantly obvious. I didn't go for the lynch until you repeated your scummy behaviour. Anyone can do something that looks scummy. But when you're doing it consistently, that's when it becomes evidence. I wouldn't be able to get you lynched on either the sk hunt or the no-lynch individually, which is probably why you try disassociating them, but together they demonstrate a pattern, and that pattern reveals your motivations, and those motivations are to not get mafia killed.

And at the end, that's all there is to it. That's why you're going to hang. And I still don't know where I lied.

Next:
He asks irrelevant questions like "Is it out of ordinary for me, as town or scum, to accuse someone on day 1?" or "Is it out of ordinary for me, as town or scum, to drop a lynch I feel is not viable?" in an attempt to get people to get in an agreeable position. After all, it is perfectly accurate to say that these are not abnormal behaviours, nor are they anti-town, and he hopes that people will use them to get a good impression of him and forget what the real point was.


No supporting evidence of that claim, you just say 'irrelevant' and bypass it, but its pretty relevant and you know it. You use both the day 1 vote and the day 1 non-vote for ? as evidence against me originally, yet when I point outthat is normal, instead of ceding the point as a flaw in your original accusation, you ignore that it was part of your accusation and accuse me of obfuscation by pointing it out.


Okay, stop. Not only is that not a lie from me, it's a lie from you. It is irrelevant. The equivalent of being accused of murder and saying "I fed my cat yesterday, is that murder?" It is completely and entirely irrelevant. Nobody said you were scum because you "accused somebody on day 1". And yet you try to use that as a defence. Nobody accused you of being scum for "dropping a lynch you felt was not viable" and yet you try to use that as a defence. And so on. It's blatant misdirection, and I won't have you calling me a liar because I called you out on it.

Next:
Isaac writes in an attempt to obfuscate the issue. The facts are plain and simple: in the span of two days, Isaac has deliberately voted to protect the mafia from lynching.


In a post that is loaded with spin and obfuscation, you accuse me of doing it the whole while, then say I deliberately voted to protect the mafia. Yet your sole evidence of such a vote is that I went after a probable SK, needless to say, that's hardly anti-town, but certainly no more anti-town then everyone who voted for the lynch without pursuing other leads. That's a far more obvious scummer tell, I tell people I don't think the lynch is viable anymore on day 1 and we need to pursue other leads, I suggest some, and WF gets whacked in a few hours. You avoid all mention of that aspect of things repeatedly, that an avalanche vote off my suggestion we pursue other routes is not only bizarre, but utterly smashes the 'SK as distraction' concept.


Of course I avoid mention of that, the last thing this game needs is for people to lose focus. I did not always, however. Before you became the sole subject of attention, you will recall that I did say this after all. I imagine if you were me, you'd be calling that a lie?

Seriously, this entire post is disappointing. You can't put up a sign saying "Fanatic-Templar caught in a(n almost) lie!" and then not give a show. Barring that one bit above, this was more confusing that outraging. I think you might be panicking.
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RAFO Mafia 19: Superlative Crisis! ISSUE TWO: BLACK MAGIC- WHOA, MAN! - 03/11/2010 04:59:59 AM 2547 Views
Voting record- Isaac has been lynched - 03/11/2010 05:02:04 AM 831 Views
I see two avenues to discuss here - 03/11/2010 11:41:14 AM 769 Views
I was thinking about number 1. - 03/11/2010 10:00:57 PM 785 Views
Same, it's a promising possible lead but... - 04/11/2010 01:15:44 AM 799 Views
Re: Same, it's a promising possible lead but... - 05/11/2010 08:04:09 PM 817 Views
Regarding 2, and let me suggets a 3 - 04/11/2010 02:30:41 AM 841 Views
Maybe he did that thing where he pulled all actions to himself. - 04/11/2010 03:08:40 AM 858 Views
Hmmm - 04/11/2010 08:34:34 PM 1243 Views
Me. *NM* - 04/11/2010 08:35:09 PM 465 Views
Re: Hmmm - 05/11/2010 08:11:24 PM 901 Views
Re: Hmmm - 05/11/2010 08:33:02 PM 779 Views
I, personally, agree with Isaac so here goes. - 04/11/2010 11:33:07 PM 764 Views
O.......K.......... - 05/11/2010 11:43:14 PM 739 Views
Did Fist use his power last Night? - 06/11/2010 03:41:05 AM 776 Views
It's one of three plausible explanations for his death - 06/11/2010 04:53:19 AM 762 Views
Re: It's one of three plausible explanations for his death - 06/11/2010 05:30:00 PM 748 Views
Re: It's one of three plausible explanations for his death - 06/11/2010 07:15:11 PM 805 Views
Well. - 06/11/2010 07:40:33 PM 730 Views
LOL - 07/11/2010 03:10:03 AM 791 Views
Re: LOL - 07/11/2010 08:18:21 AM 763 Views
Nice - 07/11/2010 05:31:43 PM 774 Views
Re: It's one of three plausible explanations for his death - 07/11/2010 08:18:16 AM 854 Views
Re: It's one of three plausible explanations for his death - 07/11/2010 03:38:37 PM 803 Views
Re: It's one of three plausible explanations for his death - 07/11/2010 06:42:10 PM 839 Views
Huh, well Fox straight up told us his Mason group was a 3rd Fraction on Night 1 - 11/11/2010 12:55:50 AM 795 Views
Yeah that was humorous to watch - 11/11/2010 04:16:34 AM 832 Views
Re: It's one of three plausible explanations for his death - 07/11/2010 06:16:29 PM 850 Views
Re: It's one of three plausible explanations for his death - 07/11/2010 07:16:20 PM 793 Views
Re: It's one of three plausible explanations for his death - 07/11/2010 09:29:12 PM 869 Views
Right. One last thing then. - 08/11/2010 07:35:39 AM 840 Views
Re: Right. One last thing then. - 08/11/2010 10:24:06 AM 808 Views
I am about 95% sure that WF targeted me last Night. - 11/11/2010 01:04:34 AM 758 Views
Re: I am about 95% sure that WF targeted me last Night. - 11/11/2010 02:23:14 AM 920 Views
- 11/11/2010 02:25:58 AM 613 Views
Of course, I meant Fist. - 11/11/2010 02:30:10 AM 784 Views
Interesting. - 11/11/2010 02:25:07 AM 820 Views
It's certainly possible. - 11/11/2010 02:39:00 AM 811 Views
Now I'm curious - 11/11/2010 03:33:46 AM 845 Views
Presumably because I'm not trying to get her lynched. - 11/11/2010 03:53:54 AM 854 Views
Yeah, this basically. - 11/11/2010 04:02:47 AM 812 Views
A lot of recent games have been role-heavy. - 11/11/2010 09:12:42 PM 839 Views
I actually don't know. - 06/11/2010 11:43:33 AM 769 Views
Yeah, I'm going with that #3 there. - 04/11/2010 05:41:04 AM 846 Views
Re: Yeah, I'm going with that #3 there. - 04/11/2010 04:18:17 PM 859 Views
a scummer got caught on day one in the tower game - 04/11/2010 06:42:15 PM 827 Views
also there was that time someone said they saw a black light instead of white - 04/11/2010 07:52:41 PM 823 Views
That was Hobo in DK's crossover game. *NM* - 04/11/2010 08:16:07 PM 455 Views
You know we could just forget about that. I wouldn't complain. *NM* - 05/11/2010 08:35:03 PM 495 Views
Sorry, not likely. *NM* - 05/11/2010 09:58:36 PM 528 Views
Hypocop? *NM* - 03/11/2010 03:20:17 PM 500 Views
Sure. Isaac = Skrull. *NM* - 04/11/2010 05:42:45 AM 426 Views
? = hero *NM* - 04/11/2010 09:40:40 AM 457 Views
Bergioyn - Skrull *NM* - 04/11/2010 12:57:53 PM 443 Views
Isaac - skrull *NM* - 04/11/2010 01:05:38 PM 458 Views
Yunalesca = hero *NM* - 04/11/2010 03:26:53 PM 416 Views
Ranagrande = hero. *NM* - 04/11/2010 03:55:14 PM 561 Views
Hobo - Innocent + read this before you HC if you haven't already - 04/11/2010 08:25:26 PM 766 Views
On which to pick for oddballs - 04/11/2010 08:28:25 PM 729 Views
Darth Katie-Skrull *NM* - 04/11/2010 08:39:00 PM 494 Views
Fox - hero *NM* - 04/11/2010 08:46:07 PM 410 Views
I SPLOG'd Darth_Katie and found her not Skrull. *NM* - 05/11/2010 07:50:35 PM 476 Views
Hypocop (Table) - 04/11/2010 06:02:51 AM 749 Views
Before I forget RBIRL - 04/11/2010 04:19:20 PM 800 Views
still RBIRL - 05/11/2010 08:13:35 PM 765 Views
still here! - 06/11/2010 06:35:44 PM 705 Views
RBIRL - exams ... - 08/11/2010 12:24:06 AM 728 Views
After Tuesday I will be back in full force. *NM* - 11/11/2010 05:20:49 PM 460 Views
RBIRL *NM* - 09/11/2010 03:33:18 PM 422 Views
I'm here. - 09/11/2010 04:51:58 PM 815 Views
So help me I will spoil the entirety of ToM, people! (not just yet, though) - 10/11/2010 02:51:46 AM 723 Views
Ahhhhh!! No! - 10/11/2010 04:38:51 AM 737 Views
i'm awake *NM* - 10/11/2010 09:48:06 AM 468 Views
I'm pretty sure if you do, you'll be lynched. *NM* - 10/11/2010 09:19:43 PM 468 Views
Or worse. - 10/11/2010 10:51:52 PM 756 Views
I can't be lynched! Bwahahah *NM* - 10/11/2010 11:38:04 PM 507 Views
but lynching the mod is fun! - 11/11/2010 03:35:51 AM 764 Views
I'm still here, btw. - 11/11/2010 09:32:46 AM 764 Views
I'm not reading ToM - 12/11/2010 02:11:48 AM 759 Views
i'm not either - 12/11/2010 10:03:44 AM 735 Views
You know, you guys are free to discuss things on your own. - 12/11/2010 07:05:51 PM 704 Views
Vote: No Lynch - 13/11/2010 12:24:43 AM 824 Views
We can do that? - 13/11/2010 12:50:57 AM 741 Views
Vote: No lynch *NM* - 13/11/2010 12:51:20 AM 423 Views
Sure, I'll allow Vote: No Lynch *NM* - 13/11/2010 12:51:56 AM 407 Views
I am very much opposed to this idea - 13/11/2010 02:04:27 PM 741 Views
I do agree with you... - 13/11/2010 05:36:38 PM 719 Views
Then offer an alternative - 13/11/2010 11:10:42 PM 785 Views
Why is an inactive likely to be a townie? - 14/11/2010 04:03:35 AM 723 Views
Re: Why is an inactive likely to be a townie? - 14/11/2010 04:21:12 AM 820 Views
I had no RBIRL because my computer died. - 14/11/2010 06:52:56 AM 706 Views
Ah, I see you did unvote. Very well. I still got my eye on you. *NM* - 14/11/2010 06:55:30 AM 415 Views
LOL - I guess this is also my informal defense - 14/11/2010 08:52:56 AM 792 Views
Watch the difference between what he says and what he is accused of. - 14/11/2010 07:08:08 PM 685 Views
These are very good points. *NM* - 14/11/2010 08:35:56 PM 426 Views
Yes. Vote: Isaac *NM* - 14/11/2010 08:38:38 PM 482 Views
Yup. Unvote: No lynch. Vote Isaac *NM* - 14/11/2010 10:06:19 PM 510 Views
After this whole argument I've had with FT... - 13/11/2010 11:42:32 PM 757 Views
Re: After this whole argument I've had with FT... - 13/11/2010 11:53:56 PM 783 Views
People who vote for totally random lynches don't deserve to win - 14/11/2010 03:43:14 AM 726 Views
Re: People who vote for totally random lynches don't deserve to win - 14/11/2010 02:23:04 PM 897 Views
I'm completely on F-T's side of this debate. - 14/11/2010 03:56:32 AM 766 Views
Vote: Isaac - 13/11/2010 11:58:56 PM 843 Views
Re: Vote: Isaac - 14/11/2010 03:02:15 AM 742 Views
Re: Vote: Isaac - 14/11/2010 04:02:30 AM 819 Views
What was scummy? - 14/11/2010 04:10:12 AM 858 Views
Re: What was scummy? - 14/11/2010 05:41:44 AM 778 Views
Extrmely thin - 14/11/2010 06:05:32 AM 929 Views
You're kidding, right? - 14/11/2010 06:44:50 AM 735 Views
Actually... - 14/11/2010 06:55:02 AM 829 Views
Re: Actually... - 14/11/2010 07:44:33 AM 789 Views
I'm saying that no, it isn't quite anti-town... - 14/11/2010 04:34:59 PM 589 Views
A SK hurts both the Mafia and the Town - 14/11/2010 05:38:29 PM 763 Views
Re: Actually... - 14/11/2010 07:00:35 PM 782 Views
I must say, I'm a little suspicious of Isaac now. - 14/11/2010 07:03:46 PM 797 Views
Fine. - 14/11/2010 07:10:19 PM 789 Views
Re: Fine. - 14/11/2010 08:07:02 PM 709 Views
Forget my earlier message. Vote: Isaac - 14/11/2010 08:35:49 PM 836 Views
Vote: Isaac - 14/11/2010 10:04:53 PM 682 Views
I think he is at L-1 now. - 14/11/2010 11:02:33 PM 784 Views
Hmmm - 14/11/2010 11:05:08 PM 824 Views
Did you guys just blitz me? - 14/11/2010 11:35:58 PM 819 Views
Your not hammered yet are you? - 14/11/2010 11:46:29 PM 752 Views
I'm potentially alive on a technicality - 15/11/2010 12:02:36 AM 673 Views
Why don't you go ahead and claim then? - 15/11/2010 12:11:03 AM 762 Views
Sure - 15/11/2010 12:34:34 AM 729 Views
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm... - 15/11/2010 02:13:23 AM 838 Views
Well, let me shed a bit more light - 15/11/2010 04:22:36 AM 796 Views
Unvote: Isaac *NM* - 16/11/2010 09:26:09 PM 492 Views
Oh come one really? *NM* - 15/11/2010 02:06:56 AM 469 Views
Come on. That said come on not one....sigh... *NM* - 15/11/2010 02:07:46 AM 425 Views
Hey, I'm hanging on by my fingertips here - 15/11/2010 02:33:03 AM 695 Views
I think so. - 15/11/2010 01:25:46 AM 738 Views
Also, I must confess... - 15/11/2010 01:32:44 AM 757 Views
Re: Also, I must confess... - 15/11/2010 01:58:26 AM 884 Views
Yes, I would expect so. - 15/11/2010 02:22:06 AM 697 Views
Re: Yes, I would expect so. - 15/11/2010 02:35:49 AM 801 Views
Oh man, was that game embarrassing. - 15/11/2010 03:24:16 AM 855 Views
Yeah, not my best performance either *NM* - 15/11/2010 03:56:09 AM 403 Views
Re: I think so. - 15/11/2010 01:46:38 AM 693 Views
Eh, I guess I could. - 15/11/2010 02:24:23 AM 766 Views
I'll try to help Isaac out a bit here. - 15/11/2010 01:11:11 PM 647 Views
Thanks, and a question too - 15/11/2010 01:30:17 PM 691 Views
Answer's no. *NM* - 15/11/2010 01:42:56 PM 435 Views
All right, thanks - 15/11/2010 02:17:27 PM 839 Views
Well, I'll unvote if the third mason comes forward too. *NM* - 15/11/2010 03:30:36 PM 455 Views
I'm the third member. *NM* - 15/11/2010 07:04:24 PM 400 Views
Okay. Unvote: Isaac *NM* - 15/11/2010 09:36:19 PM 427 Views
Tangential side post - 15/11/2010 02:00:54 PM 817 Views
Jeez, when it rains, it pours - 15/11/2010 10:34:54 PM 660 Views
OK, the ruling: - 15/11/2010 11:26:42 PM 737 Views
I also unvoted a while back. - 16/11/2010 12:57:07 AM 766 Views
OK Isaac - 15/11/2010 11:14:45 PM 711 Views
Okay, first lets do something else - 16/11/2010 01:24:25 AM 790 Views
I see two thematic options - 16/11/2010 02:22:00 AM 814 Views
My Defense Posts - 16/11/2010 04:16:41 AM 729 Views
Defense A: The Fantastic Four - 16/11/2010 04:31:11 AM 752 Views
Some supporting evidence - 16/11/2010 05:29:14 AM 747 Views
Re: Some supporting evidence - 16/11/2010 11:35:31 PM 768 Views
Defense B: The Numbers Game - 16/11/2010 04:36:59 AM 757 Views
"What motive would a scummer have"? - 16/11/2010 05:56:04 PM 728 Views
Without any further questions though? - 16/11/2010 11:51:42 PM 783 Views
If you see an avalanche coming, you hop on board (NOT a metaphor). - 17/11/2010 12:12:31 AM 725 Views
Good point. - 17/11/2010 01:29:11 AM 803 Views
Re: "What motive would a scummer have"? - 17/11/2010 02:48:35 AM 778 Views
I think boredom might be a large factor as well - 17/11/2010 12:58:45 AM 754 Views
Re: I think boredom might be a large factor as well - 17/11/2010 03:16:12 AM 718 Views
I said before I have no real reason to trust him - 17/11/2010 01:13:23 PM 744 Views
Defense C: The Intro Flavor - 16/11/2010 04:41:31 AM 868 Views
Eh ... - 16/11/2010 10:00:21 PM 707 Views
Re: Eh ... - 17/11/2010 02:33:27 AM 776 Views
Yes, well when the clues are so easily misinterpreted - 17/11/2010 03:54:37 AM 753 Views
Re: Yes, well when the clues are so easily misinterpreted - 17/11/2010 04:56:51 AM 719 Views
We'll take a look at that in turn, but first... - 16/11/2010 07:01:22 AM 814 Views
Re: We'll take a look at that in turn, but first... - 16/11/2010 01:40:21 PM 710 Views
Yes, that was it. - 16/11/2010 09:05:04 PM 742 Views
Re: Yes, that was it. - 17/11/2010 02:55:58 AM 760 Views
Not at all. - 17/11/2010 03:04:50 AM 774 Views
Well, that's a borderline lie - 17/11/2010 04:29:47 AM 817 Views
How do you figure? - 17/11/2010 05:46:37 AM 722 Views
I'd say its pretty pertinent to my defense - 17/11/2010 06:49:20 AM 708 Views
Okay ??? - 17/11/2010 06:56:06 AM 693 Views
All right, fair enough. - 17/11/2010 07:19:37 AM 834 Views
Thanks for whakcing me before going to bed - 17/11/2010 07:39:58 AM 734 Views
By the way, I'd appreciate if no one had hammer till FT has a chance to reply and vice-versa - 17/11/2010 07:46:18 AM 724 Views
Yeah, I'm pretty much ready to vote for you. - 17/11/2010 06:38:50 PM 745 Views
Try this option - 17/11/2010 08:03:25 AM 712 Views
There are a lot of bizarre roles in this game. - 17/11/2010 06:35:24 PM 787 Views
Also can't help but point out - 17/11/2010 08:15:51 AM 861 Views
Yeah, this is completely expected. - 17/11/2010 06:49:03 PM 764 Views
I have evidence in favor of and yet against F-T's claim. Take it as you will. - 17/11/2010 07:18:35 PM 811 Views
Slight EBWOP - 17/11/2010 07:20:58 PM 808 Views
Re: Slight EBWOP - 17/11/2010 07:24:34 PM 707 Views
Eh? - 17/11/2010 07:30:42 PM 771 Views
Oh, I get ya - 17/11/2010 07:36:44 PM 708 Views
I did not know I had been tracked. - 17/11/2010 07:44:00 PM 741 Views
Uh, that doesn't make a lot of sense - 17/11/2010 07:22:59 PM 756 Views
That's fair. Sanity can actually be called into question now. - 17/11/2010 07:26:34 PM 731 Views
This discussion should probably extend a bit - Unvote *NM* - 17/11/2010 07:27:16 PM 515 Views
Re: That's fair. Sanity can actually be called into question now. - 17/11/2010 08:01:20 PM 799 Views
Actually that sounds a good plan - 17/11/2010 08:06:50 PM 713 Views
Glad to hear you agree with yourself - 17/11/2010 08:14:42 PM 821 Views
You've already claimed. - 17/11/2010 08:43:43 PM 826 Views
Don't want a claim, not to claim. - 17/11/2010 08:50:29 PM 726 Views
More talking about encryption than reveal - 17/11/2010 09:08:58 PM 782 Views
I don't think so. - 17/11/2010 08:09:22 PM 742 Views
Agreed. *NM* - 17/11/2010 08:52:49 PM 415 Views
All right then. - 17/11/2010 12:27:49 AM 824 Views
Vote: Isaac - 17/11/2010 12:45:26 AM 728 Views
Re: Vote: Isaac - 17/11/2010 02:05:03 AM 757 Views
Re: Vote: Isaac - 17/11/2010 03:12:21 AM 827 Views
Oh and also, just to let you all know - 17/11/2010 01:03:30 AM 736 Views
:/ Wanna mention this before I forget. Little niggling that's been bugging me. - 17/11/2010 03:03:27 AM 734 Views
Hah. I'd forgotten about that. - 17/11/2010 03:35:21 AM 780 Views
Aaand... my suspicions of you are cleared. *NM* - 17/11/2010 03:42:06 AM 505 Views
Ah yes, I noticed that as well - 17/11/2010 04:08:15 AM 730 Views
I just caught that - 17/11/2010 04:53:16 AM 844 Views
No, I don't mean Cop. - 17/11/2010 05:29:36 AM 759 Views
Re: No, I don't mean Cop. - 17/11/2010 05:34:46 AM 769 Views
Yeah, this I'm keeping for tomorrow. - 17/11/2010 05:39:56 AM 735 Views
Re: Yeah, this I'm keeping for tomorrow. - 17/11/2010 06:52:39 AM 608 Views
I trust him because of the way he's been acting. - 17/11/2010 06:30:26 PM 813 Views
Re: I trust him because of the way he's been acting. - 17/11/2010 07:09:14 PM 826 Views
Complete sidetrack. - 17/11/2010 07:28:31 PM 831 Views
Re: Complete sidetrack. - 17/11/2010 07:33:51 PM 716 Views
Ask Katie. - 17/11/2010 08:00:16 PM 810 Views
My tenuous grasp of the English language. - 17/11/2010 08:47:23 PM 720 Views
Well this has all been very interesting. - 17/11/2010 04:48:20 PM 710 Views
In the interests of honesty, now would probably be a good time to mention ... - 17/11/2010 09:22:14 PM 752 Views
What the balls? - 17/11/2010 09:52:04 PM 753 Views
My role is a hybrid ... - 17/11/2010 10:07:39 PM 673 Views
Aye. What else can Hawkeye do? - 17/11/2010 10:10:46 PM 776 Views
Re: What the balls? - 17/11/2010 10:17:00 PM 779 Views
RBIRL - 17/11/2010 10:36:13 PM 812 Views
Quick note- make sure your vote is counted - 18/11/2010 01:09:22 AM 754 Views
I unvoted. - 18/11/2010 01:39:20 AM 788 Views
I still only see one way for this day to end - 18/11/2010 02:02:03 PM 722 Views
You're right, and I'm tired of waiting. - 18/11/2010 03:11:30 PM 911 Views
Re: I still only see one way for this day to end - 18/11/2010 03:18:50 PM 693 Views
Re: I still only see one way for this day to end - 19/11/2010 03:48:52 PM 737 Views
Your accusation on ? seems a little unrealistic - 19/11/2010 06:34:54 PM 729 Views
I'd also like to point out that we know nothing about you - 18/11/2010 03:37:08 PM 704 Views
i don't know much about comics but - 18/11/2010 05:45:10 PM 756 Views
Re: i don't know much about comics but - 18/11/2010 05:49:54 PM 698 Views
They're also Marvel characters - 18/11/2010 06:30:11 PM 755 Views
LOL, duly noted - 18/11/2010 06:48:08 PM 775 Views
So what? So was Iron Man, kinda. *NM* - 18/11/2010 06:54:37 PM 440 Views
Well, many have been - 18/11/2010 07:10:00 PM 779 Views
Beast is really surprisingly un-beastly. - 18/11/2010 06:28:15 PM 793 Views
Sure - 18/11/2010 06:42:01 PM 769 Views
I'm just saying, you're jumping to conclusions. - 18/11/2010 06:50:44 PM 703 Views
I'm hardly alone in that - 18/11/2010 07:05:56 PM 753 Views
No, I think I'll leave it at that for now. - 19/11/2010 02:04:09 PM 732 Views
Hello All - 20/11/2010 12:40:13 AM 796 Views
Wow, I'm sorry to hear that - 20/11/2010 12:13:12 PM 698 Views
Yikes! - 20/11/2010 05:45:36 PM 727 Views
Here's where I stand now - 20/11/2010 12:18:36 PM 768 Views
Yeah, I pretty much agree with Fox. - 20/11/2010 12:42:01 PM 847 Views
I'll be gone this weekend. *NM* - 20/11/2010 06:14:00 PM 481 Views
I don't know what to do. - 20/11/2010 09:30:04 PM 736 Views
Here! here! - 22/11/2010 12:07:31 AM 786 Views
Alright, to hell with this. Let's test F-T's sanity. Vote: Isaac *NM* - 21/11/2010 08:29:53 PM 484 Views
Ah, the frustration vote, normally my best friend - 21/11/2010 09:58:18 PM 743 Views
OK, here's a question for beet: - 21/11/2010 10:37:08 PM 731 Views
You're not suggesting we lynch F-T instead of Isaac, are you? - 21/11/2010 11:17:19 PM 737 Views
But we do get information - 22/11/2010 12:17:20 AM 758 Views
<-- Btw, first time I got the hammer vote. My life is now complete. *NM* - 22/11/2010 12:20:53 AM 461 Views
Well, congrats *NM* - 22/11/2010 12:32:34 AM 490 Views
Since this is a first for both of us... - 22/11/2010 12:35:29 AM 735 Views
You gave us a good run. - 22/11/2010 03:45:57 AM 731 Views
Yeah, it was a good siege - 22/11/2010 04:10:01 AM 741 Views
Can you explain this LyLo again? - 21/11/2010 11:32:10 PM 832 Views
It's a reasonable possibility - 22/11/2010 12:31:00 AM 724 Views
Re: Ah, the frustration vote, normally my best friend - 21/11/2010 11:45:07 PM 857 Views
Isaac wonders how he could be lynched without scum involvement... - 22/11/2010 12:00:31 AM 703 Views
Well, his "allies" openly iclude me and Hobo - 22/11/2010 12:19:20 AM 787 Views
Isaac has been lynched! - 22/11/2010 03:10:01 AM 648 Views
*NM* - 22/11/2010 03:39:53 AM 406 Views
I can't help but feel a silver bullet would have been appropriate - 22/11/2010 04:11:13 AM 626 Views
I might just mount your head on my wall . - 22/11/2010 05:09:45 AM 819 Views
I consider myself an integral part in this group. - 22/11/2010 05:27:12 AM 811 Views
Ooh, what do I get? *NM* - 22/11/2010 06:03:07 AM 413 Views
His silver tongue *NM* - 22/11/2010 06:09:22 AM 455 Views
*NM* - 22/11/2010 06:45:27 AM 397 Views
- 22/11/2010 04:24:44 AM 709 Views
So you killed him while I was a sleep? I wanted to hammer.... - 22/11/2010 07:55:41 AM 707 Views
I may have to ignore my gut from now on. *NM* - 22/11/2010 06:39:48 PM 472 Views
Woohoo! Classes are cancelled!! - 23/11/2010 06:44:12 PM 754 Views

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