Re: Ah, the frustration vote, normally my best friend
ranagrande Send a noteboard - 21/11/2010 11:45:07 PM

You actually think my alignment being revealed either direction would prove FT's sanity? Need I remind you that back in game 6 I was a psyco-cop and got a positive hit from everyone, but on night 1 I investigated a genuine scummer and found him guilty?
Would you, seriously, put 4 investigators into a game this size, or even 2 fully sane ones? Not too mention upgunned, bulletproof, masoned, etc? Typically on day 2 when the town ends up winning its because they've figured out the main design of the game. Might I suggest before taking this further you ponder how in a game of 13 you would set up the scum if amongst numerous other roles you had included a BP watcher, a sane cop, a sane tracker, another investigator, and fist's role?
Would you, seriously, put 4 investigators into a game this size, or even 2 fully sane ones? Not too mention upgunned, bulletproof, masoned, etc? Typically on day 2 when the town ends up winning its because they've figured out the main design of the game. Might I suggest before taking this further you ponder how in a game of 13 you would set up the scum if amongst numerous other roles you had included a BP watcher, a sane cop, a sane tracker, another investigator, and fist's role?
I don't see why not. My game had 16 players and 6 of them were investigators. None of them were flawed. Some were limited, but according to DK, that applies here too.
I know you know this lynch is bogus at this point, effectively no better than random, and you've got to realize the town is probably LyLo and that even if I died scum you won't be able to trust the SPLOG. IF we are 4 scummers, about the town's only way to ensure it even gets another day to try things out is to get a scummer this time or no lynch. I can appreciate everyone's exhausted from the day but it really doens't seem like anyone is interested in the solidity of various evidence anymore, nor asking questions. Nobody's even attmepted to explain any reasons for why if I am scum this lynch might be going down the way it has, beyond a vague handwave at bussing - which really would be bizarre since I was not only a bizarre candidate for that but also seem to be fighting tooth and nail to avoid death, presumably if I were scum and my allies had decided to bus me I'd either agree with their reasons and go with it or I'd have gotten them to back off by now. Care to present any reason why this is possible?
"Effectively no better than random." Seriously? You were copped and found guilty. Your defense is that the SPLOG is broken. As proof you offer up the fact that you said the SPLOG was broken. You say that your mason allies can confirm it because you told them that the SPLOG was broken on Night 1, before you knew that you had been caught.
But isn't that exactly what you would have done in that situation anyway, being a Skrull and a mason? You've admitted that you like to plan for things; planting that kind of doubt in case you or your scummer friends were investigated is exactly the sort of thing you'd do. The SPLOG was built up in the intro to the game as being important. Having it turn out to be broken and useless would be like Chekhov's gun, and I just don't see that happening in a game based on the comic book genre. We have no reason to doubt the sanity of our cop other than what you tell us. Given the circumstances, I don't think we have any reason to trust you.
I must admit I admire your tenacity, but it's time for you to die.
RAFO Mafia 19: Superlative Crisis! ISSUE TWO: BLACK MAGIC- WHOA, MAN!
03/11/2010 04:59:59 AM
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I see two avenues to discuss here
03/11/2010 11:41:14 AM
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I was thinking about number 1.
03/11/2010 10:00:57 PM
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Regarding 2, and let me suggets a 3
04/11/2010 02:30:41 AM
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I, personally, agree with Isaac so here goes.
04/11/2010 11:33:07 PM
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O.......K..........
05/11/2010 11:43:14 PM
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Did Fist use his power last Night?
06/11/2010 03:41:05 AM
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It's one of three plausible explanations for his death
06/11/2010 04:53:19 AM
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Re: It's one of three plausible explanations for his death
06/11/2010 05:30:00 PM
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Re: It's one of three plausible explanations for his death
06/11/2010 07:15:11 PM
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Re: It's one of three plausible explanations for his death
07/11/2010 08:18:16 AM
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Re: It's one of three plausible explanations for his death
07/11/2010 03:38:37 PM
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Re: It's one of three plausible explanations for his death
07/11/2010 06:42:10 PM
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Huh, well Fox straight up told us his Mason group was a 3rd Fraction on Night 1
11/11/2010 12:55:50 AM
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Re: It's one of three plausible explanations for his death
07/11/2010 06:16:29 PM
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Re: It's one of three plausible explanations for his death
07/11/2010 07:16:20 PM
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Re: It's one of three plausible explanations for his death
07/11/2010 09:29:12 PM
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I am about 95% sure that WF targeted me last Night.
11/11/2010 01:04:34 AM
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Interesting.
11/11/2010 02:25:07 AM
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It's certainly possible.
11/11/2010 02:39:00 AM
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Now I'm curious
11/11/2010 03:33:46 AM
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Presumably because I'm not trying to get her lynched.
11/11/2010 03:53:54 AM
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Yeah, I'm going with that #3 there.
04/11/2010 05:41:04 AM
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Re: Yeah, I'm going with that #3 there.
04/11/2010 04:18:17 PM
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a scummer got caught on day one in the tower game
04/11/2010 06:42:15 PM
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also there was that time someone said they saw a black light instead of white
04/11/2010 07:52:41 PM
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That was Hobo in DK's crossover game. *NM*
04/11/2010 08:16:07 PM
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You know we could just forget about that. I wouldn't complain.
*NM*
05/11/2010 08:35:03 PM
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Hypocop? *NM*
03/11/2010 03:20:17 PM
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So help me I will spoil the entirety of ToM, people! (not just yet, though)
10/11/2010 02:51:46 AM
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I'm pretty sure if you do, you'll be lynched. *NM*
10/11/2010 09:19:43 PM
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Vote: No Lynch
13/11/2010 12:24:43 AM
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I am very much opposed to this idea
13/11/2010 02:04:27 PM
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Then offer an alternative
13/11/2010 11:10:42 PM
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Why is an inactive likely to be a townie?
14/11/2010 04:03:35 AM
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Re: Why is an inactive likely to be a townie?
14/11/2010 04:21:12 AM
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I had no RBIRL because my computer died.
14/11/2010 06:52:56 AM
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Ah, I see you did unvote. Very well. I still got my eye on you. *NM*
14/11/2010 06:55:30 AM
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LOL - I guess this is also my informal defense
14/11/2010 08:52:56 AM
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Saying it's not out-of-character to be scummy doesn't make you any less scummy.
14/11/2010 04:33:15 PM
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Watch the difference between what he says and what he is accused of.
14/11/2010 07:08:08 PM
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After this whole argument I've had with FT...
13/11/2010 11:42:32 PM
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People who vote for totally random lynches don't deserve to win
14/11/2010 03:43:14 AM
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Re: People who vote for totally random lynches don't deserve to win
14/11/2010 02:23:04 PM
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Vote: Isaac
13/11/2010 11:58:56 PM
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Re: Vote: Isaac
14/11/2010 03:02:15 AM
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Re: Vote: Isaac
14/11/2010 04:02:30 AM
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What was scummy?
14/11/2010 04:10:12 AM
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Re: What was scummy?
14/11/2010 05:41:44 AM
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Extrmely thin
14/11/2010 06:05:32 AM
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Actually...
14/11/2010 06:55:02 AM
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Re: Actually...
14/11/2010 07:44:33 AM
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Did you guys just blitz me?
14/11/2010 11:35:58 PM
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Your not hammered yet are you?
14/11/2010 11:46:29 PM
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I think I might be, can never be sure what votes are worth in a heavy role game
14/11/2010 11:50:51 PM
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I'm potentially alive on a technicality
15/11/2010 12:02:36 AM
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Why don't you go ahead and claim then?
15/11/2010 12:11:03 AM
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Sure
15/11/2010 12:34:34 AM
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Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm...
15/11/2010 02:13:23 AM
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I think so.
15/11/2010 01:25:46 AM
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Also, I must confess...
15/11/2010 01:32:44 AM
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Re: Also, I must confess...
15/11/2010 01:58:26 AM
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Yes, I would expect so.
15/11/2010 02:22:06 AM
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Re: Yes, I would expect so.
15/11/2010 02:35:49 AM
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I'm unvoting only if the defence is really foolproof, since now no-one can hammer without instantly
15/11/2010 07:18:05 AM
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EBWOP - The "only" in the title is rebundant, it was part of different title I abandoned. *NM*
15/11/2010 07:19:46 AM
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I guess the first title stands afterall I won't automatically unvote just because none should hammer
15/11/2010 08:19:00 AM
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I'll try to help Isaac out a bit here.
15/11/2010 01:11:11 PM
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Thanks, and a question too
15/11/2010 01:30:17 PM
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Well, I'll unvote if the third mason comes forward too. *NM*
15/11/2010 03:30:36 PM
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Jeez, when it rains, it pours
15/11/2010 10:34:54 PM
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OK Isaac
15/11/2010 11:14:45 PM
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My Defense Posts
16/11/2010 04:16:41 AM
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Defense A: The Fantastic Four
16/11/2010 04:31:11 AM
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Defense B: The Numbers Game
16/11/2010 04:36:59 AM
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"What motive would a scummer have"?
16/11/2010 05:56:04 PM
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Without any further questions though?
16/11/2010 11:51:42 PM
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If you see an avalanche coming, you hop on board (NOT a metaphor).
17/11/2010 12:12:31 AM
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Defense C: The Intro Flavor
16/11/2010 04:41:31 AM
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Eh ...
16/11/2010 10:00:21 PM
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Re: Eh ...
17/11/2010 02:33:27 AM
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We'll take a look at that in turn, but first...
16/11/2010 07:01:22 AM
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Re: We'll take a look at that in turn, but first...
16/11/2010 01:40:21 PM
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Yes, that was it.
16/11/2010 09:05:04 PM
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Re: Yes, that was it.
17/11/2010 02:55:58 AM
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Not at all.
17/11/2010 03:04:50 AM
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Well, that's a borderline lie
17/11/2010 04:29:47 AM
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How do you figure?
17/11/2010 05:46:37 AM
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I'd say its pretty pertinent to my defense
17/11/2010 06:49:20 AM
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All right, fair enough.
17/11/2010 07:19:37 AM
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Thanks for whakcing me before going to bed
17/11/2010 07:39:58 AM
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By the way, I'd appreciate if no one had hammer till FT has a chance to reply and vice-versa
17/11/2010 07:46:18 AM
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I have evidence in favor of and yet against F-T's claim. Take it as you will.
17/11/2010 07:18:35 PM
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Slight EBWOP
17/11/2010 07:20:58 PM
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Re: Slight EBWOP
17/11/2010 07:24:34 PM
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Uh, that doesn't make a lot of sense
17/11/2010 07:22:59 PM
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That's fair. Sanity can actually be called into question now.
17/11/2010 07:26:34 PM
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Re: That's fair. Sanity can actually be called into question now.
17/11/2010 08:01:20 PM
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Actually that sounds a good plan
17/11/2010 08:06:50 PM
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Glad to hear you agree with yourself
17/11/2010 08:14:42 PM
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:/ Wanna mention this before I forget. Little niggling that's been bugging me.
17/11/2010 03:03:27 AM
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Ah yes, I noticed that as well
17/11/2010 04:08:15 AM
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I just caught that
17/11/2010 04:53:16 AM
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No, I don't mean Cop.
17/11/2010 05:29:36 AM
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Re: No, I don't mean Cop.
17/11/2010 05:34:46 AM
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I trust him because of the way he's been acting.
17/11/2010 06:30:26 PM
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Complete sidetrack.
17/11/2010 07:28:31 PM
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Re: Complete sidetrack.
17/11/2010 07:33:51 PM
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I can't seem to find the post about that arrangement we had, incidentally.
17/11/2010 05:38:53 AM
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Re: I can't seem to find the post about that arrangement we had, incidentally.
17/11/2010 06:04:08 AM
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Re: I can't seem to find the post about that arrangement we had, incidentally.
17/11/2010 06:25:05 AM
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Re: I can't seem to find the post about that arrangement we had, incidentally.
17/11/2010 06:50:04 AM
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In the interests of honesty, now would probably be a good time to mention ...
17/11/2010 09:22:14 PM
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What the balls?
17/11/2010 09:52:04 PM
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I still only see one way for this day to end
18/11/2010 02:02:03 PM
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Re: I still only see one way for this day to end
18/11/2010 03:18:50 PM
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Its probably the blind mason loyalty thing, but I'm inclined to trust Isaac.
18/11/2010 05:16:28 PM
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Re: Its probably the blind mason loyalty thing, but I'm inclined to trust Isaac.
18/11/2010 06:00:06 PM
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I'd also like to point out that we know nothing about you
18/11/2010 03:37:08 PM
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i don't know much about comics but
18/11/2010 05:45:10 PM
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Re: i don't know much about comics but
18/11/2010 05:49:54 PM
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They're also Marvel characters
18/11/2010 06:30:11 PM
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LOL, duly noted
18/11/2010 06:48:08 PM
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Beast is really surprisingly un-beastly.
18/11/2010 06:28:15 PM
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Sure
18/11/2010 06:42:01 PM
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Alright, to hell with this. Let's test F-T's sanity. Vote: Isaac *NM*
21/11/2010 08:29:53 PM
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Ah, the frustration vote, normally my best friend
21/11/2010 09:58:18 PM
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OK, here's a question for beet:
21/11/2010 10:37:08 PM
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You're not suggesting we lynch F-T instead of Isaac, are you?
21/11/2010 11:17:19 PM
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But we do get information
22/11/2010 12:17:20 AM
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<-- Btw, first time I got the hammer vote. My life is now complete. *NM*
22/11/2010 12:20:53 AM
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Well, congrats
*NM*
22/11/2010 12:32:34 AM
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Since this is a first for both of us...
22/11/2010 12:35:29 AM
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When someone dies, you find out their role. "Psycho Cop" is a distinct role.
21/11/2010 11:22:50 PM
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Re: Ah, the frustration vote, normally my best friend
21/11/2010 11:45:07 PM
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Isaac wonders how he could be lynched without scum involvement...
22/11/2010 12:00:31 AM
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Re: Isaac wonders how he could be lynched without scum involvement...
22/11/2010 12:21:01 AM
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Isaac has been lynched!
22/11/2010 03:10:01 AM
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I can't help but feel a silver bullet would have been appropriate
22/11/2010 04:11:13 AM
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I find that astounding, considering the level of suspicion generally laid upon you *NM*
22/11/2010 04:16:04 AM
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I might just mount your head on my wall
.
22/11/2010 05:09:45 AM
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I consider myself an integral part in this group.
22/11/2010 05:27:12 AM
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